Five Shot Burst for HDR??

[Clark666]

--I want to use a better HDR with my camera. I would like the camera to take a burst of five RAW files each with different exposures to help the dynamic range of difficult lighting situations. The current HDR doesn't do that I don't want to take separate exposures for each of the photos to be used by the HDR because the subject moves eg. leaves blowing in the wind. Is there a way to use my camera so that I can take a high-speed burst of five exposures of the same scene each exposure being set to bracket the recommended setting?

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[brightcolours]

3 is enough.

 

[hermit383]

Yes the setting is called AEB in the menu. the only way to get to it is with the menu. You have to change there setting to either 5 or 7 exposures as 3 is the default. If you enable AEB then put the camera in continuous shooting, it will shoot the shots in a bracketed fashion.

I love my 1DXII for this reason. instead of going into the menu ( very easy actually), I can press 2 buttons to enable bracketing.

 

[Clark666]

Thanks Do you know of any way to just take the burst of photos with different exposures without having the processing done by the camera? I would like five photos of different (bracketed exposure) saved to the card for HDR processing using DPP later on my computer. That way I can correct for any issues with one of the exposures. The default in camera processing doesn't allow for my corrections (input).

 

[brightcolours]

Thanks Do you know of any way to just take the burst of photos with different exposures without having the processing done by the camera? I would like five photos of different (bracketed exposure) saved to the card for HDR processing using DPP later on my computer.

That is what the camera does, exposure bracketing does not result in a processed HDR image.

That way I can correct for any issues with one of the exposures. The default in camera processing doesn't allow for my corrections (input).

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[Clark666]

Thank you I couldn't figure this out just by reading the manual.

 

[Clark666]

Well I just got help from the Canon guys: .

With the EOS 6D Mark II the Auto Exposure Bracketing (AEB) feature can be used to take up to 7 shots at different exposures, which could then be combined later in post processing. To set this up I recommend referring to the information on pages 472 and 247 of the camera's manual HERE.

Page 472 describes the [Number of bracketed shots] Custom Function I-5 that allows you set the number of exposure to be taken in AEB (2, 3, 5, or 7 shots). You may also want to change the sequence in which the exposures are captured using Custom Function I-4 [Bracketing sequence] on the top of page 472.

Page 247 describes the AEB feature as a whole and shows how to set it.

 

[BG454]

3 is enough.

+1

Sometimes you can even get away with just two exposures, one for highlights and one for shadows.
Five shots is overkill for most subjects.

 

[BlueCosmo5050]

You should not be using in camera HDR if you want good HDR photos. You set the camera to take 5 exposures. Heck I usually take 7, judge by the histogram. You put on the 2 sec timer, you hit the shutter button, it counts down from 2 and then will take all 5 shots. Go to the meter in the menu and you can set where all 5 shots are taken, for example, maybe you only want one over exposed shot but you want 3 under exposed shots, you can make it do that.

Then, in post is where the magic happens. Go download a trial of Aurora HDR 2018. I have used a TON of HDR software and by far Aurora is my favorite.

If not, you can do it in Lightroom or Photoshop. I find Photoshop to be a little better than Lightroom.

It's not difficult to do it in post. You either let the camera do 3 brackets and the little computer in the camera applies a preset to it and you lose a TON of information OR you put it on your laptop/desktop and you have a powerful computer and you lose NO information and you edit to your taste.

It is not hard to edit an HDR. The sliders are just like doing any other raw file.

You may want to mix layers in different ways as well. For example, sometimes for the sky I only use one photo, then the foreground might be 3 photos mixed together. With Aurora and most programs you can erase layers where you want them erased.

Trust me, this will improve your photography greatly. Just don't over do the clarity and make it look like a cartoon.

 

[BlueCosmo5050]

3 is enough.

+1

Sometimes you can even get away with just two exposures, one for highlights and one for shadows.
Five shots is overkill for most subjects.

You can get away with two exposures but in most Landscape/outdoor situations it usually takes more than 2 if you want to capture the entire dynamic range of the scene.

You turn on your histogram in live view and you can look at it and see how many shots you need.

I've seen shots that I only needed 4 and I've seen shots where I needed 11. The camera will only go to 7 but after 7 you can fire off 8, 9, 10, 11, etc manually.

With the 5D Mark IV 7 is always enough for me but when I had the original 6D, it didn't have as much dynamic range as the 5D Mark IV and I would have to shoot a ton of brackets.

 

[brightcolours]

3 is enough.

+1

Sometimes you can even get away with just two exposures, one for highlights and one for shadows.
Five shots is overkill for most subjects.

You can get away with two exposures but in most Landscape/outdoor situations it usually takes more than 2 if you want to capture the entire dynamic range of the scene.

You turn on your histogram in live view and you can look at it and see how many shots you need.

I've seen shots that I only needed 4 and I've seen shots where I needed 11.

You take too small steps then.

Lets consider the DR of a normal tonal curve, 7-8 stops. A 6D offers 4 to 5 stops over that in a single shot. If you set the camera to take 3 shots with 3 stops between them, you add another 6 stops to that. Needed 11??

The camera will only go to 7 but after 7 you can fire off 8, 9, 10, 11, etc manually.

