Can shut the exposure off for flowers or other bright ly coloured objects?

[Nobot]

Is there way to shut the exposure off from flowers, red cars, or red painted mailbox. I'm getting them blown out always, especially the red ones, which are many in India in bloom now.

But to check every time is very time consuming. I will not dial a lower exposure every time!

Suggestions from the member here, thanks?

 

[Chato]

Is there way to shut the exposure off from flowers, red cars, or red painted mailbox. I'm getting them blown out always, especially the red ones, which are many in India in bloom now.

But to check every time is very time consuming. I will not dial a lower exposure every time!

Suggestions from the member here, thanks?

If your image processing program allows desaturating specific color channels, then it's a piece of cake to get rid of a blown color highlight, assuming the image is otherwise properly exposed.

 

[D Cox]

How does your camera do Exposure Compensation ? What metering mode do you use most ?

It shouldn't take more than a second to reduce exposure by about a stop or two. Shoot raw to make it easier to adjust the brightness if you have gone too far. It's always better to underexpose than to overexpose (but of course the perfect exposure is best).

 

[D Cox]

Is there way to shut the exposure off from flowers, red cars, or red painted mailbox. I'm getting them blown out always, especially the red ones, which are many in India in bloom now.

But to check every time is very time consuming. I will not dial a lower exposure every time!

Suggestions from the member here, thanks?

If your image processing program allows desaturating specific color channels, then it's a piece of cake to get rid of a blown color highlight, assuming the image is otherwise properly exposed.

The problem is that you can easily lose texture and detail in red petals, so just adjusting the red saturation doesn't necessarily help.

 

[Chato]

How does your camera do Exposure Compensation ? What metering mode do you use most ?

It shouldn't take more than a second to reduce exposure by about a stop or two. Shoot raw to make it easier to adjust the brightness if you have gone too far. It's always better to underexpose than to overexpose (but of course the perfect exposure is best).

I believe he's referring Not to an image which is over exposed, but a specific color being over saturated. A fault which to one extent or another most digital cameras share. My solution is simply to lower the saturation of the specific color, as in the examples below.

 

[Nobot]

Is there way to shut the exposure off from flowers, red cars, or red painted mailbox. I'm getting them blown out always, especially the red ones, which are many in India in bloom now.

But to check every time is very time consuming. I will not dial a lower exposure every time!

Suggestions from the member here, thanks?

If your image processing program allows desaturating specific color channels, then it's a piece of cake to get rid of a blown color highlight, assuming the image is otherwise properly exposed.

I have tried that sometimes, but I find there can be sometimes no details present. It is very clearly an inaccurate shot then as the eyes get drawn to the unnaturalness.

For example, the flowers have ups and downs, not a flat areas without texture.

Why can't it be smart enough to notice when the problem is beginning to happen and shut off the exposure? Or is there a setting already there I forget to use?

 

[Nobot]

How does your camera do Exposure Compensation ? What metering mode do you use most ?

It shouldn't take more than a second to reduce exposure by about a stop or two. Shoot raw to make it easier to adjust the brightness if you have gone too far. It's always better to underexpose than to overexpose (but of course the perfect exposure is best).

I am using the default mode, where I read it is the smartest--Matrix. There is a big reason, when I opened the manual, that I don't use spot meter, because that is very inaccurate most of the time.

If only for the brightly colored, especially red, objects, I have to keep switching, it will be very impossible to remember, let alone tiring.

 

[Tuloom]

Is there way to shut the exposure off from flowers, red cars, or red painted mailbox. I'm getting them blown out always, especially the red ones, which are many in India in bloom now.

But to check every time is very time consuming. I will not dial a lower exposure every time!

Suggestions from the member here, thanks?

What camera are you using?

Use the histogram.

 

[photonut2008]

How does your camera do Exposure Compensation ? What metering mode do you use most ?

It shouldn't take more than a second to reduce exposure by about a stop or two. Shoot raw to make it easier to adjust the brightness if you have gone too far. It's always better to underexpose than to overexpose (but of course the perfect exposure is best).

I believe he's referring Not to an image which is over exposed, but a specific color being over saturated. A fault which to one extent or another most digital cameras share.

The sensors generally have no problem recording the data, so the problem isn't with the hardware but is usually with the output gamut and the color profile.

