No more PS versions for me

[DavidP #28649]

Trust me, you'll be able to activate it.

I have a big deal for you...I have a dedicated Photoshop system
that I built myself...it does not have a modem nor a NIC card...How
the heck am I supposed to install that machine...I cannot activae
on the phone or internet and PC does not have a MAC address, which
is what most software companies use to identify a PC...kinda like a
fingerprint...There is absolutely no SN# or any type of numbers to
distinguish my PC from any other one...

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[Bret Spencer]

Better get used to it. Before long I think almost all software companies will be doing this.

Besides, the federal copyright laws are pretty specific about only installing it on one computer per license. Only allowing a "copy" for archival purposes. So, the fact that they are letting you install on two physical machines is actually more than they legally need to provide.

It will probably take a day for some 12 year old in China to figure out a way to break it anyways. That's how it usually works.

They can keep their Microsoftish activation and the PITA that it
causes for me. I'll spend my money somewhere else.

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[Lecter]

"Evaluation" copies are not difficult to find here.. .lol

I will get the new one. Capture One has a Activation Process, it's easy.

Anyway the ugby World Cup starts soon and that will calm us down....

NOT!

I have no problem with vendors protecting their IP. I live in a
region where you can buy PS7 for about $6 (it may or may not work
of course) which is why Adobe has to do this sort of thing.

Cheers

They can keep their Microsoftish activation and the PITA that it
causes for me. I'll spend my money somewhere else.

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[Nill Toulme]

Adobe's FAQ on activation says:

"Q: What usage of the product does activation allow?

"A: Activation allows for everything you are
allowed to do under the Adobe Product
License Agreement. The process allows minor
hardware configuration changes without
requiring reactivation and is tailored to
customers' usage and habits."

The PS 7.0 license agreement says:

"2.4. Portable Computer Use. The primary
user of the Computer on which the Software
is installed may also make a second copy for
his or her exclusive use on a portable Computer
provided the Software on the portable
Computer is not being used at the same time
the Software on the primary computer is being
used."

Anybody know how this will work with activation?

Nill
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[Greg M]

Sorry, for the few minutes it will take to activate, I'm going to
go for it.

The first time. Go to activate it on a new machine and it will take a phone call. Who knows how long that will take.

I have no problem with vendors protecting their IP. I live in a
region where you can buy PS7 for about $6 (it may or may not work
of course) which is why Adobe has to do this sort of thing.

I also understand that is a problem but they should go after them. This activation cr@p is a PITA for legal users. It's a company that is looking for an easy way to deal with thiefs by intruding on our privicy, and yes it is. They require that you let them gather information from your home to verify who is using the software and if that information changes then you have to call them to ask for permission to continue to use it. These big companies are getting out of hand. They should go after the thiefs and leave the legal users alone. What they are doing is calling all of us thiefs unless we let them check up on us.

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[Greg M]

I already have my preorder in and on file. Can't wait to go
through the activation process

I'll register but not activate. When are you going to draw the line? It won't stop here. It will get more and more intrusive and you can take that to the bank!

What's the big deal about activating software? They spend the
hundreds of millions (US) to develop the software, so what's so

Bahahaha hundred's of millions to come up with PS 8????? Please.

unreasonable about an activation process? You do lock your
motorcycle, don't you and you'd get really, really ticked if
someone swiped it wouldn't you?

Just an observations

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[Guy Rehorst]

Greg, unless I missed something, the only reason you would have to call Adobe would be if your PC doesn't have an internet connection. If it is like most software activation schemes the average user will simply click an "activate online" button and the whole horrid event will be over in 10 seconds hopfully leaving the user unscathed.

Guy

Sorry, for the few minutes it will take to activate, I'm going to
go for it.

The first time. Go to activate it on a new machine and it will
take a phone call. Who knows how long that will take.

I have no problem with vendors protecting their IP. I live in a
region where you can buy PS7 for about $6 (it may or may not work
of course) which is why Adobe has to do this sort of thing.

