D750 banding - questions

[davikabo]

I did exacly that. Just for curiosity, I will do the same today in the Florida sun. Indoors, I didn't even use a hood. I jave my hoods packed and will be experimenting on my lunch hour. The forecast in Orlando is cold, (63 degrees), but full sun. I have been reading these threads for 10 days now. I'm sure my testing procedures are correct.

I will spend an hour to try and create this issue and then that's it. I will report back and then it's happy shooting!!!

 

[primeshooter]

I've gotten a photo with flare not blocked at the top. If you are a person who likes to put flare in your image you have to be aware of this issue with the D750. Aware of this issue you can work around it. A circular polarizing filter will also fix the issue. I recommend a CP filter for taking photos in bright sunlight.

Put another way: It's important that you know about this issue but once you know about it it's not important.


I saw the blocked flare in another photo I took and tilted the camera a little to get this one.

This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras. Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

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>> This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras.

There is an issue. I acknowledge it.

>>Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, ...

The pictures show that when there is too much flare some of the flare is blocked.

>>a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this,

It would be better if the blocked flare was there so we could debate how to take better pictures with and without flare...

>>, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

You have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't work for me. I sold a D700 and a film scanner to buy my D750. I am not going to return it because it can't handle too much flare, design flaw or no. As the test picture I included shows, I can introduce flare into the picture without the issue. If I want to introduce more flare I can use a circular polarizing filter. I can make the D750 do everything I want to do with flare. If I returned the D750 I would not have any camera, and that would be a lot worse.

Damn, after my idiot SWAGs I thought I was done.

Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject. Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc? Those photos would be ruined by this camera as instead of a nice flare behind them you would get this issue showing up every second shot.

So for nikon to produce a camera that is meant to be all singing all dancing that does this, doesn't fly with me. You want to work round it and that's fine. But many users, myself included, want camera's to work for them, not against them. There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem. Get it fixed...

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[sgoldswo]

I've gotten a photo with flare not blocked at the top. If you are a person who likes to put flare in your image you have to be aware of this issue with the D750. Aware of this issue you can work around it. A circular polarizing filter will also fix the issue. I recommend a CP filter for taking photos in bright sunlight.

Put another way: It's important that you know about this issue but once you know about it it's not important.


I saw the blocked flare in another photo I took and tilted the camera a little to get this one.

This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras. Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

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>> This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras.

There is an issue. I acknowledge it.

>>Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, ...

The pictures show that when there is too much flare some of the flare is blocked.

>>a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this,

It would be better if the blocked flare was there so we could debate how to take better pictures with and without flare...

>>, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

You have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't work for me. I sold a D700 and a film scanner to buy my D750. I am not going to return it because it can't handle too much flare, design flaw or no. As the test picture I included shows, I can introduce flare into the picture without the issue. If I want to introduce more flare I can use a circular polarizing filter. I can make the D750 do everything I want to do with flare. If I returned the D750 I would not have any camera, and that would be a lot worse.

Damn, after my idiot SWAGs I thought I was done.

See Nikon love's user's like yourself for obvious reason. Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject. Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc? Those photos would be ruined by this camera as instead of a nice flare behind them you would get this issue showing up every second shot.

So for nikon to produce a camera that is meant to be all singing all dancing that does this, doesn't fly with me. You want to work round it and that's fine. But many users, myself included, want camera's to work for them, not against them. There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem. Get it fixed...

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I must have shot hundreds of shots with backlighting like you describe - I'm not seeing any banding. In any of the results. I can't make this happen by pointing the camera at a light source either. I'm probably "not doing it right"

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[primeshooter]

I've gotten a photo with flare not blocked at the top. If you are a person who likes to put flare in your image you have to be aware of this issue with the D750. Aware of this issue you can work around it. A circular polarizing filter will also fix the issue. I recommend a CP filter for taking photos in bright sunlight.

Put another way: It's important that you know about this issue but once you know about it it's not important.


I saw the blocked flare in another photo I took and tilted the camera a little to get this one.

This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras. Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

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>> This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras.

There is an issue. I acknowledge it.

>>Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, ...

