Just bought a D850 and own PS 5cs ...Now no longer can view my raw files. Must I go to DNG or Nikon

[piknklik]

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[Leonard Shepherd]

Ideally you need to upgrade to "The Cloud" for PS plus Lightroom at a quite low monthly rental.

 

[toomanycanons]

Surprise surprise. An 8 year old piece of software doesn't support a very recent camera. Heck, CS5 doesn't support my D7200. Find a workaround and let us know what works for you. Man, DNG files from the D850 are gonna be huge!

 

[robproctor83]

Hi, the best tool for reviewing your super large resolution images from the d850 is actually the nx viewer from Nikon, it's free just go download it from the Nikon site. It's much much faster than Lightroom and offers some better features such as being able to browse the images from a SD card without having to download them to your computer first. Alternatively you could download the updated nef codec from their site which will let you view the images in Windows photo viewer, however it's very slow and you may not be able to see the images at full 1:1 resolution. Nikon's nx viewer is really good and the best overall way to review your photos quickly and efficiently. I can't recommend it enough.

 

[Brian_]

If you are a Lightroom user, you need to upgrade to Lightroom 6. The other option is the the Cloud as someone else mentioned.

After getting my D850 last year, it was a surprise to me as well.

There other options out there, and moving forward, I will need to use one of them. It appears that Lightroom 6 is the end of the line from my perspective.

From a hobby perspective, there is a big difference in one time discretionary spending, and never ending monthly reoccurring costs. Apparently Adobe is not interested in the hobby market. I don't need more monthly cords to cut.

Brian_

 

[Canadianguy]

Its update to new Cloud version or download the free DNG converter and add it to your workflow - convert all NEF files to DNG so your CS5 can read the DNG files. If you want to stick to adobe

Otherwise - its Nikon's free software for you or look for one of the open source processors.

 

[Antal I Kozma]

My situation is similar with PS6. However, I started using PhotoNinja long ago for RAW conversion. Much better than any Adobe flavour. Not even expensive either.

I convert my RAW with PhotoNinja then work on the TIFF files in either CS or whatever else I prefer. Now, there is also On1 Photo RAW 2018, a complete suite from RAW conversion through processing and effects. A very-very exciting suite to work with. I hardly ever touch Photoshop since I started to work with this suite.

All this said, the entry level Adobe solution is also not too bad. I just happened to develop a dislike towards Adobe and it led to utilizing other software with a simple and effective workflow. SO I stay with ON1 and PhotoNinja and use PS6 sparingly when needed.

Best, AIK

 

[Flashlight]

I started using DXO PhotoLab for converting RAW files and then use an older version of Photoshop on tiffs if I want some further magic.

The 'Prime' noise reduction in PhotoLab is very good, about a stop better than the Nik plugin I used before. PhotoLab also has some nice 'auto' functions which work surprisingly good most of the time.

 

[Mach Schnell]

I'll second the switch to DxO Photolab. I made this move several months ago and have been quite pleased. Photolab's rendering of NEF files is exquisite. I see more detail than any other NEF converter, and I tried 6 of them including Adobe and Nikon NX-D. The color rendition is not quite as accurate as Nikon software, but still better than Adobe.

 

[TheClueless]

It's not a trinket, it's a tool. We're for good or bad (I'd say veering on the bad, especially with Adobe) in the age of subscription software. To make the best of the new tool, you'll need the new software to support it. Suck it up.

 

[Brian_]

(Suck it up ... Clueless?) Nice!

I don't buy new tools/wrenches with every new car I buy. Likewise, I don't rent tools on a monthly subscription basis. I buy my tools when I have discretionary money to spend.

 

[greenmanphoto]

My situation is similar with PS6. However, I started using PhotoNinja long ago for RAW conversion. Much better than any Adobe flavour. Not even expensive either.

I convert my RAW with PhotoNinja then work on the TIFF files in either CS or whatever else I prefer. Now, there is also On1 Photo RAW 2018, a complete suite from RAW conversion through processing and effects. A very-very exciting suite to work with. I hardly ever touch Photoshop since I started to work with this suite.

All this said, the entry level Adobe solution is also not too bad. I just happened to develop a dislike towards Adobe and it led to utilizing other software with a simple and effective workflow. SO I stay with ON1 and PhotoNinja and use PS6 sparingly when needed.

Best, AIK

Antal,

Good to hear from someone that uses PhotoNinja, as I've been considering it for a while! I'd downloaded a trial a while back, but had poor timing when I did that, and was too busy to really play with it much at all. Now, the trial period's expired, so I've not tried to download it again. Can you provide a bit more feedback on it, please? I just got a D850, and I also have a D500, and while they both appear to work with my LR6, I know I'll be running up against a wall soon, and I don't want to go with Adobe's cloud services, either.

On1 is one of the others I'm considering, too. Why do you use On1 instead of continuing to work in PhotoNinja? Does PhotoNinja not provide enough/good controls for processing the files? Does On1 do something that PN doesn't do?

Thanks much for your input!

