Sony a6000 video problems again!

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Hey everyone,

I have a problem with the last videos i have recorded.
I have recorded few short videos and when I tried to watch them on my PC with potplayer,the videos are sometimes fast motion sometimes slow motion.I also tried to watch on other media players.
I have had interlaced video problems and asked a question here before.

my camera is PAL and im using it NTSC.I don't think it is about it thou.
 
Hey everyone,

I have a problem with the last videos i have recorded.
I have recorded few short videos and when I tried to watch them on my PC with potplayer,the videos are sometimes fast motion sometimes slow motion.I also tried to watch on other media players.
I have had interlaced video problems and asked a question here before.

My desktop's monitor is broken,so I am on my laptop for now which is old but I didn't have any issue playing any kind of videos on youtube full res.
Since you're using Windows and some obscure open source video player, there could be any number of software issues involved, and I'll keep a safe distance to those.

But with Windows and other software aside, sounds like it could be a dodgy recording on a too slow SD card issue. What kind of SD card are you using? I assume you've recorded your clip in XAVC-S mode.

Another likely cause is the old laptop itself. If it's a typical inexpensive mainstream model, chances are the system and the graphics card are not designed to deal with higher bitrate video streams, and the XAVC-S is where the laptop starts acting up.

Things to try, first of all copy the clip off the SD card onto the computer hard drive, unless you haven't done that already, and try playing it from the HD.

If it's still choppy and dropping frames, try playing the clip in some other, newer and mightier computer.

If it's still looking bad, try doing two or more separate test recordings, one in XAVC-S mode, one in AVCHD (slower bitrate), and then get a new, faster card and repeat the same procedure, using a fast enough computer to view the results, if possible.

That should eliminate most hardware and card related issues from the equation, leaving only software and possible user-related issues. Better to double check your camera settings, too.
 
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No trouble with YouTube videos? Of course, that depends on your internet connection, not your computer unless you're downloading them to your PC and then playing them for some reason.
 
Since you're using Windows and some obscure open source video player, there could be any number of software issues involved, and I'll keep a safe distance to those.
I agree!
But with Windows and other software aside, sounds like it could be a dodgy recording on a too slow SD card issue. What kind of SD card are you using? I assume you've recorded your clip in XAVC-S mode.
An old slow care I have yes...I recorded the video 60p AVCHD.
Another likely cause is the old laptop itself. If it's a typical inexpensive mainstream model, chances are the system and the graphics card are not designed to deal with higher bitrate video streams, and the XAVC-S is where the laptop starts acting up.
This is possible
Things to try, first of all copy the clip off the SD card onto the computer hard drive, unless you haven't done that already, and try playing it from the HD.
Yes I did that and the problem remains
If it's still choppy and dropping frames, try playing the clip in some other, newer and mightier computer.

If it's still looking bad, try doing two or more separate test recordings, one in XAVC-S mode, one in AVCHD (slower bitrate), and then get a new, faster card and repeat the same procedure, using a fast enough computer to view the results, if possible.

That should eliminate most hardware and card related issues from the equation, leaving only software and possible user-related issues. Better to double check your camera settings, too.
Yes I like the way you are taking the problems lol

this is also my method to handle with a problem...scientific method :))

here is the video i took;


I guess it is lossless cuz It is the same file size with the original one.
 
I don't think he's told us what card is being used, or if has other cards. As for assuming he is using XAVC, I doubt it, as I doubt if he has an SDXC card necessary for that codec. Sounds like we're dealing with someone with old equipment and limited budget - a computer not being used because of a broken monitor, when monitors are so cheap now, and an "old" card (again only one?), an aging notebook, the use of free software for editing, etc.

If he wants to do video, he should get new hardware (including 64gig SDXC cards) and if he gets a Mac, iMovie is free, which means he would have a decent editor that works well, even with 4K. If budget is indeed a problem, he could check into used equipment, as long as it's not more than a year old and wasn't a budget model when new.
 