The pictures show that when there is too much flare some of the flare is blocked.

>>a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this,

It would be better if the blocked flare was there so we could debate how to take better pictures with and without flare...

>>, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

You have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't work for me. I sold a D700 and a film scanner to buy my D750. I am not going to return it because it can't handle too much flare, design flaw or no. As the test picture I included shows, I can introduce flare into the picture without the issue. If I want to introduce more flare I can use a circular polarizing filter. I can make the D750 do everything I want to do with flare. If I returned the D750 I would not have any camera, and that would be a lot worse.

Damn, after my idiot SWAGs I thought I was done.

Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject. Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc? Those photos would be ruined by this camera as instead of a nice flare behind them you would get this issue showing up every second shot.

So for nikon to produce a camera that is meant to be all singing all dancing that does this, doesn't fly with me. You want to work round it and that's fine. But many users, myself included, want camera's to work for them, not against them. There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem. Get it fixed...

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I must have shot hundreds of shots with backlighting like you describe - I'm not seeing any banding. In any of the results. I can't make this happen by pointing the camera at a light source either. I'm probably "not doing it right"

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[mrjpack]

I've gotten a photo with flare not blocked at the top. If you are a person who likes to put flare in your image you have to be aware of this issue with the D750. Aware of this issue you can work around it. A circular polarizing filter will also fix the issue. I recommend a CP filter for taking photos in bright sunlight.

Put another way: It's important that you know about this issue but once you know about it it's not important.


I saw the blocked flare in another photo I took and tilted the camera a little to get this one.

This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras. Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

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>> This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras.

There is an issue. I acknowledge it.

>>Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, ...

The pictures show that when there is too much flare some of the flare is blocked.

>>a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this,

It would be better if the blocked flare was there so we could debate how to take better pictures with and without flare...

>>, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

You have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't work for me. I sold a D700 and a film scanner to buy my D750. I am not going to return it because it can't handle too much flare, design flaw or no. As the test picture I included shows, I can introduce flare into the picture without the issue. If I want to introduce more flare I can use a circular polarizing filter. I can make the D750 do everything I want to do with flare. If I returned the D750 I would not have any camera, and that would be a lot worse.

Damn, after my idiot SWAGs I thought I was done.

See Nikon love's user's like yourself for obvious reason. Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject. Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc? Those photos would be ruined by this camera as instead of a nice flare behind them you would get this issue showing up every second shot.

So for nikon to produce a camera that is meant to be all singing all dancing that does this, doesn't fly with me. You want to work round it and that's fine. But many users, myself included, want camera's to work for them, not against them. There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem. Get it fixed...

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Wrong, the sun behind the head would not be ruined by this camera, the sun would have to be out of the frame. We still have not seen a single photo from a wedding photographer that was ruined by this phenomenon. The shots that were posted were garbage to begin with & could have been fixed in post or cropped if they weren't. The issue is there, it does exist, in almost all the cases that have been shown, the flare was so over the top the shots weren't usable or were just provoked by people showing what you can do. It's not a band, its not banding, it's an abscess of flare obviously blocked by some edge in the mirror box. It's something to be aware of, but not anything else...

 

[sgoldswo]

I've gotten a photo with flare not blocked at the top. If you are a person who likes to put flare in your image you have to be aware of this issue with the D750. Aware of this issue you can work around it. A circular polarizing filter will also fix the issue. I recommend a CP filter for taking photos in bright sunlight.

Put another way: It's important that you know about this issue but once you know about it it's not important.


I saw the blocked flare in another photo I took and tilted the camera a little to get this one.

This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras. Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

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>> This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras.

There is an issue. I acknowledge it.

>>Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, ...

The pictures show that when there is too much flare some of the flare is blocked.

>>a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this,

It would be better if the blocked flare was there so we could debate how to take better pictures with and without flare...

>>, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

You have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't work for me. I sold a D700 and a film scanner to buy my D750. I am not going to return it because it can't handle too much flare, design flaw or no. As the test picture I included shows, I can introduce flare into the picture without the issue. If I want to introduce more flare I can use a circular polarizing filter. I can make the D750 do everything I want to do with flare. If I returned the D750 I would not have any camera, and that would be a lot worse.

