R5 FPS whats the truth?

[Pixel boy]

In the spec sheet it says "upto 12fps" Tony Northrup says he only got 5fps with his 500mm lens.

PLEASE READ: I misspoke and said the R5 has 10 FPS with the mechanical shutter. The specs show it has 12; that's a theoretical maximum when it's not tracking autofocus. In our testing with the RF 70-200 tracking continuous AF for sports, it captured 8 FPS max. With our 500mm f/4 EF lens tracking AF, it captured 5 FPS

Anyone confirm this?

Cheers

 

[BirdShooter7]

That’s disappointing if true. I’m guessing tracking AF means the eye-tracking AF? I see people referring to tracking and servo which I always though were the same thing but I am guessing what is being talked about is AI-Servo with eye tracking turned on? I’m getting 10FPS with my 90d and 7d mk2. You don’t get the eye tracking obviously but going from 10 down to 5fps for all that extra money doesn’t feel like much of an upgrade. Hopefully others can share their experience with adapted lenses on the R5.

 

[CanonshooterRF212]

That’s disappointing if true. I’m guessing tracking AF means the eye-tracking AF? I see people referring to tracking and servo which I always though were the same thing but I am guessing what is being talked about is AI-Servo with eye tracking turned on? I’m getting 10FPS with my 90d and 7d mk2. You don’t get the eye tracking obviously but going from 10 down to 5fps for all that extra money doesn’t feel like much of an upgrade. Hopefully others can share their experience with adapted lenses on the R5.

 

[Willow w]

In the spec sheet it says "upto 12fps" Tony Northrup says he only got 5fps with his 500mm lens.

PLEASE READ: I misspoke and said the R5 has 10 FPS with the mechanical shutter. The specs show it has 12; that's a theoretical maximum when it's not tracking autofocus. In our testing with the RF 70-200 tracking continuous AF for sports, it captured 8 FPS max. With our 500mm f/4 EF lens tracking AF, it captured 5 FPS

Anyone confirm this?

Cheers

I've done several tests shooing timers with AF tracking on, an EF 70-300 non-L, and battery half full and its always been 10 fps. I don't know if I am using the best settings though.

 

[BirdShooter7]

That’s disappointing if true. I’m guessing tracking AF means the eye-tracking AF? I see people referring to tracking and servo which I always though were the same thing but I am guessing what is being talked about is AI-Servo with eye tracking turned on? I’m getting 10FPS with my 90d and 7d mk2. You don’t get the eye tracking obviously but going from 10 down to 5fps for all that extra money doesn’t feel like much of an upgrade. Hopefully others can share their experience with adapted lenses on the R5.

Seems like he didn’t read the manual. As the battery drains, and different settings are used the FPS drops.

Yes that’s another big concern. I’m really wondering how fast the FPS drops with battery depletion. The R5 user manual doesn’t paint a very pretty picture, especially when it comes to the LPE6N’s, God forbid the LPE6’s.

 

[RH McCaslan]

In the spec sheet it says "upto 12fps" Tony Northrup says he only got 5fps with his 500mm lens.

PLEASE READ: I misspoke and said the R5 has 10 FPS with the mechanical shutter. The specs show it has 12; that's a theoretical maximum when it's not tracking autofocus. In our testing with the RF 70-200 tracking continuous AF for sports, it captured 8 FPS max. With our 500mm f/4 EF lens tracking AF, it captured 5 FPS

Anyone confirm this?

Cheers

Using the 800mm f/11, I'm getting 12fps mechanical and 20 fps electronic. I'm shooting raw plus highest-quality jpg.

It does slow down as the battery drains, but for me, that was after about 1200-1500 shots.

Over 3000 shots with one battery and it's still showing about 1/3 power

 

[BirdShooter7]

In the spec sheet it says "upto 12fps" Tony Northrup says he only got 5fps with his 500mm lens.

