10D manual, page 66 last paragraph (Focusing issues)

[WINGnutsDAD]

Well there you have it. Can't please everyone - I guess it's all my fault - maybe my wife has been right after all that I can sometimes be offensive and unaware to it. Well dang - I just want to get sharper hand held photos, maybe I just need to get out the scissors and sharpen them up that way without causing so much trouble here. sorry -

Don't take this the wrong way although I have one question, did the Japanese ever apologize for bombing Pear Harbor? The bombs they dropped offended me but I was not going to address the issue here. I hope this doesn't ban me from this forum as it sure is useful. I love my 10D - even the bad photos. JLC

 

[Code Monkey]

no... i wasn't offended by your post... it's the comment that these manuals are written by idiots and the translators translate them in such a way that no information is passed at all...

Well there you have it. Can't please everyone - I guess it's all
my fault - maybe my wife has been right after all that I can
sometimes be offensive and unaware to it. Well dang - I just want
to get sharper hand held photos, maybe I just need to get out the
scissors and sharpen them up that way without causing so much
trouble here. sorry -

Don't take this the wrong way although I have one question, did the
Japanese ever apologize for bombing Pear Harbor? The bombs they
dropped offended me but I was not going to address the issue here.
I hope this doesn't ban me from this forum as it sure is useful. I
love my 10D - even the bad photos. JLC

 

[WINGnutsDAD]

I got home from work today and thought I might fire off a few shots around the house. Grabbed the old 10D, fired it up and looked down as I was eager to try this AI Servo thing and guess what?

THE CAMERA POWERED UP IN AI FOCUS!

I couldn't believe it. I must have been fiddling with buttons when I got it and somehow toggled over into this mode. These settings obviously "stick" when you are in Tv, Av, or P which is what I generally shoot in. No telling how long it's been like this. Could this explain the sporadic (in conjunction with my camera shake) blurry shots that appear to be out of focus?

Anyway changed back to "One Shot", made a few shots, downloaded onto pc and guess what - VERY SHARP ..... man what a feeliing!
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JLC
MyWorld Studios - Madison,MS

 

[Gary Coombs]

I got home from work today and thought I might fire off a few shots
around the house. Grabbed the old 10D, fired it up and looked down
as I was eager to try this AI Servo thing and guess what?

THE CAMERA POWERED UP IN AI FOCUS!

I couldn't believe it. I must have been fiddling with buttons when
I got it and somehow toggled over into this mode. These settings
obviously "stick" when you are in Tv, Av, or P which is what I
generally shoot in. No telling how long it's been like this. Could
this explain the sporadic (in conjunction with my camera shake)
blurry shots that appear to be out of focus?

Anyway changed back to "One Shot", made a few shots, downloaded
onto pc and guess what - VERY SHARP ..... man what a feeliing!
--
JLC
MyWorld Studios - Madison,MS

Read your post.
Smiled.
Smugly powered up my 10D.

THE CAMERA POWERED UP IN AI FOCUS!

What the... ????
How long have "I" been here too?
Too many things to watch and check.
I shot a whole evening at ISO 3200 once.
What a horrible thing to have to admit.

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[Gary Coombs]

Last thing I had done last night was let another person shoot a few shots of my wife and myself. I had put the 10D in AUTO mode.

It was STILL in AUTO mode when I turned it ON!

As soon as I changed from AUTO to Av (where I usually shoot) the 10D changed back to ONE SHOT! Changing back and forth from AUTO to Av changes from ONE SHOT to AI FOCUS.

Does this perhaps explain something about focusing problems and the shooting of rulers and other such sundry stuff? Huh?

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[WINGnutsDAD]

That was hilarious - and I would imagine more common than folks want to believe.

I think absolutely, there are so many variables with this camera which have the capability of misleading you that something is wrong with it or the lens. So far every problem I have found with my 10D has been self inflicted. I haven't messed with all the "ruler" stuff yet and probably never will as I have seen the capabilities of this camera and they are amazing. I am counting on spending a year or so getting to know it before I start complaining.
--
JLC
MyWorld Studios - Madison,MS

 

[Rylee Isitt]

I bet that more than half the focusing issues are caused by these things:

• Any of the automatic modes: P, portrait, landscape, etc. If you want to get the most out of your camera, and have time to think things over and choose settings yourself, avoid them. I have never used them on my D60. The 10D would be no different.

• Zooming in, focusing, and zooming out. This doesn't work unless you have a very expensive lens. Look at your lens, you'll notice that where the focus mark is, there are also other focus marks for different zooms. My 24-85mm lenses focus mark differs greatly from 24mm to 85mm. Focus on your subject with the focal length you are going to take the shot with.

• AI focus. Use it only when you have to. At sporting events, races, anything like that. With still subjects, use One shot.

• More than one selected focus point. Choose just one, and you'll get more accurate results.

• Apparently the centre focus point is the most accurate. I'll defer to those who claim so, and I use my D60 as if this were true. As far as I'm concerned, the left and right AF points on my D60 are decorative in nature!