I also understand that is a problem but they should go after them.
This activation cr@p is a PITA for legal users. It's a company
that is looking for an easy way to deal with thiefs by intruding on
our privicy, and yes it is. They require that you let them gather
information from your home to verify who is using the software and
if that information changes then you have to call them to ask for
permission to continue to use it. These big companies are getting
out of hand. They should go after the thiefs and leave the legal
users alone. What they are doing is calling all of us thiefs
unless we let them check up on us.

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http://dslr.mocanu.com

 

[Ger Bee]

.... so lapdogs will have to also, won't they?

A precedent has been set and everyone is apparently just following, as usual, so laptop use will have to be accepted as well.

 

[DavidP #28649]

If your laptop has an internet connection, it'll activate just like your desktop activation does.

If not, you'll have to call. It will almost certainly be an automated response system. Just like when I put XP on my machine before I had hooked up internet access.

In all likeilhood, if you install it several times over the next several months, it'll go just as smoothly.

But if dozens of installs are being done over a broad geographic area in a short period of time, red flags will go up.

Adobe's FAQ on activation says:

"Q: What usage of the product does activation allow?

"A: Activation allows for everything you are
allowed to do under the Adobe Product
License Agreement. The process allows minor
hardware configuration changes without
requiring reactivation and is tailored to
customers' usage and habits."

The PS 7.0 license agreement says:

"2.4. Portable Computer Use. The primary
user of the Computer on which the Software
is installed may also make a second copy for
his or her exclusive use on a portable Computer
provided the Software on the portable
Computer is not being used at the same time
the Software on the primary computer is being
used."

Anybody know how this will work with activation?

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[Greg M]

Tell me where to respond in kind!

http://www.adobe.com/activation/feedback.html

Ciao
Stefan

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[Stefan Schott]

user
will simply click an "activate online" button and the whole horrid
event will be over in 10 seconds hopfully leaving the user
unscathed.

Yeah, like we know what kind of information it being transmitted....

Ciao
Stefan

 

[Stefan Schott]

Better get used to it. Before long I think almost all software
companies will be doing this.

Only if we support them by buying this kind of cr@p.

Besides, the federal copyright laws are pretty specific about only
installing it on one computer per license.

Yeah, and they are wrong. Software enjoys an undue level of legal protection imho.

It will probably take a day for some 12 year old in China to figure
out a way to break it anyways

Serves them right.

Greetings
Stefan

 

[Greg M]

It will only get more intrusive. At what point will you say NO MORE?

It's not. They have no right to force this upon us. It's stupid.
It's futile. It's annoying. It's troublesome, complicated and
time-consuming. There are huge privacy issues involved. I will not
subscibe to it.

They have the right to do it and you have the right not to buy it.
I haven't read about the new procedure but I don't expect I will
have a problem with it. It would have to be pretty draconian for
me to want to miss out on the new features.

Rick

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[Greg M]

On your first computer but it won't be so easy if you upgrade or change computers. Then you will have to call.

Guy

Sorry, for the few minutes it will take to activate, I'm going to
go for it.

The first time. Go to activate it on a new machine and it will
take a phone call. Who knows how long that will take.

I have no problem with vendors protecting their IP. I live in a
region where you can buy PS7 for about $6 (it may or may not work
of course) which is why Adobe has to do this sort of thing.

I also understand that is a problem but they should go after them.
This activation cr@p is a PITA for legal users. It's a company
that is looking for an easy way to deal with thiefs by intruding on
our privicy, and yes it is. They require that you let them gather
information from your home to verify who is using the software and
if that information changes then you have to call them to ask for
permission to continue to use it. These big companies are getting
out of hand. They should go after the thiefs and leave the legal
users alone. What they are doing is calling all of us thiefs
unless we let them check up on us.

