EM1.2 owners, would you buy it again?

[JudyN]

IBIS - somewhat, not compelling by itself

To me, this is the MOST compelling feature of this camera. It is a game changer for people who hate tripods and like to photograph in the evening/night and indoors. I can do things with this camera I couldn't dream of with my previous cameras, which yes, did have IS.

I also got the 12-100mm which adds even more to the IS.

Clearly whether this camera is "worth the money" depends on the kind of shooting you do and your budget.

 

[bryanbrun]

one what ?

Should I have lied or maybe just kept quiet ?

Does everybody else's opinion of the camera improve how well it meets my needs ?

peter

Maybe I should have added a smiley.

I was just pretty amazed to find so many people being so satisfied with a camera which many had claimed was overpriced. It was almost a party and you ruined it

 

[Pedagydusz]

And now I don't think that the price is too high!

--
Antonio
http://ferrer.smugmug.com/

 

[nebulla]

From the very outset of the release , I decided that I would not buy one until the price drops considerably, or better yet, when they begin to sell used. It is not because I am not aware of the very substantial upgrade, but I do not think that at $2000 for the body only, would make me that anxious to have one immediately. I am very happy with the E-M1 version 1 which I have, and which is still quite capable of doing almost anything that the version 2 will do. It may not have 121 pt AF system, not can it shoot at 60 fps or do 4 K video (which means nothing to me) but still one very fine camera. But, to be fair, I also shoot a Nikon D7200 which is capable of doing most of what the E-M1 lacks. I am not knocking those who purchased the version 2, and maybe I would too if it was my only camera, but at $2000?. It is one expensive puppy , and I do not see why I would want to sell such a capable camera as the E-M1 for $700? and pay another $1300 for a camera that is not far ahead in technology.

 

[Okapi001]

It seems you didn't quite understand the OP's question. It was not if you would buy it, but if you would buy it again.

 

[phil from seattle]

IBIS - somewhat, not compelling by itself

To me, this is the MOST compelling feature of this camera. It is a game changer for people who hate tripods and like to photograph in the evening/night and indoors. I can do things with this camera I couldn't dream of with my previous cameras, which yes, did have IS.

I also got the 12-100mm which adds even more to the IS.

Clearly whether this camera is "worth the money" depends on the kind of shooting you do and your budget.

--
Judy

As I said in my post, that is compared to the EM1 or EM5ii. It's not that much of an improvement. I seldom use a tripod with any of those cameras (mostly when stacking/bracketing). Lots of long exposure hand held shots with them. All the OMD series cameras have good (or even great) IBIS. I agree that it's a game changer.

 

[phil from seattle]

I do not see why I would want to sell such a capable camera as the E-M1 for $700? and pay another $1300 for a camera that is not far ahead in technology.

AF speed and better DR make a huge difference for action shooting. If that's not your game then you should stick with the EM1. However, for me, my "keeper" rate went up significantly for BIFs. Totally worth it.

 

[nebulla]

I do not see why I would want to sell such a capable camera as the E-M1 for $700? and pay another $1300 for a camera that is not far ahead in technology.

AF speed and better DR make a huge difference for action shooting. If that's not your game then you should stick with the EM1. However, for me, my "keeper" rate went up significantly for BIFs. Totally worth it.

I am quite aware of the advantages that the new camera brings, but it is only of greater benefit if your photography relies on action, and although I do shoot some BIF from time to time, the Version 1 is just as good for everything else. Bare in mind that I have the excellent Nikon D7200 for action, so I am not missing anything.

The bottom line is: Would I buy the version 2 ? Yes, if it was my only camera, but I would still not be happy with the price. I still think that the upgrades do not justify the steep price, but Olympus marketing departing is not stupid in their thinking that they would not be able to sell the camera. There are too many users who will buy anything at any price either because of boredom, or because of impulsiveness. There will always be a market for anything at any price to cut a long story short.