Damn, after my idiot SWAGs I thought I was done.

Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject. Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc? Those photos would be ruined by this camera as instead of a nice flare behind them you would get this issue showing up every second shot.

So for nikon to produce a camera that is meant to be all singing all dancing that does this, doesn't fly with me. You want to work round it and that's fine. But many users, myself included, want camera's to work for them, not against them. There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem. Get it fixed...

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I must have shot hundreds of shots with backlighting like you describe - I'm not seeing any banding. In any of the results. I can't make this happen by pointing the camera at a light source either. I'm probably "not doing it right"

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Actually rather a lot of people on this forum and elsewhere have said every camera has the "problem". That's why there is another thread largely lampooning this one on the board right now. The "problem" is quite a lot of people are reporting they aren't finding anything in actual use.

To my mind, if you aren't happy, just return the camera or exchange it. Where did you buy it from?

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[chuxter]

I love your term "abscess of flare"! Excellent use of the English language, sir.

 

[davikabo]

Sorry folks. I can't make it happen.

D750
Live view, panning towards super bright sun
Nikkor 35mm 1.8g FX
Nikkor 50mm 1.4g FX
Nikkor 85mm 1.8g FX
No hoods
No filters
.....Gajigulator at full power
I feel like such a failure.
I will now take it upon myself to unsubscribe from these band/flare threads.

David

 

[greenpoe]

I've gotten a photo with flare not blocked at the top. If you are a person who likes to put flare in your image you have to be aware of this issue with the D750. Aware of this issue you can work around it. A circular polarizing filter will also fix the issue. I recommend a CP filter for taking photos in bright sunlight.

Put another way: It's important that you know about this issue but once you know about it it's not important.


I saw the blocked flare in another photo I took and tilted the camera a little to get this one.

This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras. Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

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>> This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras.

There is an issue. I acknowledge it.

>>Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, ...

The pictures show that when there is too much flare some of the flare is blocked.

>>a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this,

It would be better if the blocked flare was there so we could debate how to take better pictures with and without flare...

>>, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

You have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't work for me. I sold a D700 and a film scanner to buy my D750. I am not going to return it because it can't handle too much flare, design flaw or no. As the test picture I included shows, I can introduce flare into the picture without the issue. If I want to introduce more flare I can use a circular polarizing filter. I can make the D750 do everything I want to do with flare. If I returned the D750 I would not have any camera, and that would be a lot worse.

Damn, after my idiot SWAGs I thought I was done.

Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject. Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc? Those photos would be ruined by this camera as instead of a nice flare behind them you would get this issue showing up every second shot.

So for nikon to produce a camera that is meant to be all singing all dancing that does this, doesn't fly with me. You want to work round it and that's fine. But many users, myself included, want camera's to work for them, not against them. There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem. Get it fixed...

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>> Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject.

Agree.

>>Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc?

As pointed out below, keeping sun behind the wedding couple's heads does not cause this issue. Those photos would not be ruined.

>>There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem.

I don't agree it's a pretty basic backlight situation that causes this issue. You have to introduce a horrendous amount of flare to see it. You may not realize that when you look at the examples, because the brightest part of the flare appears blocked.

>> Get it fixed...

There's no getting it fixed because it's not a QC issue.

It's utterly ridiculous for you, or me, to tell people what to do beyond, if you have a D750, investigate this and if you can live with it, or work around it (i.e., tilt the camera a little), keep it, otherwise return it.

 

[primeshooter]

I've gotten a photo with flare not blocked at the top. If you are a person who likes to put flare in your image you have to be aware of this issue with the D750. Aware of this issue you can work around it. A circular polarizing filter will also fix the issue. I recommend a CP filter for taking photos in bright sunlight.

Put another way: It's important that you know about this issue but once you know about it it's not important.


I saw the blocked flare in another photo I took and tilted the camera a little to get this one.

This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras. Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

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>> This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras.

There is an issue. I acknowledge it.

>>Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, ...

The pictures show that when there is too much flare some of the flare is blocked.

