Panasonic G5 Live View Preview

[Kim Letkeman]

Nope, they are not. In. M mode it might work, which I never use. For other modes a button needs to be pressed and hold which is not the same.

Sorry, but when you dial the compensation in A, S or P modes, the LCD on all of these cameras does reflect the changes you are asking for in the exposure.

It is M mode where you must use the button ...

 

[d3xmeister]

Nope, they are not. In. M mode it might work, which I never use. For other modes a button needs to be pressed and hold which is not the same.

Sorry, but when you dial the compensation in A, S or P modes, the LCD on all of these cameras does reflect the changes you are asking for in the exposure.

It is M mode where you must use the button ...

 

[Kim Letkeman]

Nope, they are not. In. M mode it might work, which I never use. For other modes a button needs to be pressed and hold which is not the same.

Sorry, but when you dial the compensation in A, S or P modes, the LCD on all of these cameras does reflect the changes you are asking for in the exposure.

It is M mode where you must use the button ...

 

[d3xmeister]

Nope, they are not. In. M mode it might work, which I never use. For other modes a button needs to be pressed and hold which is not the same.

Sorry, but when you dial the compensation in A, S or P modes, the LCD on all of these cameras does reflect the changes you are asking for in the exposure.

It is M mode where you must use the button ...

 

[Tidewater]

Nope, they are not. In. M mode it might work, which I never use. For other modes a button needs to be pressed and hold which is not the same.

Sorry, but when you dial the compensation in A, S or P modes, the LCD on all of these cameras does reflect the changes you are asking for in the exposure.

It is M mode where you must use the button ...

 

[d3xmeister]

I probably was in AutoISO because I use it a lot. But it should reflect exposure compensation in AutoISO.

 

[Tidewater]

I probably was in AutoISO because I use it a lot. But it should reflect exposure compensation in AutoISO.

Yes you would see the ISO number in the VF/EV change while the picture would remain exactly the same. If you were in S mode for example it would change the shutter speed but nothing would happen to the exposure because the camera is trying to just change the SS for you and letting the Auto ISO compensate. In P mode you are basically performing a new Program shift which is covered in the manual.

If you use the menu to set the function lever to Exposure, and you used the function lever it would act as an EV adjustment and you would see the picture and the meter change. It is quite quick and easy even for action. Changing SS would also show change in brightness with Function lever set to Exposure..

It is a nice feature with any mirrorless. Optical VF with a mirror on the other hand never blacks out during action bursts so enjoy what you have.

 

[alcelc]

I probably was in AutoISO because I use it a lot. But it should reflect exposure compensation in AutoISO.

Dear Tidewater, is here some mis-understanding? What Kim and I said so far was regarding the live preview under P/S/A/iA mode when adjust Exposure Compensation, i.e. +/- ev. In fact, no matter under Auto ISO or manual ISO, all panny bodies react in same manner.

Yes you would see the ISO number in the VF/EV change while the picture would remain exactly the same. If you were in S mode for example it would change the shutter speed but nothing would happen to the exposure because the camera is trying to just change the SS for you and letting the Auto ISO compensate. In P mode you are basically performing a new Program shift which is covered in the manual.

No matter under which automatic mode (P/A/S/iA+), when user set a perimeter (e.g., aperture value under A mode), the camera would set a corresponding Shutter speed (also ISO if auto ISO was used) in order to have proper exposure according to the camera's A.I. At that moment the camera could treat it as +/- 0ev. Of course a well lit screen could be seen in evf/LCD unless it would be out of your camera's range and it would blink and turn red alert. When you made any further change on your part, the camera would keep on suggesting a corresponding setting leading the overall exposure to +/-0ev. It is why the preview would show no change at all no matter what you changed!

Under M mode, as we have to change both 3 perimeters (S, A and ISO), the +/-ev preview function no longer be appropriate and had to be replaced by the Shutter Effect/Aperture Preview Effect (or called "Constant Preview" for GX7 and later models).

If you use the menu to set the function lever to Exposure, and you used the function lever it would act as an EV adjustment and you would see the picture and the meter change. It is quite quick and easy even for action. Changing SS would also show change in brightness with Function lever set to Exposure..

It is the live preview that we were discussing and trying to clear any possible misunderstanding of d3xmeister on G6. However, same as Kim, we were very happy d3xmeister could enjoy his GH4 and GX7 that are all great gears.

It is a nice feature with any mirrorless. Optical VF with a mirror on the other hand never blacks out during action bursts so enjoy what you have.

 

[Kim Letkeman]

Nope, they are not. In. M mode it might work, which I never use. For other modes a button needs to be pressed and hold which is not the same.

Sorry, but when you dial the compensation in A, S or P modes, the LCD on all of these cameras does reflect the changes you are asking for in the exposure.

