Yep I think some of mine show uploaded as 1/125 and some at 10/125o.
Maybe it's one of those games to keep one mentally alert lol
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FZ1000 moon yikes! n salvaged
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Maybe it's one of those games to keep one mentally alert lol
anyone following.. little update
I'm leaning towards the issue being caused or exasperated from shooting in VIVID mode.
Sky cleared last night, it was too cold to really mess with it and Moon came out well after full dark.
Actually couldn't get anything worthy out of it, seemed too soft almost like slightly out of focus.
and to really reproduce the situation it needs to be shortly after sunset while there is still some blue in the sky.
Did notice something that surprised me a bit. the moon in dark sky produced really small file size, like black registered nothing. like 600Kb. IIRC my moon shots with the 200 the file size was closer to a normal file size.
Anyway it's supposed to warm up in the next few days so maybe I can stand to stay outside in the middle of the night for awhile,, and see how I can best come up with a shot. should be easier to do without snow on the ground.
kind of thinking I might as well try it in 4k video since the crop factor that gets to 592mm optical is basically just that. a crop. and can't imagine getting good moon shot even at 600 without more cropping.
and on the reproduction of the situation might just have to shoot some shots of the sky without the moon just after sunset to try to see how photo style impact that mottled looking sky deal
I'm leaning towards the issue being caused or exasperated from shooting in VIVID mode.
Sky cleared last night, it was too cold to really mess with it and Moon came out well after full dark.
Actually couldn't get anything worthy out of it, seemed too soft almost like slightly out of focus.
and to really reproduce the situation it needs to be shortly after sunset while there is still some blue in the sky.
Did notice something that surprised me a bit. the moon in dark sky produced really small file size, like black registered nothing. like 600Kb. IIRC my moon shots with the 200 the file size was closer to a normal file size.
Anyway it's supposed to warm up in the next few days so maybe I can stand to stay outside in the middle of the night for awhile,, and see how I can best come up with a shot. should be easier to do without snow on the ground.
kind of thinking I might as well try it in 4k video since the crop factor that gets to 592mm optical is basically just that. a crop. and can't imagine getting good moon shot even at 600 without more cropping.
and on the reproduction of the situation might just have to shoot some shots of the sky without the moon just after sunset to try to see how photo style impact that mottled looking sky deal
Still scratching my head on this one took a shot earier with same setting and about the same sky, didn't' see the problem.. in fact saw a plane I didn't know was there lol
sooc jpg
[ATTACH alt="Plane flying away using "moon" settings"]880796[/ATTACH]
Plane flying away using "moon" settings
first burst of the moon tonight. somehow auto white balance to a blue moon in Vivid (extremely customized Contrast +5, Sharp +5, NR -5 Sat -2)
reduced to my screen size. and trying to push the sharpness just so. still working with JPGs, infact going beyond optical zoom to 800mm, because this camera doesn't seem to mind it.
and different one shot in mono, this one pushed Contrast +5, Sharp +1, NR -2
Photostyle MONO
Still a work in progress
Oh and both above I had digital zoom ON, and used that to manually focus at 1600mm. with digital zoom on and in that range it would preview at exposure, without it on for some reason during focus it was going pure white overexposed white circle. might be a setting issue, but just even bliping into digital corrected that and allowed manual focus.
Actually shot some at 1600mm but the moon was way bigger than I wanted to see on the screen lol.
sooc jpg
[ATTACH alt="Plane flying away using "moon" settings"]880796[/ATTACH]
Plane flying away using "moon" settings
first burst of the moon tonight. somehow auto white balance to a blue moon in Vivid (extremely customized Contrast +5, Sharp +5, NR -5 Sat -2)
reduced to my screen size. and trying to push the sharpness just so. still working with JPGs, infact going beyond optical zoom to 800mm, because this camera doesn't seem to mind it.
and different one shot in mono, this one pushed Contrast +5, Sharp +1, NR -2
Photostyle MONO
Still a work in progress
Oh and both above I had digital zoom ON, and used that to manually focus at 1600mm. with digital zoom on and in that range it would preview at exposure, without it on for some reason during focus it was going pure white overexposed white circle. might be a setting issue, but just even bliping into digital corrected that and allowed manual focus.
Actually shot some at 1600mm but the moon was way bigger than I wanted to see on the screen lol.
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Looks pretty darn good to me.What about this
Seems the more I shoot in lower light or these moon shots my sooc stuff doesn't seem up to par. mne really seems real soft compared to the fz200 and lacks detail which requires me to PP push things hard. Almost like mine are ever so slightly out of focus. and soft compared to many of the fz1000 photos I see on here.
then in stark contrast to photos, most of the time the 4k video is rather incredible. as well as frames from 4k video.. I don't quite get it yet as photos should be better than video frames.