>>a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this,

It would be better if the blocked flare was there so we could debate how to take better pictures with and without flare...

>>, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

You have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't work for me. I sold a D700 and a film scanner to buy my D750. I am not going to return it because it can't handle too much flare, design flaw or no. As the test picture I included shows, I can introduce flare into the picture without the issue. If I want to introduce more flare I can use a circular polarizing filter. I can make the D750 do everything I want to do with flare. If I returned the D750 I would not have any camera, and that would be a lot worse.

Damn, after my idiot SWAGs I thought I was done.

See Nikon love's user's like yourself for obvious reason. Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject. Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc? Those photos would be ruined by this camera as instead of a nice flare behind them you would get this issue showing up every second shot.

So for nikon to produce a camera that is meant to be all singing all dancing that does this, doesn't fly with me. You want to work round it and that's fine. But many users, myself included, want camera's to work for them, not against them. There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem. Get it fixed...

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Wrong, the sun behind the head would not be ruined by this camera, the sun would have to be out of the frame. We still have not seen a single photo from a wedding photographer that was ruined by this phenomenon. The shots that were posted were garbage to begin with & could have been fixed in post or cropped if they weren't. The issue is there, it does exist, in almost all the cases that have been shown, the flare was so over the top the shots weren't usable or were just provoked by people showing what you can do. It's not a band, its not banding, it's an abscess of flare obviously blocked by some edge in the mirror box. It's something to be aware of, but not anything else...

Yes - behind their heads out of the frame - this does happen on a wedding day you know! The point remains that it shouldn't be happening with a semi professional DSLR and it is a fault. Doesn't matter if the shots you have seen that had it where crap, completely irrelevant. Many people have DSLRs could be just starting out and not be great at picture taking yet but it's besides the point, they should be able to have a fully functioning unit without daft flaws like this flare issue. Everyone starts somewhere.

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[primeshooter]

I've gotten a photo with flare not blocked at the top. If you are a person who likes to put flare in your image you have to be aware of this issue with the D750. Aware of this issue you can work around it. A circular polarizing filter will also fix the issue. I recommend a CP filter for taking photos in bright sunlight.

Put another way: It's important that you know about this issue but once you know about it it's not important.


I saw the blocked flare in another photo I took and tilted the camera a little to get this one.

This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras. Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

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>> This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras.

There is an issue. I acknowledge it.

>>Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, ...

The pictures show that when there is too much flare some of the flare is blocked.

>>a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this,

It would be better if the blocked flare was there so we could debate how to take better pictures with and without flare...

>>, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

You have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't work for me. I sold a D700 and a film scanner to buy my D750. I am not going to return it because it can't handle too much flare, design flaw or no. As the test picture I included shows, I can introduce flare into the picture without the issue. If I want to introduce more flare I can use a circular polarizing filter. I can make the D750 do everything I want to do with flare. If I returned the D750 I would not have any camera, and that would be a lot worse.

Damn, after my idiot SWAGs I thought I was done.

Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject. Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc? Those photos would be ruined by this camera as instead of a nice flare behind them you would get this issue showing up every second shot.

So for nikon to produce a camera that is meant to be all singing all dancing that does this, doesn't fly with me. You want to work round it and that's fine. But many users, myself included, want camera's to work for them, not against them. There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem. Get it fixed...

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>> Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject.

Agree.

>>Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc?

As pointed out below, keeping sun behind the wedding couple's heads does not cause this issue. Those photos would not be ruined.

Come on! On a wedding day I get plenty of shots where the sun is behind them. I didn't mean it has to be physically behind their head. Behind them as in behind them, up in the sky generally.

>>There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem.

I don't agree it's a pretty basic backlight situation that causes this issue. You have to introduce a horrendous amount of flare to see it. You may not realize that when you look at the examples, because the brightest part of the flare appears blocked.

>> Get it fixed...

There's no getting it fixed because it's not a QC issue.

It's utterly ridiculous for you, or me, to tell people what to do beyond, if you have a D750, investigate this and if you can live with it, or work around it (i.e., tilt the camera a little), keep it, otherwise return it.