Since you're using Windows and some obscure open source video player, there could be any number of software issues involved, and I'll keep a safe distance to those.
I agree!
But with Windows and other software aside, sounds like it could be a dodgy recording on a too slow SD card issue. What kind of SD card are you using? I assume you've recorded your clip in XAVC-S mode.
An old slow care I have yes...I recorded the video 60p AVCHD.
Another likely cause is the old laptop itself. If it's a typical inexpensive mainstream model, chances are the system and the graphics card are not designed to deal with higher bitrate video streams, and the XAVC-S is where the laptop starts acting up.
This is possible
Things to try, first of all copy the clip off the SD card onto the computer hard drive, unless you haven't done that already, and try playing it from the HD.
Yes I did that and the problem remains
If it's still choppy and dropping frames, try playing the clip in some other, newer and mightier computer.

If it's still looking bad, try doing two or more separate test recordings, one in XAVC-S mode, one in AVCHD (slower bitrate), and then get a new, faster card and repeat the same procedure, using a fast enough computer to view the results, if possible.

That should eliminate most hardware and card related issues from the equation, leaving only software and possible user-related issues. Better to double check your camera settings, too.
Yes I like the way you are taking the problems lol

this is also my method to handle with a problem...scientific method :))

here is the video i took;

https://www.dropbox.com/s/du2n65323iaxuvv/00003.MTS?dl=0

I guess it is lossless cuz It is the same file size with the original one.

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“silence is the language of God,
all else is poor translation.”
Rumi
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That there is absolutely nothing wrong at all with either your camera, or the video files that it is producing. I downloaded this video, and it plays perfectly fine.

Despite what anyone else may say, there has been absolutely nothing that you have mentioned here that would suggest that your camera is having any problem in recording videos.


The problem here clearly lies with your computer.

Now regarding which video file format is best to use, AVCHD uses much higher compression than XAVC-S uses. So it will actually overtax a computer's hardware worse, as the computer must work extra hard in decoding the video. So of the two formats, AVCHD will be more difficult for your computer to play or edit, compared to XAVC-S. I personally know this from a great deal of experience in working with both video formats. I used AVCHD for years, until I switched over to XAVC-S in April of 2014.

However, as others have noted, XAVC-S does requite the use of a SDXC card. So you would need to first purchase a SDXC memory card, in order to switch to recording to XAVC-S. Now whether making that change would be enough to make any difference on your computer, I do not know. For you have not posted any specifications or information about your computer.

You are looking in the wrong places for a solution to this problem. Your focus needs to instead be on analyzing your computer's hardware, which is most likely inadequate. And many laptops are very limited in terms of how much one can upgrade their hardware.

So the bad news here is that there may well be nothing that you can do to address this problem with your current computer.

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I don't think he's told us what card is being used, or if has other cards. As for assuming he is using XAVC, I doubt it, as I doubt if he has an SDXC card necessary for that codec. Sounds like we're dealing with someone with old equipment and limited budget - a computer not being used because of a broken monitor, when monitors are so cheap now, and an "old" card (again only one?), an aging notebook, the use of free software for editing, etc.

If he wants to do video, he should get new hardware (including 64gig SDXC cards) and if he gets a Mac, iMovie is free, which means he would have a decent editor that works well, even with 4K. If budget is indeed a problem, he could check into used equipment, as long as it's not more than a year old and wasn't a budget model when new.
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The old notebook. Most older notebooks, unless they were expensive, higher-end models, are not up to processing HD video.
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I don't think he's told us what card is being used, or if has other cards. As for assuming he is using XAVC, I doubt it, as I doubt if he has an SDXC card necessary for that codec. Sounds like we're dealing with someone with old equipment and limited budget - a computer not being used because of a broken monitor, when monitors are so cheap now, and an "old" card (again only one?), an aging notebook, the use of free software for editing, etc.

If he wants to do video, he should get new hardware (including 64gig SDXC cards) and if he gets a Mac, iMovie is free, which means he would have a decent editor that works well, even with 4K. If budget is indeed a problem, he could check into used equipment, as long as it's not more than a year old and wasn't a budget model when new.
 