It is M mode where you must use the button ...

 

[Kim Letkeman]

I probably was in AutoISO because I use it a lot. But it should reflect exposure compensation in AutoISO.

Good grief ... you responded to a post in which I already answered that ... it does reflect compensation in P mode with auto ISO enabled ...

Compensation affects the total exposure, so P, A and S modes work identically where this feature is concerned.

 

[Kim Letkeman]

I probably was in AutoISO because I use it a lot. But it should reflect exposure compensation in AutoISO.

Yes you would see the ISO number in the VF/EV change while the picture would remain exactly the same. If you were in S mode for example it would change the shutter speed but nothing would happen to the exposure because the camera is trying to just change the SS for you and letting the Auto ISO compensate. In P mode you are basically performing a new Program shift which is covered in the manual.

The OP has already said once or twice that he does not see it when compensation is changed, which of course can be via the dial or the toggle if the toggle is set to exposure.

So in P, A, and S modes the compensation dial affects the total exposure as calculated by the usual algorithms that the camera implements to correctly balance A, S and ISO as set and according to the mode.

Thus ... they all reflect the exposure in both the EVF and the LCD when compensation is set ...

Now, it does seem like the OP continues to flit back and forth between issues and settings, which indicates to me a lack of clarity on how these features are meant to work, which makes this thread an exercise in repetition

If you use the menu to set the function lever to Exposure, and you used the function lever it would act as an EV adjustment and you would see the picture and the meter change. It is quite quick and easy even for action. Changing SS would also show change in brightness with Function lever set to Exposure..

It is a nice feature with any mirrorless. Optical VF with a mirror on the other hand never blacks out during action bursts so enjoy what you have.

Optical VF blacks out whenever the mirror lifts for an exposure ...

That's why serious cameras like the D2Hs were so prized ... less than 30ms blackout for each exposure if I recall ... amazing to shoot something like that while following an animal. On the other hand, many entry bodies black out for an annoying 100ms or more ...

 

[Kim Letkeman]

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[Tidewater]

I shoot quite a few BIFs and I normally use a Nikon which to me is awesome for getting and holding focus. I am new to M43 in an effort to reduce weight. With m43 for Bifs I am able to adjust exposure even as they fly by (they are often backlit). The best part of course is that the results can be seen in the vf. I thought I could explain it to others in the forum who seemed to miss this basic feature, and get something going, so we could all learn. I think that happened with help from you and others in spite of some semantic confusion for which I may be to blame.

 

[Kim Letkeman]

I shoot quite a few BIFs and I normally use a Nikon which to me is awesome for getting and holding focus. I am new to M43 in an effort to reduce weight. With m43 for Bifs I am able to adjust exposure even as they fly by (they are often backlit). The best part of course is that the results can be seen in the vf. I thought I could explain it to others in the forum who seemed to miss this basic feature, and get something going, so we could all learn. I think that happened with help from you and others in spite of some semantic confusion for which I may be to blame.

Yes, BIF would be a good place to use the feature since you will want to spin the dial to expose the body more (assuming you can maintain a decent shutter speed) ...

But I am curious as to how m4/3 works in general ... I suppose you would be using a gimbal to support physical tracking of the bird ... so how does m4/3 stack up when following a flying bird? Do you need the EM1 or GH4 to get enough speed of AF?

 

[Tidewater]

But I am curious as to how m4/3 works in general ... I suppose you would be using a gimbal to support physical tracking of the bird ... so how does m4/3 stack up when following a flying bird? Do you need the EM1 or GH4 to get enough speed of AF?

 

[Kim Letkeman]

But I am curious as to how m4/3 works in general ... I suppose you would be using a gimbal to support physical tracking of the bird ... so how does m4/3 stack up when following a flying bird? Do you need the EM1 or GH4 to get enough speed of AF?

 

[Tidewater]

Yes I must say I recognized that early on. Pro-camera performance for under a grand. Well I had one a while back, for a little while and I gave up on it. Now with that new lens it looks good again.

 

[Kim Letkeman]

Yes I must say I recognized that early on. Pro-camera performance for under a grand. Well I had one a while back, for a little while and I gave up on it. Now with that new lens it looks good again.

I too dumped it in favour of m4/3. I wanted a system and have been totally satisfied.

But the Nikon 1 keeps niggling at me ... the performance of the V1 versus the used price is staggering.

 

[Tidewater]

Yes I must say I recognized that early on. Pro-camera performance for under a grand. Well I had one a while back, for a little while and I gave up on it. Now with that new lens it looks good again.

I too dumped it in favour of m4/3. I wanted a system and have been totally satisfied.

But the Nikon 1 keeps niggling at me ... the performance of the V1 versus the used price is staggering.