I don't see it as ridiculous. Someone has to hold nikon's feet to the fire over this stuff, they wonder why their once sterling rep is in tatters. Wake up.

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I call BS. You always like whning on Nikon cameras. This has only be produced on a handful of pictures in the wild. less than five. four to be exact. All the others are induced by stressing the camera to an unreasonable amount. Doing the same to other Nikons and brands showed the same NON issue.

 

[primeshooter]

I call BS. You always like whning on Nikon cameras. This has only be produced on a handful of pictures in the wild. less than five. four to be exact. All the others are induced by stressing the camera to an unreasonable amount. Doing the same to other Nikons and brands showed the same NON issue.

No, I am just objective enough not to be a fanboy like yourself evidently. Did you deny the left AF issue too? What about the dust problem on the D600? A non issue then yeh? Or the 10 pin socket problem with the early batches of the D800s? No smoke without fire...i'll bet something comes to light about this in time, nikon are slow to respond to anything these day's and it's hurt them in the past. I'll hold their feet to the fire over stuff, even if the fanboys won't. Camera is just a tool afterall...

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[greenpoe]

I've gotten a photo with flare not blocked at the top. If you are a person who likes to put flare in your image you have to be aware of this issue with the D750. Aware of this issue you can work around it. A circular polarizing filter will also fix the issue. I recommend a CP filter for taking photos in bright sunlight.

Put another way: It's important that you know about this issue but once you know about it it's not important.


I saw the blocked flare in another photo I took and tilted the camera a little to get this one.

This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras. Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

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>> This forum is full of people who fail to acknowledge actual issues with Nikon cameras.

There is an issue. I acknowledge it.

>>Have a look at some of the pictures people are posting in this thread, ...

The pictures show that when there is too much flare some of the flare is blocked.

>>a camera of this price (of any price) should not do this,

It would be better if the blocked flare was there so we could debate how to take better pictures with and without flare...

>>, it's a design failure, end of. I'd ask for money back.

You have a right to your opinion, but it doesn't work for me. I sold a D700 and a film scanner to buy my D750. I am not going to return it because it can't handle too much flare, design flaw or no. As the test picture I included shows, I can introduce flare into the picture without the issue. If I want to introduce more flare I can use a circular polarizing filter. I can make the D750 do everything I want to do with flare. If I returned the D750 I would not have any camera, and that would be a lot worse.

Damn, after my idiot SWAGs I thought I was done.

Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject. Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc? Those photos would be ruined by this camera as instead of a nice flare behind them you would get this issue showing up every second shot.

So for nikon to produce a camera that is meant to be all singing all dancing that does this, doesn't fly with me. You want to work round it and that's fine. But many users, myself included, want camera's to work for them, not against them. There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem. Get it fixed...

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>> Simple fact is many of us shoot in backlight, all the time, it can actually be very flattering to a subject.

Agree.

>>Have you ever shot a wedding in the midday sun - 3pm in the afternoon? How about the fact that to make light acceptable at those times you must keep the sun behind their heads to prevent awful highlights on their faces etc?

As pointed out below, keeping sun behind the wedding couple's heads does not cause this issue. Those photos would not be ruined.

Come on! On a wedding day I get plenty of shots where the sun is behind them. I didn't mean it has to be physically behind their head. Behind them as in behind them, up in the sky generally.

>>There shouldn't be situations - pretty basic backlight situations, that you should fear because of a camera with a problem.

I don't agree it's a pretty basic backlight situation that causes this issue. You have to introduce a horrendous amount of flare to see it. You may not realize that when you look at the examples, because the brightest part of the flare appears blocked.

>> Get it fixed...

There's no getting it fixed because it's not a QC issue.

It's utterly ridiculous for you, or me, to tell people what to do beyond, if you have a D750, investigate this and if you can live with it, or work around it (i.e., tilt the camera a little), keep it, otherwise return it.

I don't see it as ridiculous. Someone has to hold nikon's feet to the fire over this stuff, they wonder why their once sterling rep is in tatters. Wake up.