Old notebooks. Yeah, that's why I wrote to not consider budget models. When traveling, I was using a mid-2011 11" Air (i7, 4 gigs RAM). It did fine for HD (iMovie). It was replaced a few months ago with the new MacBook (middle model) which has surprised me how well it does, despite its weak "mobile" setup. I have a late 2013 top of the line 15" MBP with discrete graphics, 16 gigs RAM, which has been sitting in a drawer for months because my new mid-range Mini (my daily computer) does everything okay and it runs a nice 27" monitor and a second will soon be added. All of those computers have SSDs, of course, except the Mini which has the Fusion 1T.

The only reason that I haven't sold the 15" MBP is that, when I move to 4K, everything written above may change. Not only that, but the prices on new ones have come down so much with all of the holiday specials that it makes more sense to keep it around. Although rarely used, it's my most powerful computer and I can easily just attach the peripherals on my Mini to it and do something else with the Mini (which I really like, by the way).

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"Knowledge is good." Emil Faber
 
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I don't think he's told us what card is being used, or if has other cards. As for assuming he is using XAVC, I doubt it, as I doubt if he has an SDXC card necessary for that codec. Sounds like we're dealing with someone with old equipment and limited budget - a computer not being used because of a broken monitor, when monitors are so cheap now, and an "old" card (again only one?), an aging notebook, the use of free software for editing, etc.

If he wants to do video, he should get new hardware (including 64gig SDXC cards) and if he gets a Mac, iMovie is free, which means he would have a decent editor that works well, even with 4K. If budget is indeed a problem, he could check into used equipment, as long as it's not more than a year old and wasn't a budget model when new.

--
"Knowledge is good." Emil Faber
LOL
I am about to hate myself and start thinking that using old gear is a crime!
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Look, you are the one who came here asking for help in explaining why you are having so many problems playing video on your computer.

It is certainly no crime to use older, low performance gear. But you wanted an answer as to what is the source of your difficulty.

I'm sorry that there is no easy solution that anyone can offer you. You need better hardware. There is no way around that.

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An old slow care I have yes...I recorded the video 60p AVCHD.
Well, looks like the old card is okay for an AVCHD recording, but for future shoots, you might want to invest in some newer, faster cards. For example, take advantage of the sales that are likely to start right after the holidays in many places.
here is the video i took;

https://www.dropbox.com/s/du2n65323iaxuvv/00003.MTS?dl=0

I guess it is lossless cuz It is the same file size with the original one.
I didn't download it but I played it in the Dropbox page, and it run fine. Which means the card and the recording itself are fine, there are no dropped frames or hangs. Therefore the likely cause left is the computer and the software in it.

Which means the good news is, it's mostly a playback issue; you can carry on shooting with your camera and existing card in AVCHD mode, but you'll just need to save the clips for later viewing and editing in some other computer.

I'd recommend that you consider investing in a couple of new, big enough and fast enough cards (for a number of reasons) and, at some point, in newer, faster computer hardware, unless you already have something else to edit with, too.

If you're going to go deeper into video shooting, you ought to invest in some proper editing software, too, like (in case you carry on with Windows) Adobe Premiere. Or maybe you could start with Premiere Elements and practise with it. Although for that you might need something better than the laptop you mentioned.

Your clip did make me smile, btw, as goofing around with one's dog is always fun. :)
LOL
I am about to hate myself and start thinking that using old gear is a crime!
Nah, just keep in mind that nerdy gearhead forums like this one are also social amplifiers, and tend to get noisy at times. You'll just need to have your filters on, and focus on the relevant.
I am just new at video,so before spending too much money on gear I have to learn first.
That's a good principle to go with.
And If something I am using is able to answer my needs,I don't buy something just because it is new.
Another good principle.

Nevertheless, consider video and video editing in particular one of the heavier computer activities. A one for which you actually do need a decent computer.

It doesn't have to be a pricey overkill for basic HD editing, though, but apparently something better than your old-ish laptop and the software in it. What is sufficient for basic photo editing may not be quite enough for fluent video, let alone fluent video editing.