There is a litle trick 
But for common moon shooting, consider manual exposure mode, RAW, burst mode as there are masses and masses of cold and hot air whirling between you and the space. So from 30 exposures you can obtain 20 or 5 great shots or nothing. Best time is at night around 3-4 am. And manual focusing is a must have setting...I had very badly focused moon shots with AF. Its also about lucky. 2 days ago I couldnt make a shar moon photo because of air whirling. I saw it throught EVF like air dancing Yesterday it was totaly calm and I brought you the result. I had 22 quite sharp photos from 30 exposures.
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But for common moon shooting, consider manual exposure mode, RAW, burst mode as there are masses and masses of cold and hot air whirling between you and the space. So from 30 exposures you can obtain 20 or 5 great shots or nothing. Best time is at night around 3-4 am. And manual focusing is a must have setting...I had very badly focused moon shots with AF. Its also about lucky. 2 days ago I couldnt make a shar moon photo because of air whirling. I saw it throught EVF like air dancing
Yesterday it was totaly calm and I brought you the result. I had 22 quite sharp photos from 30 exposures.Thanks I'll have to study that. I've been avoiding RAW because I'm comparing things to my best results with the fz200 and all that stuff was jpeg. rather than possible best the fz1000 could produce.. It's weird to me that in point n shoot of birds and such, I feel I got clearer cleaner results with the fz200, and haven't' been able to set up both on same bird, but virtually every side by side set up test on other subjects the fz1000 wins. and sometimes wins at 600mm which is full optical for the fz200 while a 1.5x on the fz1000's optical. AND since the 1k has more pixels peeping at 100% is even more magnification., still the 1k always wins.There is a litle trick
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3808624
But for common moon shooting, consider manual exposure mode, RAW, burst mode as there are masses and masses of cold and hot air whirling between you and the space. So from 30 exposures you can obtain 20 or 5 great shots or nothing. Best time is at night around 3-4 am. And manual focusing is a must have setting...I had very badly focused moon shots with AF. Its also about lucky. 2 days ago I couldnt make a shar moon photo because of air whirling. I saw it throught EVF like air dancing
yet to me it seems the 200 still has a sharper feel to it in causal use. IDK maybe it's something about the higher dynamic range that makes it appear naturally softer.
and guess part of that is I've had a long time get good photos from the 200 and about zero opportunity with the 1k.
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Hi RandTX,
The blotches you have noted are a result of the chrominance noise reduction of this camera. Unfortunately, the FZ1000's chroma noise reduction cannot be reduced (photo style NR setting affects luminance noise only), the only way to avoid these blotches is to shoot RAW. Silkypix will reproduce these artifacts if turning up "false color control" too high.
more info in this thread:
The blotches you have noted are a result of the chrominance noise reduction of this camera. Unfortunately, the FZ1000's chroma noise reduction cannot be reduced (photo style NR setting affects luminance noise only), the only way to avoid these blotches is to shoot RAW. Silkypix will reproduce these artifacts if turning up "false color control" too high.
more info in this thread:
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interesting thanks
I was looking around for something else and found this old one from the fz200, and and guess really since that has 50% more optical zoom maybe I shouldn't expect any better even if the 1k sensor is better IDK
but this is sooc with the fz200 vs everything everything I'm doing from the 1K is highly post processed
FZ200 moon shot Dec 22 2012 SOOC
that's pretty good, I don't find the little bit of noise objectionable at full size. certainly less noise and better than my first attempts lol. nice exposure and contrast level too.Another opportunity...
from 34 exposures...
I almost shot the same last night but high clouds were still around.
Funny how exposures you can click off on round ball in the sky isn't it? lol
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Very impressive detail. I believe that it was done using super-resolution techniques discussed in this thread:that's pretty good, I don't find the little bit of noise objectionable at full size. certainly less noise and better than my first attempts lol. nice exposure and contrast level too.Another opportunity...
from 34 exposures...
I almost shot the same last night but high clouds were still around.
Funny how exposures you can click off on round ball in the sky isn't it? lol
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you guys.. first raw, then this super resolution stuff lolSure it was
no I resisted the urge to just list the camera on ebay lol.any problem
my last moon attempt here.. i have given up using the fZ1000 and use my Panasonic G6 and 100-300mm lens.. it does a slightly better job..
a massively over processed OOC jpeg.. the 100-300 gives a 600mm 16 mp size equivalent to crop and tweak at..
G6 100-300 moon shot
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a massively over processed OOC jpeg.. the 100-300 gives a 600mm 16 mp size equivalent to crop and tweak at..
G6 100-300 moon shot
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I have a love hate affair with this camera lol
Video I'm really warming up to, but my photo results are generally disappointing me.
as such in video I'm generally pleasantly surprised to be getting better results than expectations. love the 4K captures.. now NEED the 4k captures, can't live without them sort of NEED lol
but in photos.. IDK.. I'm seldom pleasantly surprised with my results, as such I've lost that warm fuzzy feeling shooting photos that things are going to turn out well when I get em back on the computer. fortunately most of the photos are just goofing around for musement and tests so no big deal if I shove them in the trash can by the gigabyte... lol and maybe down the road the photo side of the camera will somehow come around and excite me the way the video side can.
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