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>>Come on! On a wedding day I get plenty of shots where the sun is behind them. I didn't mean it has to be physically behind their head. Behind them as in behind them, up in the sky generally.

Up in the sky generally will not cause this issue. I should be more clear:

1. A bright light source, like the sun.

2. Enough contrast, like a deep blue sky with clouds, or a dark room.

3 Stop aperture down

4. Point the lens at a specific angle below the light.

>> I don't see it as ridiculous. Someone has to hold nikon's feet to the fire over this stuff, they wonder why their once sterling rep is in tatters. Wake up.

I'm all for letting everyone know about this and for contacting Nikon and asking what's up with this? Can you do something about it? Other than that you're free to buy some other camera. More awake I cannot be.

 

[chuxter]

The only way to get Nikon's attention is to return the D750 and tell them why. Even if you are completely wrong, it will get their attention.

If they conclude that it's a bogus issue [like most of us think it is] then they are free to ignore it, which is what they are doing so far. Nikon is quite good at ignoring customers when they think they are being unreasonable. If I controlled Nikon, I would ignore this issue because I don't believe it exists to an extent that I should address it.

If we as a group want to make Nikon more responsive to problems, then we should be less reactive when some issue pops up. They think we are all screaming "FIRE" when there is only fog!

The only way to approach these type issues is to be totally objective: Facts and Data don't lie! But the vast majority of posts are silly, emotional rants. The data they supply only make objective people ask questions.

 

[primeshooter]

The only way to get Nikon's attention is to return the D750 and tell them why. Even if you are completely wrong, it will get their attention.

If they conclude that it's a bogus issue [like most of us think it is] then they are free to ignore it, which is what they are doing so far. Nikon is quite good at ignoring customers when they think they are being unreasonable. If I controlled Nikon, I would ignore this issue because I don't believe it exists to an extent that I should address it.

If we as a group want to make Nikon more responsive to problems, then we should be less reactive when some issue pops up. They think we are all screaming "FIRE" when there is only fog!

The only way to approach these type issues is to be totally objective: Facts and Data don't lie! But the vast majority of posts are silly, emotional rants. The data they supply only make objective people ask questions.

You think it's bogus based on what? Did you think the same way about nikon's other multitude of recent stupid moments? People have such short memory. D600 dust fiasco, D800 left AF issue (and general AF issues). Quality problems with the D800 (I myself had two which had broken 10 pin terminals with light usage).

I'm having a hard time imaging a more problematic Nikon than we have at present but with you as CEO it might just happen. It is the responsibility of any company to ensure their product works and be proactive, or else tomorrow they may not be here. When people get issues in this day and age with a camera they post photos and come onto the forum. I will assume many are doing this and popping their camera in a box to nikon as well, just because they haven't told you all about it doesn't mean they haven't.

Objective? I think holding a camera up to the sun/sun off camera like the pictures I have seen is proof of the issue - an issue which should not exist might I add, whether you shoot in that specific light or not; unless of course we are dealing with people actually making up an issue which of late I have not seen and will give them the benefit of the doubt. Nikon hasn't released a camera in my recent memory without some sort of random problem or issue, so it doesn't bode well.

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[chuxter]

The only way to get Nikon's attention is to return the D750 and tell them why. Even if you are completely wrong, it will get their attention.

If they conclude that it's a bogus issue [like most of us think it is] then they are free to ignore it, which is what they are doing so far. Nikon is quite good at ignoring customers when they think they are being unreasonable. If I controlled Nikon, I would ignore this issue because I don't believe it exists to an extent that I should address it.

If we as a group want to make Nikon more responsive to problems, then we should be less reactive when some issue pops up. They think we are all screaming "FIRE" when there is only fog!

The only way to approach these type issues is to be totally objective: Facts and Data don't lie! But the vast majority of posts are silly, emotional rants. The data they supply only make objective people ask questions.

You think it's bogus based on what?

• Looking at the vast numbers of posts proclaiming to have found the latest Nikon error
• Determining that most were written be people who had no clue
• Logical analysis of MY Nikon dSLRs in this regard
• Discussing the probable cause with the few level heads on DPR

Did you think the same way about nikon's other multitude of recent stupid moments? People have such short memory. D600 dust fiasco, D800 left AF issue (and general AF issues). Quality problems with the D800 (I myself had two which had broken 10 pin terminals with light usage).