Again, if you're going to start doing video regularly and properly, you'll also start editing your clips, not just playing them back. In that sense, unless your other computer is mightier than the laptop, consider investing in some hardware, something aimed at graphics-intensive work. Many computers aimed at gamers would do nicely, for example. Same thing if you're planning on upgrading your existing desktop hardware.

I'd recommend that you also give something like Premiere Elements a try, too. Your doggy clip would be a nice one to start practising with. You could edit the first 25 and the last 5 or so seconds out of it, just as your first simple editing exercise. Then carry on to the more demanding tasks from there.

Give the free trial versions a try first, just to see how well they'll run in your existing hardware. That way you won't need to invest in new hardware before it's absolutely necessary.

You'll get the hang of it soon enough. You'll also be able to prepare and upload your clips to YouTube and elsewhere, and you won't have much need for potplayers or whatever much longer. When Premiere Elements starts feeling too limited, you can upgrade to the full Premiere or something similar.

Meanwhile, Merry Christmas and happy holidays, enjoy it with your family and your four-legged goofball.
 
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I don't think he's told us what card is being used, or if has other cards. As for assuming he is using XAVC, I doubt it, as I doubt if he has an SDXC card necessary for that codec. Sounds like we're dealing with someone with old equipment and limited budget - a computer not being used because of a broken monitor, when monitors are so cheap now, and an "old" card (again only one?), an aging notebook, the use of free software for editing, etc.

If he wants to do video, he should get new hardware (including 64gig SDXC cards) and if he gets a Mac, iMovie is free, which means he would have a decent editor that works well, even with 4K. If budget is indeed a problem, he could check into used equipment, as long as it's not more than a year old and wasn't a budget model when new.
 
I don't think he's told us what card is being used, or if has other cards. As for assuming he is using XAVC, I doubt it, as I doubt if he has an SDXC card necessary for that codec. Sounds like we're dealing with someone with old equipment and limited budget - a computer not being used because of a broken monitor, when monitors are so cheap now, and an "old" card (again only one?), an aging notebook, the use of free software for editing, etc.

If he wants to do video, he should get new hardware (including 64gig SDXC cards) and if he gets a Mac, iMovie is free, which means he would have a decent editor that works well, even with 4K. If budget is indeed a problem, he could check into used equipment, as long as it's not more than a year old and wasn't a budget model when new.
 
An old slow care I have yes...I recorded the video 60p AVCHD.
Well, looks like the old card is okay for an AVCHD recording, but for future shoots, you might want to invest in some newer, faster cards. For example, take advantage of the sales that are likely to start right after the holidays in many places.
here is the video i took;

https://www.dropbox.com/s/du2n65323iaxuvv/00003.MTS?dl=0

I guess it is lossless cuz It is the same file size with the original one.
I didn't download it but I played it in the Dropbox page, and it run fine. Which means the card and the recording itself are fine, there are no dropped frames or hangs. Therefore the likely cause left is the computer and the software in it.

Which means the good news is, it's mostly a playback issue; you can carry on shooting with your camera and existing card in AVCHD mode, but you'll just need to save the clips for later viewing and editing in some other computer.

I'd recommend that you consider investing in a couple of new, big enough and fast enough cards (for a number of reasons) and, at some point, in newer, faster computer hardware, unless you already have something else to edit with, too.

If you're going to go deeper into video shooting, you ought to invest in some proper editing software, too, like (in case you carry on with Windows) Adobe Premiere. Or maybe you could start with Premiere Elements and practise with it. Although for that you might need something better than the laptop you mentioned.

Your clip did make me smile, btw, as goofing around with one's dog is always fun. :)
LOL
I am about to hate myself and start thinking that using old gear is a crime!
Nah, just keep in mind that nerdy gearhead forums like this one are also social amplifiers, and tend to get noisy at times. You'll just need to have your filters on, and focus on the relevant.
I am just new at video,so before spending too much money on gear I have to learn first.
That's a good principle to go with.
And If something I am using is able to answer my needs,I don't buy something just because it is new.
Another good principle.