 

[john Clinch]

Is there way to shut the exposure off from flowers, red cars, or red painted mailbox. I'm getting them blown out always, especially the red ones, which are many in India in bloom now.

But to check every time is very time consuming. I will not dial a lower exposure every time!

Suggestions from the member here, thanks?

If your image processing program allows desaturating specific color channels, then it's a piece of cake to get rid of a blown color highlight, assuming the image is otherwise properly exposed.

But with the obvious problem that the bright colour on the scene is no longer bright?

 

[john Clinch]

How does your camera do Exposure Compensation ? What metering mode do you use most ?

It shouldn't take more than a second to reduce exposure by about a stop or two. Shoot raw to make it easier to adjust the brightness if you have gone too far. It's always better to underexpose than to overexpose (but of course the perfect exposure is best).

I believe he's referring Not to an image which is over exposed, but a specific color being over saturated. A fault which to one extent or another most digital cameras share. My solution is simply to lower the saturation of the specific color, as in the examples below.

Now I've never seen these flowers and I don't know you intentions. But it's not obvious to me that the flowers now look better

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[Chato]

How does your camera do Exposure Compensation ? What metering mode do you use most ?

It shouldn't take more than a second to reduce exposure by about a stop or two. Shoot raw to make it easier to adjust the brightness if you have gone too far. It's always better to underexpose than to overexpose (but of course the perfect exposure is best).

I believe he's referring Not to an image which is over exposed, but a specific color being over saturated. A fault which to one extent or another most digital cameras share.

The sensors generally have no problem recording the data, so the problem isn't with the hardware but is usually with the output gamut and the color profile.

If I shoot bright red with my Sigma, the reds are always over saturated. Same problems with my Nikon's if not to the same degree. I can of course alter the scene mode in the cameras but then I would be losing color depth for the rest of the image. I find it simpler to just desaturate the one color channel in PP.

 

[BBbuilder467]

Is there way to shut the exposure off from flowers, red cars, or red painted mailbox. I'm getting them blown out always, especially the red ones, which are many in India in bloom now.

But to check every time is very time consuming. I will not dial a lower exposure every time!

Suggestions from the member here, thanks?

Using AE lock might help a little with back to back shots of flowers. The camera wouldn't re-meter at every half-press.

 

[Chato]

Is there way to shut the exposure off from flowers, red cars, or red painted mailbox. I'm getting them blown out always, especially the red ones, which are many in India in bloom now.

But to check every time is very time consuming. I will not dial a lower exposure every time!

Suggestions from the member here, thanks?

If your image processing program allows desaturating specific color channels, then it's a piece of cake to get rid of a blown color highlight, assuming the image is otherwise properly exposed.

But with the obvious problem that the bright colour on the scene is no longer bright?

I posted an example in one of my posts. Is it objectionable dim?

 

[Nobot]

Is there way to shut the exposure off from flowers, red cars, or red painted mailbox. I'm getting them blown out always, especially the red ones, which are many in India in bloom now.

But to check every time is very time consuming. I will not dial a lower exposure every time!

Suggestions from the member here, thanks?

What camera are you using?

Use the histogram.

Just a theory, wondering if anybody thought this before: could the infrared rays be flooding in and affecting the reds?

This is RX100, by the way.

From searching, it seems others have this problem too. It's mostly always the reds.

Actually, nevermind, as I writing this, I just found if the flower is blue, that will blowed out too: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4444065

I will dial the negative exposure I guess.

Thaks for the help everyone.

 

[Chato]

Actually, nevermind, as I writing this, I just found if the flower is blue, that will blowed out too: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4444065

I will dial the negative exposure I guess.

Thaks for the help everyone.

Never had a blow out problem with blue with ANY of the digital cameras I've used. What does happen is that sometimes "blue" is captured as violet or even purple...

 

[photonut2008]

How does your camera do Exposure Compensation ? What metering mode do you use most ?

It shouldn't take more than a second to reduce exposure by about a stop or two. Shoot raw to make it easier to adjust the brightness if you have gone too far. It's always better to underexpose than to overexpose (but of course the perfect exposure is best).

I believe he's referring Not to an image which is over exposed, but a specific color being over saturated. A fault which to one extent or another most digital cameras share.