I have a reasonable memory for my age.

I think there is a vast difference between design issue like the D600 "oil" and the D800 AF compared w/ an issue with a specific connector [which is a QC problem, not a design problem AFAIK].

Some people should not be asked to plug in connectors! I had an employee once who was great except he was insesnsitive using small tools. I quickly learned that he could never tap a small hole [say 4-40] in a piece of Aluminum. He broke off 100% of the small taps! It was better to just do it myself, because I was the one who knew how to remove the broken taps. Give him a big tap [say 1/4-20] and he was good. No amount of explaining and demonstrating every got him over this barrier.

I'm having a hard time imaging a more problematic Nikon than we have at present but with you as CEO it might just happen.

Actually, I would be a great CEO.

It is the responsibility of any company to ensure their product works and be proactive, or else tomorrow they may not be here.

I very much agree that Nikon is not proactive enough. I also agree that their customer service sux.

When people get issues in this day and age with a camera they post photos and come onto the forum. I will assume many are doing this and popping their camera in a box to nikon as well, just because they haven't told you all about it doesn't mean they haven't.

That's true. I hope they did that. The ONLY way to get the attention of a big corporation is to affect their bottom line.

Objective? I think holding a camera up to the sun/sun off camera like the pictures I have seen is proof of the issue - an issue which should not exist might I add, whether you shoot in that specific light or not; unless of course we are dealing with people actually making up an issue which of late I have not seen and will give them the benefit of the doubt.

I don't think you know what "objective" means.

Nikon hasn't released a camera in my recent memory without some sort of random problem or issue, so it doesn't bode well.

I have not seen a DPR forum of and about any camera that doesn't "create" problems and then go off on a tangent to reality. This is the way humans are.

I recently went through the D810 white spot "problem". I took hundreds of pictures. I posted the results dozens of times. It was soon obvious to me that well-meaning, but poorly educated owners were applying VERY HEAVY processing in PS in order that we might see those white spots. Yep, I could do the same processing and see spots. But I didn't normally increase the gain, contrast, saturation, etc as much as was necessary to make the white spots visible.

I finally sent my camera in to Nikon [LA] and got it"fixed". It now works exactly as it did before I sent it in. But I have paperwork to prove that it's OK. As far as I am concerned, Nikon could have just made the firmware upgrade available over the Internet and send the paperwork to everyone who downloaded it. That would have saved me $90+ for shipping and insurance.

 

[sgoldswo]

I call BS. You always like whning on Nikon cameras. This has only be produced on a handful of pictures in the wild. less than five. four to be exact. All the others are induced by stressing the camera to an unreasonable amount. Doing the same to other Nikons and brands showed the same NON issue.

No, I am just objective enough not to be a fanboy like yourself evidently. Did you deny the left AF issue too? What about the dust problem on the D600? A non issue then yeh? Or the 10 pin socket problem with the early batches of the D800s? No smoke without fire...i'll bet something comes to light about this in time, nikon are slow to respond to anything these day's and it's hurt them in the past. I'll hold their feet to the fire over stuff, even if the fanboys won't. Camera is just a tool afterall...

 

[primeshooter]

I call BS. You always like whning on Nikon cameras. This has only be produced on a handful of pictures in the wild. less than five. four to be exact. All the others are induced by stressing the camera to an unreasonable amount. Doing the same to other Nikons and brands showed the same NON issue.

No, I am just objective enough not to be a fanboy like yourself evidently. Did you deny the left AF issue too? What about the dust problem on the D600? A non issue then yeh? Or the 10 pin socket problem with the early batches of the D800s? No smoke without fire...i'll bet something comes to light about this in time, nikon are slow to respond to anything these day's and it's hurt them in the past. I'll hold their feet to the fire over stuff, even if the fanboys won't. Camera is just a tool afterall...

 

[Rick_Hunter]

what about a new camera?I hear there's a great offer on Leica M9's right now...