Nevertheless, consider video and video editing in particular one of the heavier computer activities. A one for which you actually do need a decent computer.

It doesn't have to be a pricey overkill for basic HD editing, though, but apparently something better than your old-ish laptop and the software in it. What is sufficient for basic photo editing may not be quite enough for fluent video, let alone fluent video editing.

Again, if you're going to start doing video regularly and properly, you'll also start editing your clips, not just playing them back. In that sense, unless your other computer is mightier than the laptop, consider investing in some hardware, something aimed at graphics-intensive work. Many computers aimed at gamers would do nicely, for example. Same thing if you're planning on upgrading your existing desktop hardware.

I'd recommend that you also give something like Premiere Elements a try, too. Your doggy clip would be a nice one to start practising with. You could edit the first 25 and the last 5 or so seconds out of it, just as your first simple editing exercise. Then carry on to the more demanding tasks from there.

Give the free trial versions a try first, just to see how well they'll run in your existing hardware. That way you won't need to invest in new hardware before it's absolutely necessary.

You'll get the hang of it soon enough. You'll also be able to prepare and upload your clips to YouTube and elsewhere, and you won't have much need for potplayers or whatever much longer. When Premiere Elements starts feeling too limited, you can upgrade to the full Premiere or something similar.

Meanwhile, Merry Christmas and happy holidays, enjoy it with your family and your four-legged goofball.
One's words give an idea about his/her personality.I appreciate for your advices!

If I like videography more,I will keep your advices in my mind.

Merry Christmas for you and people you love ^^
 
I don't think he's told us what card is being used, or if has other cards. As for assuming he is using XAVC, I doubt it, as I doubt if he has an SDXC card necessary for that codec. Sounds like we're dealing with someone with old equipment and limited budget - a computer not being used because of a broken monitor, when monitors are so cheap now, and an "old" card (again only one?), an aging notebook, the use of free software for editing, etc.

If he wants to do video, he should get new hardware (including 64gig SDXC cards) and if he gets a Mac, iMovie is free, which means he would have a decent editor that works well, even with 4K. If budget is indeed a problem, he could check into used equipment, as long as it's not more than a year old and wasn't a budget model when new.
 
People that get in other peoples faces then blame it on them qualify for my ignore tab.

Do that and you won't have to worry about seeing if he calls you a hothead.

"Hothead" is not a photography term and thereore adds no value to this discussion.

Perhaps Mr Sweden should use that term in a Dr. Phil forum.

Good luck.

Happy holidays!

BC
 
People that get in other peoples faces then blame it on them qualify for my ignore tab.

Do that and you won't have to worry about seeing if he calls you a hothead.

"Hothead" is not a photography term and thereore adds no value to this discussion.

Perhaps Mr Sweden should use that term in a Dr. Phil forum.

Good luck.

Happy holidays!

BC
Perhaps Santa might bring you a sense of humor.
 
People that get in other peoples faces then blame it on them qualify for my ignore tab.

Do that and you won't have to worry about seeing if he calls you a hothead.

"Hothead" is not a photography term and thereore adds no value to this discussion.

Perhaps Mr Sweden should use that term in a Dr. Phil forum.

Good luck.
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What a silly thing for you to say. Especially since you, yourself, have made no attempt at all in this thread to help the OP understand why he is having so much trouble playing video on his laptop.

The OP wanted to know why he was having these difficulties. He at first thought that his A6000 was malfunctioning, and creating bad videos files. Others suggested that he should simply try different software to play his videos.

But he has tried a number of different video player programs now, and still has problems. And his video file that he shared is perfectly fine. There is nothing at all wrong with it.

To point out that his computer is the source of his problems, is hardly criticizing the OP. It is just pointing out to him where his problem lies.

The OP seems to think that just because his laptop is fine for displaying photos and surfing the web, that it should also be fine for processing video files. However, we all know that is clearly a false premise for anyone to make. And he seems to be basing his opinions upon that false premise.

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People that get in other peoples faces then blame it on them qualify for my ignore tab.

Do that and you won't have to worry about seeing if he calls you a hothead.