With the 5D Mark IV 7 is always enough for me but when I had the original 6D, it didn't have as much dynamic range as the 5D Mark IV and I would have to shoot a ton of brackets.

 

[Mike CH]

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Trust me, this will improve your photography greatly. Just don't over do the clarity and make it look like a cartoon.

I absolutely agree.

Instead of using the timer, I use a simple cable remote. Oh, and LR - I haven’t yet seen a situation where I had needs beyond that; but that’s really just a detail compared to the rest of you post.

Regards, Mike

 

[jwpnyc]

I have no problem to do 3 shoots but don't know how to do 5 shoots. So, tripods must be used for multi shoots.

 

[Andy01]

Well I just got help from the Canon guys: .

With the EOS 6D Mark II the Auto Exposure Bracketing (AEB) feature can be used to take up to 7 shots at different exposures, which could then be combined later in post processing. To set this up I recommend referring to the information on pages 472 and 247 of the camera's manual HERE.

Page 472 describes the [Number of bracketed shots] Custom Function I-5 that allows you set the number of exposure to be taken in AEB (2, 3, 5, or 7 shots). You may also want to change the sequence in which the exposures are captured using Custom Function I-4 [Bracketing sequence] on the top of page 472.

Page 247 describes the AEB feature as a whole and shows how to set it.

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Something else to bear in mind. The camera takes the shots at the rate it is set to - so it is usually best to set it to the highest frame rate mode when doing bracketing. That way you minimise the movement between shots.

Colin

 

[Chris Wolfgram]

You should not be using in camera HDR if you want good HDR photos. You set the camera to take 5 exposures. Heck I usually take 7, judge by the histogram. You put on the 2 sec timer, you hit the shutter button, it counts down from 2 and then will take all 5 shots. Go to the meter in the menu and you can set where all 5 shots are taken, for example, maybe you only want one over exposed shot but you want 3 under exposed shots, you can make it do that.

Then, in post is where the magic happens. Go download a trial of Aurora HDR 2018. I have used a TON of HDR software and by far Aurora is my favorite.

If not, you can do it in Lightroom or Photoshop. I find Photoshop to be a little better than Lightroom.

It's not difficult to do it in post. You either let the camera do 3 brackets and the little computer in the camera applies a preset to it and you lose a TON of information OR you put it on your laptop/desktop and you have a powerful computer and you lose NO information and you edit to your taste.

It is not hard to edit an HDR. The sliders are just like doing any other raw file.

You may want to mix layers in different ways as well. For example, sometimes for the sky I only use one photo, then the foreground might be 3 photos mixed together. With Aurora and most programs you can erase layers where you want them erased.

Trust me, this will improve your photography greatly. Just don't over do the clarity and make it look like a cartoon.

I usually shoot 5 shot bracketed sets, but sometimes, if I have the sun in my face, and shadowed areas in the same scene, I will take 7 shots.

I still use the old standby, Photomatix for processing. And as Bluecosmos pointed out, it is possible to go overboard and make your shots look like a cartoon.... But, it's also possible to do them so lightly, that old school pros love them, while people on the street will mostly ignore them lol

The general public LOVES obvious HDR

 

[Ed Rizk]

Three brackets two stops apart is usually good. From a tripod, I chimp until everything is exposed in one shot or another. If they are not too far apart, I pick three to process in Photomatix. Sometimes the three are far enough apart that you need to process five brackets.

Real photographer hate HDR. Most everybody else loves it.

 

[BG454]

Three brackets two stops apart is usually good. From a tripod, I chimp until everything is exposed in one shot or another. If they are not too far apart, I pick three to process in Photomatix. Sometimes the three are far enough apart that you need to process five brackets.

Real photographer hate HDR. Most everybody else loves it.

Most everybody else probably doesn't have a clue what HDR is all about.

 

[Chris Wolfgram]

Three brackets two stops apart is usually good. From a tripod, I chimp until everything is exposed in one shot or another. If they are not too far apart, I pick three to process in Photomatix. Sometimes the three are far enough apart that you need to process five brackets.

Real photographer hate HDR. Most everybody else loves it.

Lol I love it !

 

[Chris Wolfgram]

Three brackets two stops apart is usually good. From a tripod, I chimp until everything is exposed in one shot or another. If they are not too far apart, I pick three to process in Photomatix. Sometimes the three are far enough apart that you need to process five brackets.

Real photographer hate HDR. Most everybody else loves it.

Most everybody else probably doesn't have a clue what HDR is all about.

Most people don't care what HDR is all about. All they care about is what looks good to their eyes. And I'm right there with them. Not really into reference shots.

 

[Chris Wolfgram]

Three brackets two stops apart is usually good. From a tripod, I chimp until everything is exposed in one shot or another. If they are not too far apart, I pick three to process in Photomatix. Sometimes the three are far enough apart that you need to process five brackets.

Real photographer hate HDR. Most everybody else loves it.

Most everybody else probably doesn't have a clue what HDR is all about.

Completely aside from the discussion about what is or isn't "good" HDR, I was just checking out your gallery and wanted to say you have some really nice stuff there That train with all the steam is fantastic !