However, it is s great camera, well thought out, and very responsive . I had the opportunity to shoot one recently while at Rondeau Park, and I admit that it was quite a difference compared to the version 1. For one, there was a lot less hunting for focus. I did not have it long enough to say anything else.

 

[gary0319]

I do not see why I would want to sell such a capable camera as the E-M1 for $700? and pay another $1300 for a camera that is not far ahead in technology.

If you don't see the need for the features of the E-M1 II over the E-M1 I, than you are absolutely right not to spend the additional money. Me.......I sold the E-M1.1 and spent the extra money. Knowing what I know know now after owning the E-M1 II for the past 5-6 months, I would gladly do it again, even if it cost more money

 

[nebulla]

I do not see why I would want to sell such a capable camera as the E-M1 for $700? and pay another $1300 for a camera that is not far ahead in technology.

If you don't see the need for the features of the E-M1 II over the E-M1 I, than you are absolutely right not to spend the additional money. Me.......I sold the E-M1.1 and spent the extra money. Knowing what I know know now after owning the E-M1 II for the past 5-6 months, I would gladly do it again, even if it cost more money

Good for you. Enjoy

I am not knocking others for doing what they think is a justifiable expense, and if you make money taking pictures, then any price will offset your expenses. It is a hobby for me, and as I have been around the block a few times, I know that the camera does not make the photographer. It is a tool, like any other tool which helps to do the job easier. I am not targeting Olympus either. All camera manufacturers are guilty of overcharging for their products and they get away with it because of our impulsiveness, and it is hard to understand why the price of the camera which I just purchased 6 months ago, is worth less than 1/2 the cost of the original purchase price. This is a what some manufactures do. Release a new camera as soon as they have sold enough of the older model, leaving the consumer high and dry. Thank goodness that I can say that this does NOT apply to Olympus. Anyway, you do what you do, and I will do what I do. I am just ranting.

 

[JudyN]

I am quite aware of the advantages that the new camera brings, but it is only of greater benefit if your photography relies on action,

Not necessarily. I love it for its fantastic image stabilization. Especially along with the 12-100mm lens, it is a real game changer for hand-held images indoors and in low light light evening and night. I have a whole collection of new photographs that I could not do with my previous cameras.

 

[gary0319]

I do not see why I would want to sell such a capable camera as the E-M1 for $700? and pay another $1300 for a camera that is not far ahead in technology.

If you don't see the need for the features of the E-M1 II over the E-M1 I, than you are absolutely right not to spend the additional money. Me.......I sold the E-M1.1 and spent the extra money. Knowing what I know know now after owning the E-M1 II for the past 5-6 months, I would gladly do it again, even if it cost more money

Good for you. Enjoy

I am not knocking others for doing what they think is a justifiable expense, and if you make money taking pictures, then any price will offset your expenses. It is a hobby for me, and as I have been around the block a few times, I know that the camera does not make the photographer. It is a tool, like any other tool which helps to do the job easier. I am not targeting Olympus either. All camera manufacturers are guilty of overcharging for their products and they get away with it because of our impulsiveness, and it is hard to understand why the price of the camera which I just purchased 6 months ago, is worth less than 1/2 the cost of the original purchase price. This is a what some manufactures do. Release a new camera as soon as they have sold enough of the older model, leaving the consumer high and dry. Thank goodness that I can say that this does NOT apply to Olympus. Anyway, you do what you do, and I will do what I do. I am just ranting

Well, I'm over 70 tears old and hardly "impulsive" with my buying habits, nor do I make any money from my photographs. Photography is my hobby, and I don't mind spending the money to use the best tools I can afford in pursuit of that hobby.

Yes, I have an expensive ( for my budget) camera, but I drive a 15 year old car, and have an 18 year old boat to fish from. I'm happy with all three.

I don't buy the theory that manufacturers have some conspiracy going on to fleece their customers out of their money. I'm always amazed that some that rail against the government regulation of industry, saying that such intervention stifles competition and the supposed lower prices, complain when the same competition results in advanced products that garner higher prices.

End of my rant...