Sam

 

[Antal I Kozma]

Antal,

Good to hear from someone that uses PhotoNinja, as I've been considering it for a while! I'd downloaded a trial a while back, but had poor timing when I did that, and was too busy to really play with it much at all. Now, the trial period's expired, so I've not tried to download it again. Can you provide a bit more feedback on it, please? I just got a D850, and I also have a D500, and while they both appear to work with my LR6, I know I'll be running up against a wall soon, and I don't want to go with Adobe's cloud services, either.

On1 is one of the others I'm considering, too. Why do you use On1 instead of continuing to work in PhotoNinja? Does PhotoNinja not provide enough/good controls for processing the files? Does On1 do something that PN doesn't do?

Thanks much for your input!

Sam

 

[greenmanphoto]

Antal,

Good to hear from someone that uses PhotoNinja, as I've been considering it for a while! I'd downloaded a trial a while back, but had poor timing when I did that, and was too busy to really play with it much at all. Now, the trial period's expired, so I've not tried to download it again. Can you provide a bit more feedback on it, please? I just got a D850, and I also have a D500, and while they both appear to work with my LR6, I know I'll be running up against a wall soon, and I don't want to go with Adobe's cloud services, either.

On1 is one of the others I'm considering, too. Why do you use On1 instead of continuing to work in PhotoNinja? Does PhotoNinja not provide enough/good controls for processing the files? Does On1 do something that PN doesn't do?

Thanks much for your input!

Sam

 

[NotASpeckOfCereal]

Hi, the best tool for reviewing your super large resolution images from the d850 is actually the nx viewer from Nikon, it's free just go download it from the Nikon site. It's much much faster than Lightroom and offers some better features such as being able to browse the images from a SD card without having to download them to your computer first. Alternatively you could download the updated nef codec from their site which will let you view the images in Windows photo viewer, however it's very slow and you may not be able to see the images at full 1:1 resolution. Nikon's nx viewer is really good and the best overall way to review your photos quickly and efficiently. I can't recommend it enough.

It's not just ViewNX-i, which is a free Nikon browser that supports the D850 NEF files, but also Capture NX-D, which is a free Nikon NEF editor.

Capture NX-D is not Photoshop, but then you may not need more than the basic photo editing (color adjustments, contrast, sharpness, etc.). It's fast and accurate, plus has batch processing for large number of files.

However, if you're sure you need Photoshop, then yes -- the current Adobe DNG converter supports the D850 files. Then you can open up the images in Photoshop, albeit not with all of the Nikon NEF metadata (which Adobe apps don't read all of, not even the newest versions).

However, if you want fast / quick Photoshop editing of such huge RAW files -- especially if you are going to use Lightroom, I recommend biting the bullet and getting the PS + LR subscription. It doesn't just support RAW files from new cameras, but better supports modern computer architecture to process them more efficiently. At $10 a month, it would take you a year and a half to spend the equivalent of a version update (I believe my last PS update from v5 to v6 was about $180).

Chris

 

[NotASpeckOfCereal]

From a hobby perspective, there is a big difference in one time discretionary spending, and never ending monthly reoccurring costs. Apparently Adobe is not interested in the hobby market. I don't need more monthly cords to cut.

<shrug> I've never been a pro photographer, but I usually keep my software relatively up to date. It sucks getting left behind without modern functionality, not to mention support for newer cameras.

 

[NotASpeckOfCereal]

Its update to new Cloud version or download the free DNG converter and [...]

You're the 2nd person to say "update to the cloud". The latest version of Lightroom CC has a cloud option, but you can choose Classic and skip the cloud. Both LR and PS are installed and updated on your local machine (you're not editing in a web browser).

It's still software like before.

Chris

 

[Leonard Shepherd]

While I have Photoshop CS5.5, I've almost NEVER used it, with the exception of merging panoramas after processing them in LR6. I MIGHT get something else, but it sounds like PN would do EXACTLY what I need: be a great replacement for LR.

Am I correct in this assumption?

There is a potential huge issue.

Will any different software recognise and display all of your Lightroom side-car adjustments?

Generally they will if you have done a "save as" of the original file, but if not generally no.

There is already an issue with the old NX2 where some edits are not recognised with operating system that do not accept an old NX2 disc.

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Leonard Shepherd
In lots of ways good photography is much more about how equipment is used rather than the equipment being used.

 

[ImageAmateur]

https://www.phaseone.com/11

Use this to process RAW. Export as TIFF to an interim folder, then open with PS5 and continue any other editing you want.

Or, process RAW, open in CS5 via C1 facility, edit and it comes back into C1 for finalizing.

Well worth what it costs. Continuous unpaid updates over the two years (I think) it takes for a new version. New versions are usually about USD100 for the upgrade.

When one wants such a quality product, it costs. And the cost with this is not a lot, relatively speaking.

Good Luck.

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Wishing You Good Light.

 

[Leonard Shepherd]

Continuous unpaid updates over the two years (I think) it takes for a new version. New versions are usually about USD100 for the upgrade.

Adobe have indicated no more "stand alone" upgrades at least for Lightroom.