The sensors generally have no problem recording the data, so the problem isn't with the hardware but is usually with the output gamut and the color profile.

If I shoot bright red with my Sigma, the reds are always over saturated. Same problems with my Nikon's if not to the same degree. I can of course alter the scene mode in the cameras but then I would be losing color depth for the rest of the image. I find it simpler to just desaturate the one color channel in PP.

Seems to me that loses more texture and detail than using the right profile.

Here's a test I did when I got my D300 nearly twelve years ago:

Over the years I have not had problems with the red channel on my Nikon cameras:

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[Chaplain Mark]

I don't claim to understand color "science" at all, but I too have found it difficult to capture frames of red flowers without blowing out the reds.

It seems as though the camera is extremely sensitive to the reds, so it's not easy to retain detail in the reds while also properly exposing the other colors.

I work around this by under-exposing the entire frame, and raising exposure, contrast and microcontrast in post, along with lowering the black point.

This seems to do a fairly good job of restoring balanced detail and brightness to the reds in the frame.

 

[fferreres]

Is there way to shut the exposure off from flowers, red cars, or red painted mailbox. I'm getting them blown out always, especially the red ones, which are many in India in bloom now.

But to check every time is very time consuming. I will not dial a lower exposure every time!

Suggestions from the member here, thanks?

Which camera? I am specialist in "F_______ red becoming clipped or blown out". Here's what I learned in my journey to extremely red subjects:

1-A BIG part of your problem is likely your monitor. Yes, what you see there blown out just is in many cases, your monitor inability do display it. SO you see, it is clipped and shows a horrible red patch, all blotchy. You photo is ruined. Guess what? In 99% of cases it isn't. It's your monitor. As you try to recover or fix it, you make things worst (too dark, etc.)

2-The second is the color space. What can be seen, even if you captured the perfect most redish cherry in the world, it will not be able to be rendered as redish. Imagine you have this perfect redish Cherry, it's so saturated, so beautiful. Now look at this chart:

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Anything outside the sRGB triangle...suppose it's an important part of the scene...how will these be rendered? Well, it may be clipped to the redish that the color space can show. Again, this will be blotchy. Some processing would re-scale this, so may just clip at the redish red.

3-All is affected also by how your computer manages color. The best idea if you don't have calibrated monitor at all, may be to trust the JPG colors. They are usually highly optimized. Or if you use raw, what you see may be shifted in important ways, showing red things pale, or more redish, or dark things more light, or dark more pale, or green more blue, and so on.

So...the second most important things after the one I mentioned (which was...it likely did NOT clip...it's just your equipment inability to see it and chances you introduce may hamper it further) is that underexposing helps you to see the red, but also bring about a lot of noise and lack of detail in darker areas of the photo. It's usually best to properly expose. So if you, let's say, underexpose to -0.5EV, that's rather ok. The best is to use spot metering and meter based on the illumination of the subject, if that's the main concern, and try not to further fiddle so much, at least not just due to the red appearing crushed.

Here's my recommendation:

1) Figure out and post a photo that you think was correctly exposed but clipped reds. Show it here, in source file. As people if they see the reds crushed. Your first step is to figure out if it's the photo itself that clips, or if it's YOU that can't display it.

2) Try to calibrate monitor. Try to get a wider gamut display (eg. almost any good cell phone will have wide gamut, high contrast and very well calibrated, you can use it to proof colors).

3) If you can, try to get a wide gamut display.

All in all, my post could be good news. You photos clipping may actually be superb, and not just ok, and much less clipped.

 

[fferreres]

How does your camera do Exposure Compensation ? What metering mode do you use most ?

It shouldn't take more than a second to reduce exposure by about a stop or two. Shoot raw to make it easier to adjust the brightness if you have gone too far. It's always better to underexpose than to overexpose (but of course the perfect exposure is best).

I believe he's referring Not to an image which is over exposed, but a specific color being over saturated. A fault which to one extent or another most digital cameras share. My solution is simply to lower the saturation of the specific color, as in the examples below.

Now I've never seen these flowers and I don't know you intentions. But it's not obvious to me that the flowers now look better

They look a completely different color. Which means the colors may now be all different than the real scene. One thing to find out through curves in the original file is if the red are clipped (overexposed) or if source gamut is too wide, or if the monitor is clipping. This is simple to find out posting a RAW file.