 

[JaKing]

I am quite aware of the advantages that the new camera brings, but it is only of greater benefit if your photography relies on action,

Not necessarily. I love it for its fantastic image stabilization. Especially along with the 12-100mm lens, it is a real game changer for hand-held images indoors and in low light light evening and night. I have a whole collection of new photographs that I could not do with my previous cameras.

 

[doug wever]

. . . . and I do not see why I would want to sell such a capable camera as the E-M1 for $700? and pay another $1300 for a camera that is not far ahead in technology.

Whatever you need to tell yourself.


Some of the tech advances of the E-M1.2 over the E-M1.1

 

[Robert111]

i bought the mk2 and the PL 100-400 for a birding rig that was not too heavy - and it delivers the goods,. I was unprepared for how much more I would like the mk2 as a total package compared to the mk 1. Feel in hand, operational speed, autofocus, better electronic shutter, improved IBIS, and new sensor cumulatively have resulted in a really fun camera to shoot and much better IQ for me. There is no doubt the mk2 is a much improved camera. Whether it is worth the cost depends on personal circumstances. It was definitely worth it to me.

 

[nebulla]

. . . . and I do not see why I would want to sell such a capable camera as the E-M1 for $700? and pay another $1300 for a camera that is not far ahead in technology.

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

I remember quite clearly that when it was first announced everybody was balking about the steep price for the camera compared to the E-M1 version 1. Now everybody is on the defense.

I am not for one minute disagreeing with anyone about the improvement of the version 2, but no matter how you look at it, it is quite a steep jump in price. Maybe its worth the price and I might just end up getting it myself, but I will hold off for a while to see what happens down the line. I also do not think that Nikon's D500 is worth the steep price either, so I am not ranting about Olympus alone. I can afford it if I want to, but I don't believe in overspending either, and do not use credit cards for my purchases unless I can pay it off at the end of the month as this only adds more to the cost with the hefty interest rates.

Some of the tech advances of the E-M1.2 over the E-M1.1

 

[greg 123]

Hi guys

Just wondering if those of you who bought this camera would make the same choice over again. i.e does its performance and output for you justify its high retail price..

Cheers

Yes. I prefer the EM1ii to other cameras that have cost me more.

 

[Okapi001]

All camera manufacturers are guilty of overcharging for their products

It seems you not only missed the point of this thread (why buy or not to buy the E-M1 ll again), but you also fail to understand that the Olympus is not overcharging for this camera.

It's the cheapest weather sealed camera able to do sixty 20 mp raw frames per sec and also has a pro-capture mode, hi-resolution mode , focus stacking, live composite, best IBIS, PDAF ...

It may well be that you personally don't need such a camera and buying it would of course be a waste of money, but that is not the same as a camera being overcharged by a manufacturer. And of course we would all like to see it being less expensive, who wouldn't, but the fact is, compared to other cameras (from Olympus and any other manufacturer), E-M1 ll is actually very reasonably priced.

 

[Okapi001]

. . . . and I do not see why I would want to sell such a capable camera as the E-M1 for $700? and pay another $1300 for a camera that is not far ahead in technology.

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

I remember quite clearly that when it was first announced everybody was balking about the steep price for the camera compared to the E-M1 version 1. Now everybody is on the defense.

First of all, not everybody were ranting about the steep price. Only those who held some false expectations of it being only slightly more expensive than the mk1.

And secondly, at that time nobody knew how great the camera actually is.

 

[doug wever]

. . . . and I do not see why I would want to sell such a capable camera as the E-M1 for $700? and pay another $1300 for a camera that is not far ahead in technology. [bold added]

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

I remember quite clearly that when it was first announced everybody was balking about the steep price for the camera compared to the E-M1 version 1. Now everybody is on the defense.


Some of the tech advances of the E-M1.2 over the E-M1.1

No. You explicitly disagreed.

You characterized the E-M1.2 verses the E-M1.1 as, "a camera that is not far ahead in technology." Your words. The chart merely evidences the folly of the assertion.