"Hothead" is not a photography term and thereore adds no value to this discussion.

Perhaps Mr Sweden should use that term in a Dr. Phil forum.

Good luck.
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What a silly thing for you to say. Especially since you, yourself, have made no attempt at all in this thread to help the OP understand why he is having so much trouble playing video on his laptop.

The OP wanted to know why he was having these difficulties. He at first thought that his A6000 was malfunctioning, and creating bad videos files. Others suggested that he should simply try different software to play his videos.

But he has tried a number of different video player programs now, and still has problems. And his video file that he shared is perfectly fine. There is nothing at all wrong with it.

To point out that his computer is the source of his problems, is hardly criticizing the OP. It is just pointing out to him where his problem lies.

The OP seems to think that just because his laptop is fine for displaying photos and surfing the web, that it should also be fine for processing video files. However, we all know that is clearly a false premise for anyone to make. And he seems to be basing his opinions upon that false premise.

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I guess some of you have difficulties understanding what is written!

I didn't say "just because I can display photos and surf on the web,my laptop is fine and can handle *processing* videos"...I didn't even mention processing videos at all,but watching videos.

I said;I didn't need to upgrade my laptop so far because 1-I was using my desktop 2-I was using my laptop for only web browsing

If I thougt my camera is the issue itself,I wouldn't bother myself to ask a question in forums.I would return it directly!

So read what I said well first,then make your comment! And stop assuming things as if I said them!

Pointing out the problem is ok.But making stupid comment like that "Sounds like we're dealing with someone with old equipment and limited budget - a computer not being used because of a broken monitor, when monitors are so cheap now, and an "old" card (again only one?), an aging notebook, the use of free software for editing, etc." is not pointing out the problem.

When some people make a comment which you don't like,you start attacking them.People don't have to agree with you!

Maybe he didn't make any comment about my problem but hey,because of what your friend wrote,it is not about video problem anymore!
 
You're wasting your time responding to people like that.
People that get in other peoples faces then blame it on them qualify for my ignore tab.

Do that and you won't have to worry about seeing if he calls you a hothead.

"Hothead" is not a photography term and thereore adds no value to this discussion.

Perhaps Mr Sweden should use that term in a Dr. Phil forum.

Good luck.
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What a silly thing for you to say. Especially since you, yourself, have made no attempt at all in this thread to help the OP understand why he is having so much trouble playing video on his laptop.

The OP wanted to know why he was having these difficulties. He at first thought that his A6000 was malfunctioning, and creating bad videos files. Others suggested that he should simply try different software to play his videos.

But he has tried a number of different video player programs now, and still has problems. And his video file that he shared is perfectly fine. There is nothing at all wrong with it.

To point out that his computer is the source of his problems, is hardly criticizing the OP. It is just pointing out to him where his problem lies.

The OP seems to think that just because his laptop is fine for displaying photos and surfing the web, that it should also be fine for processing video files. However, we all know that is clearly a false premise for anyone to make. And he seems to be basing his opinions upon that false premise.

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I guess some of you have difficulties understanding what is written!

I didn't say "just because I can display photos and surf on the web,my laptop is fine and can handle *processing* videos"...I didn't even mention processing videos at all,but watching videos.
I said;I didn't need to upgrade my laptop so far because 1-I was using my desktop 2-I was using my laptop for only web browsing

If I thougt my camera is the issue itself,I wouldn't bother myself to ask a question in forums.I would return it directly!

So read what I said well first,then make your comment! And stop assuming things as if I said them!

Pointing out the problem is ok.But making stupid comment like that "Sounds like we're dealing with someone with old equipment and limited budget - a computer not being used because of a broken monitor, when monitors are so cheap now, and an "old" card (again only one?), an aging notebook, the use of free software for editing, etc." is not pointing out the problem.

When some people make a comment which you don't like,you start attacking them.People don't have to agree with you!

Maybe he didn't make any comment about my problem but hey,because of what your friend wrote,it is not about video problem anymore!

--
“silence is the language of God,
all else is poor translation.”
Rumi
 
Merry Christmas and Happy New year ^^
 

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