PLEASE READ: I misspoke and said the R5 has 10 FPS with the mechanical shutter. The specs show it has 12; that's a theoretical maximum when it's not tracking autofocus. In our testing with the RF 70-200 tracking continuous AF for sports, it captured 8 FPS max. With our 500mm f/4 EF lens tracking AF, it captured 5 FPS

Anyone confirm this?

Cheers

Using the 800mm f/11, I'm getting 12fps mechanical and 20 fps electronic. I'm shooting raw plus highest-quality jpg.

It does slow down as the battery drains, but for me, that was after about 1200-1500 shots.

Over 3000 shots with one battery and it's still showing about 1/3 power

Thanks, that’s encouraging

 

[Zeee]

Since he is a Sony fan and could not even get the exposure right I have some questions.

These are a few from memory

Did he actually have it set to H+

Did he shoot at 1/1000 which is the minimum required

Was the battery properly charged

FPS may vary depending in subject and lens. They used a 20 year old lens with a 2X

Did he have the anti-flicker on

Did he have it on Dual Pixel RAW

 

[BirdShooter7]

Since he is a Sony fan and could not even get the exposure right I have some questions.

These are a few from memory

Did he actually have it set to H+

Did he shoot at 1/1000 which is the minimum required

Was the battery properly charged

FPS may vary depending in subject and lens. They used a 20 year old lens with a 2X

Did he have the anti-flicker on

Did he have it on Dual Pixel RAW

 

[Bhotoz]

That’s disappointing if true. I’m guessing tracking AF means the eye-tracking AF? I see people referring to tracking and servo which I always though were the same thing but I am guessing what is being talked about is AI-Servo with eye tracking turned on? I’m getting 10FPS with my 90d and 7d mk2. You don’t get the eye tracking obviously but going from 10 down to 5fps for all that extra money doesn’t feel like much of an upgrade. Hopefully others can share their experience with adapted lenses on the R5.

 

[BirdShooter7]

That’s disappointing if true. I’m guessing tracking AF means the eye-tracking AF? I see people referring to tracking and servo which I always though were the same thing but I am guessing what is being talked about is AI-Servo with eye tracking turned on? I’m getting 10FPS with my 90d and 7d mk2. You don’t get the eye tracking obviously but going from 10 down to 5fps for all that extra money doesn’t feel like much of an upgrade. Hopefully others can share their experience with adapted lenses on the R5.

Could it be the old lens? My 300mm f4L IS gives me less fps than 400mm 5.6L in 7d2. Don't remember how it was with R.

As I said, I use that same model lens on my cameras and have no problem getting 10FPS right to the end of the battery life.

 

[Jonathan Thill]

One thing I have noticed with my R5 is off brand batteries do not unlock the full +H shooting mode. The +H will be flashing on the screen, when the full speed is unlocked you will have a Green +H on screen.

The tracking and shutter speed are in another league compared to my R.

 

[Zeee]

Since he is a Sony fan and could not even get the exposure right I have some questions.

These are a few from memory

Did he actually have it set to H+

Did he shoot at 1/1000 which is the minimum required

Was the battery properly charged

FPS may vary depending in subject and lens. They used a 20 year old lens with a 2X

Did he have the anti-flicker on

Did he have it on Dual Pixel RAW

Do you have an R5? Maybe you can try some of this out and let those of us who are waiting to get ours still know what you find.

No I don't but hopefully in two weeks. I have know this for years because all the manuals say this. Even iTR can slow it down. I'm not sure if iTR is still in play with the R5&6. I skimmed the manual looking for what key changes are important to me and I don't recall seeing it.

There are tons of reports coming in without Sony Northrup's issues. Time to ignore him and listen to people who know what are doing birding with Canon cameras.

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I feel even more confident that soon things will have a wonderful conclusion

 

[Colin46]

In the spec sheet it says "upto 12fps" Tony Northrup says he only got 5fps with his 500mm lens.