--
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http://www.mocanu.com/gallery/index.php
http://dslr.mocanu.com

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[Thomas Gardner]

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the whole "phone-home"
activation...what prevents someone from using that activation code
on several computers...

You see, my PC does not have a MAC address, which is what most
software companies use to identify a PC...kinda like a
fingerprint...There is absolutely no SN# or any type of numbers to
distinguish my PC from any other one...

I have no idea how they set their security codes up but when I had a code problem with a Corel Photo-Paint 11 access code, I called up and there was no problem but they didn't have a phone activation process.

I just know that Adobe's security people have thought this one through. Why? They ain't the biggest and badist because they're stupid. I'm sure they're on top of this one way or another. On the other hand, maybe they missed this one

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[Thomas Gardner]

You do lock your
motorcycle, don't you and you'd get really, really ticked if
someone swiped it wouldn't you?

If I had just paid for my motorbike and wanted to drive away and
the thing wouldn't start upon inserting the key and instead would
have displayed a message in the speedo-display "activation
required" I would have turned around and ripped the dealer's head
off right on the spot.

And when it cames time to register the beastie

That is funny though. I'm sorry, you must enter an activation code before you may drive the vehicle on the road. Press your thumb print on the red light to the left of the.......

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[Rick Boden]

It will only get more intrusive. At what point will you say NO MORE?

OK Greg, I just went to the Adobe site and tried the activation demo. I don't see what the problem is and I don't consider it intrusive. . If this is a way to help prevent copyright abuse, great. According to Adobe, you will not be forwarding any personal information. I don't know what the situation would be if you change computers but I'm confident they have a reasonable solution.

There is also a telephone activation.

Rick

 

[Thomas Gardner]

I already have my preorder in and on file. Can't wait to go
through the activation process

I'll register but not activate. When are you going to draw the
line? It won't stop here. It will get more and more intrusive and
you can take that to the bank!

In America, the land of the free and the brave, we've allready been violated, so it's too late "Come here you!" From the movie "Deliverence".

What's the big deal about activating software? They spend the
hundreds of millions (US) to develop the software, so what's so

Bahahaha hundred's of millions to come up with PS 8????? Please.

Millions would only cover the rent for their building for a month. The things huge.

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[Greg M]

It will only get more intrusive. At what point will you say NO MORE?

OK Greg, I just went to the Adobe site and tried the activation
demo. I don't see what the problem is and I don't consider it
intrusive. . If this is a way to help prevent copyright abuse,

It won't do much.

great. According to Adobe, you will not be forwarding any
personal information.

They might be right but what's to stop them from moving to that in the future?

I don't know what the situation would be if
you change computers but I'm confident they have a reasonable
solution.

There is also a telephone activation.

But you have no idea what those numbers mean that you are reading to them.

Rick

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[Guy Rehorst]

Minor system upgrades won't require additional activation. Also Adobe licenses you to put it on 2 systems- it will allow at least two activations right away. Beyond that remains to be seen. I doubt I will do more than three installs before they'll come up with another version (9.0) that I'll want. If I have to make a phone call a year down the road I won't be too upset about it.

Guy

Guy

Sorry, for the few minutes it will take to activate, I'm going to
go for it.

The first time. Go to activate it on a new machine and it will
take a phone call. Who knows how long that will take.

I have no problem with vendors protecting their IP. I live in a
region where you can buy PS7 for about $6 (it may or may not work
of course) which is why Adobe has to do this sort of thing.

I also understand that is a problem but they should go after them.
This activation cr@p is a PITA for legal users. It's a company
that is looking for an easy way to deal with thiefs by intruding on
our privicy, and yes it is. They require that you let them gather
information from your home to verify who is using the software and
if that information changes then you have to call them to ask for
permission to continue to use it. These big companies are getting
out of hand. They should go after the thiefs and leave the legal
users alone. What they are doing is calling all of us thiefs
unless we let them check up on us.

--
Greg M
http://www.mocanu.com/gallery/index.php
http://dslr.mocanu.com

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