My advice (do keep in mind I'm no pro, but this seems to work for me at least): stick to the centre point. Focus lock (half press the shutter button) on your subject, and then while still half pressing the shutter, recompose. Fully press the release button once you have composed your shot.

More advice: to save battery power and time, switch to manual focus on your lens once you have established focus on a non-moving object and plan to take more than one frame from the same position (if you are bracketing, for instance).

That was hilarious - and I would imagine more common than folks
want to believe.

I think absolutely, there are so many variables with this camera
which have the capability of misleading you that something is wrong
with it or the lens. So far every problem I have found with my 10D
has been self inflicted. I haven't messed with all the "ruler"
stuff yet and probably never will as I have seen the capabilities
of this camera and they are amazing. I am counting on spending a
year or so getting to know it before I start complaining.
--
JLC
MyWorld Studios - Madison,MS

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[Yohan Pamudji]

Huh, somebody else from Mississippi! Whowouldathunkit?

One thing I wish the 10D had (well, among a few other wish list items) is an ISO indicator when you're not changing the ISO--just something that permanently displays the ISO setting when the camera is on. I'm sure many here would like to see this too.

-Yohan Pamudji

That was hilarious - and I would imagine more common than folks
want to believe.

I think absolutely, there are so many variables with this camera
which have the capability of misleading you that something is wrong
with it or the lens. So far every problem I have found with my 10D
has been self inflicted. I haven't messed with all the "ruler"
stuff yet and probably never will as I have seen the capabilities
of this camera and they are amazing. I am counting on spending a
year or so getting to know it before I start complaining.
--
JLC
MyWorld Studios - Madison,MS

 

[WINGnutsDAD]

dangitithunkit!

I would have also liked USB "2.0" support verses "1.1". Even better would have been Firewire.

--
JLC
MyWorld Studios - Madison,MS

Huh, somebody else from Mississippi! Whowouldathunkit?

One thing I wish the 10D had (well, among a few other wish list
items) is an ISO indicator when you're not changing the ISO--just
something that permanently displays the ISO setting when the camera
is on. I'm sure many here would like to see this too.

-Yohan Pamudji

 

[Gary Coombs]

I bet that more than half the focusing issues are caused by these
things:

• Any of the automatic modes: P, portrait, landscape, etc. If you

want to get the most out of your camera, and have time to think
things over and choose settings yourself, avoid them. I have never
used them on my D60. The 10D would be no different.

• Zooming in, focusing, and zooming out. This doesn't work unless

you have a very expensive lens. Look at your lens, you'll notice
that where the focus mark is, there are also other focus marks for
different zooms. My 24-85mm lenses focus mark differs greatly from
24mm to 85mm. Focus on your subject with the focal length you are
going to take the shot with.

• AI focus. Use it only when you have to. At sporting events,

races, anything like that. With still subjects, use One shot.

• More than one selected focus point. Choose just one, and you'll

get more accurate results.

• Apparently the centre focus point is the most accurate. I'll

defer to those who claim so, and I use my D60 as if this were true.
As far as I'm concerned, the left and right AF points on my D60 are
decorative in nature!

My advice (do keep in mind I'm no pro, but this seems to work for
me at least): stick to the centre point. Focus lock (half press the
shutter button) on your subject, and then while still half pressing
the shutter, recompose. Fully press the release button once you
have composed your shot.

More advice: to save battery power and time, switch to manual focus
on your lens once you have established focus on a non-moving object
and plan to take more than one frame from the same position (if you
are bracketing, for instance).

I like that last one about turning off AF to take more pix of the same subject at the same distance. I'd never thought about that. That sure does make sense.

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[Gary Coombs]

dangitithunkit!

I would have also liked USB "2.0" support verses "1.1". Even better
would have been Firewire.

You negate that problem with a good card reader. I have a card reader installed permantly in the side of my IBM A31p. Shoot, Pop out the CF, put it in the side of my computer. read the pic, take out the CF card and pop it back into the 10D. It all takes just seconds to do. Very handy and it sure does beat the bother of hooking up your camera with external cables and wires.

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[Stefan Bruckel]

... or better, depending on your point of view, since they are much skimpier than Canon manuals. Of course, independent authors have done a great job to translate the manual for the rest of us and fill it with practical tips, such as the excellent eBooks by Thom Hogan.

If you set the mode to one-shoe, it will stay there. If you set it
to AI servo, it will stay THERE.

But if you set it to AI Focus, it will be in one-shot, unless your
subject moves, in which case it will automatically shift to AI
Aervo.

I agree with your confusion. These manuals are written by idiots,
and the translated to seven different languages just to be positive
that no actual information is conbeyed.

-J

What exactly does this mean as I am confused? Would this explain my
sometimes out of focus photos? See 10D manual page 66 which states:

"The AI Focus AF mode switches automatically from One-Shot AF to AI
Servo AF if the subject starts to move.

If focus is achieved in the One Shot AF mode and the subject starts
to move continously , the camera will detect the movement and
switch automatically to AI Servo AF to focus track the subject."
JLC

--
Jean MacIntyre