PLEASE READ: I misspoke and said the R5 has 10 FPS with the mechanical shutter. The specs show it has 12; that's a theoretical maximum when it's not tracking autofocus. In our testing with the RF 70-200 tracking continuous AF for sports, it captured 8 FPS max. With our 500mm f/4 EF lens tracking AF, it captured 5 FPS

Anyone confirm this?

Cheers

Northrup was using a 20 year old mk1 500mm lens with a 2x tc.

my 500mm mk2 with the 2x mk3 tc gets the full 12fps and 20 fps providing the shutter speed is fast enough but that’s the same with all cameras.

 

[Zeee]

Since he is a Sony fan and could not even get the exposure right I have some questions.

These are a few from memory

Did he actually have it set to H+

Did he shoot at 1/1000 which is the minimum required

Was the battery properly charged

FPS may vary depending in subject and lens. They used a 20 year old lens with a 2X

Did he have the anti-flicker on

Did he have it on Dual Pixel RAW

Do you have an R5? Maybe you can try some of this out and let those of us who are waiting to get ours still know what you find.

No I don't but hopefully in two weeks. I have know this for years because all the manuals say this. Even iTR can slow it down. I'm not sure if iTR is still in play with the R5&6. I skimmed the manual looking for what key changes are important to me and I don't recall seeing it.

There are tons of reports coming in without Sony Northrup's issues. Time to ignore him and listen to people who know what are doing birding with Canon cameras.

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Northrup couldn't even get the exposure right. I've never trusted that couple. They are payed by youtube. The more drama the more cash rolls in.

 

[Zeee]

In the spec sheet it says "upto 12fps" Tony Northrup says he only got 5fps with his 500mm lens.

PLEASE READ: I misspoke and said the R5 has 10 FPS with the mechanical shutter. The specs show it has 12; that's a theoretical maximum when it's not tracking autofocus. In our testing with the RF 70-200 tracking continuous AF for sports, it captured 8 FPS max. With our 500mm f/4 EF lens tracking AF, it captured 5 FPS

Anyone confirm this?

Cheers

Northrup was using a 20 year old mk1 500mm lens with a 2x tc.

my 500mm mk2 with the 2x mk3 tc gets the full 12fps and 20 fps providing the shutter speed is fast enough but that’s the same with all cameras.

Couldn't even get the exposure right. They both have no clue of how to bird with Canon cameras.

 

[Tazz93]

Canon mentioned battery life, focus acquisition and various other understandable facets can slow the shooting down to 4 fps. And yes, using a 500mm and a 2x TC to track a darting bird at 300+ feet would likely fall into that category. Please understand those two don't understand what they are doing, and sometimes give out terrible advice.

Some of the things from Canon's limitations for 12fps:

• Good temps are needed - 73 (seems limited)
• At least 60% battery (but doesn't completely stop the camera from fast shooting)
• Bad Batteries will cause problems (weak recharge performance)
• Wifi connections will speed it down
• Flicker reduction may slow it dow
• Shooting wide open is need for good light for AF/AE
• Obviously a good shutter speed

Anything other than a green H+ logo in the EVF will slow the burst speed down.

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[Pixel boy]

Great that we have had positive responses from actual users, thanks guys for that.

Mine should have been delivered today but its got delayed by Parcelforce until tomorrow.

Cheers again

 

[tifa3]

Sony Northrup did their testing wrong. I have used mechanical shutter 12fps on R5 and R6 tracking subjects and there is no such major lag or blackout. There is a slight stutter but it’s worlds better than the R. Don’t let their inaccurate and poor testing fool you. These cameras are incredible fast in terms of processing power with the Digic X.

 

[BirdShooter7]

One thing I have noticed with my R5 is off brand batteries do not unlock the full +H shooting mode. The +H will be flashing on the screen, when the full speed is unlocked you will have a Green +H on screen.

The tracking and shutter speed are in another league compared to my R.

Thanks for the information. I haven’t had good luck with 3rd party batteries so all of mine are Canon.