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is it not worth a mention anymore?
 
The problem for G5 was the timing of the arrival of the EM5 which received all the attention and the G5 has only very recently become available. Now we have people howling about the larger size of the GH3 when Pany has already produced a smaller version which included the most important HD improvement and that is 1080P and people ignored it? Most do not even realize the G5 uses a modified GH2 sensor which has a higher DR than any PEN or m4/3 product outside of the EM5. Another problem with sales was they continue to sell the G3 at bargain prices.

All the reviews of the G5 have been very positive on the G5, very fast AF, good colors, swivel screen, HD 1080P, etc. and this seems to be a viable alternative to any of the entry DSLRs which lack HD1080P except for fast tracking objects which is a problem even for EM5 but maybe not the new faster GH3? Now that people have seen the size and cost of the GH3 they may well taken a more serious look at the G5.
 
safaridon said:
Most do not even realize the G5 uses a modified GH2 sensor which has a higher DR than any PEN or m4/3 product outside of the EM5.
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DxOMark just measured the G5: The improvements in terms of DR and ISO noise over the GH2/GH1 are at best insignificant or, in other words, pretty close to non-existent. In fact, this is the point which put me off buying a G5. At least 2 years old sensor tech - the G5 is totally overpriced IMHO.
 
5 points better than the G3 (if we look superficially). Again, this is only DxOmark, only the sensor and nothing else.

One may wonder why anyone would ever buy a new Canon DSLR. D40-D50-D60 shows sometimes zero and sometimes a few points improvement. Sony is the exception to that rule.

Compared to the G3 it does a whole lot more better. Better video, electronic shutter, fast burstmode, in body HDR (I believe), better ergonomics.

COmpared to EM5...it is not in the same ballpark. It is much less expensive and it has a sensor that is not as good, but it is a very good sensor everstill. I have the GH2 and I am very happy with the IQ. I know OM-D is better, but I have never been truely impressed by the difference although I like the IQ a lot of course.

With the G5 you have a very capable, well rounded cam. As said: a worthy upgrade of the G5.
 
... the G5 is indeed a better cam than the G3. But it is very costly given that it harbors an outdated sensor generation (the G3 admittedly even more so). Anyhow, it seems strange to praise Pana for introducing a cam (the G5 that is), which employs an already obsolete (at least 2 years old) sensor tech. Of note, so far the G5 reviews were pretty positive but didn´t approve the pricing. The G5 is simply overpriced.
 
dr_elis said:
The G5 is indeed a better cam than the G3. But it is very costly given that it harbors an outdated sensor generation.
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Please tell us what you know about when the G5 sensor was designed and what you mean by "outdated".
 
The panasonic eshop, I found a discount code and used it for a £279 discount...
philbb said:
sgoldwo

Where did you buy this for £419?

Thanks in advance

Phil
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That's what I thought. You know nothing about it.
 
I think that's a bit of a short sighted view and the G5 isn't head and shoulders worse than the E-M5. The biggest difference is in DR but the E-M5 isn't that much better. It's a personal preference but to me the colours out of the G5 are nicer. The G5 and the 12-35 are a killer combo. I've revised my opinion of the 12-35 (in a very positive way) since owning the G5.

I paid £419 for my G5 as a one off but I've seen it around for £549 in the UK - it's definitely worth that and if you shoot in RAW the G5 is a better deal than the E-M5.
dr_elis said:
safaridon said:
Most do not even realize the G5 uses a modified GH2 sensor which has a higher DR than any PEN or m4/3 product outside of the EM5.
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DxOMark just measured the G5: The improvements in terms of DR and ISO noise over the GH2/GH1 are at best insignificant or, in other words, pretty close to non-existent. In fact, this is the point which put me off buying a G5. At least 2 years old sensor tech - the G5 is totally overpriced IMHO.
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Do not just rely on the DxOmark results.

Shoot your own photos and compare real life experience with the camera. DxO tests are most likely done on a single camera and sensor combination, and as we know with electronics their is often small/medium variations in production samples and in production lots.

I tend to rely on my own results, or the results of others photos shot with the same equipment that I respect and not just random test examples from DXO or any other testing source such as DPReview.

Test results will give a general facts/results of what they find for a single camera, lens, sensor combination not counting for unique variations in camera, sensor, and in camera processing.

Use your gear to its advantage and enjoy the process.

Mike
 
...DxOMark data and the G5's sensor as being a 2 year old design. Whatever Panasonic did when they modified it, they made it perform spectacularly. I have both the GH2 and the G5, and IMO the G5 (except for video) is the winner. You said you were once interested in the G5, then, do yourself a favor and try to find an opportunity to test one out for yourself. Forget about all the hype, advertisement, and paid off reviewers. Check it out for yourself. You will be impressed.
 
The G5 is on my short list for a new camera. However, I do think it should have had the same sensor as the GH3. To my eye the G5 is Panasonic's mid-range offering and other manufacturers will often include the latest sensors in mid-range offerings. Even the new Olympus PL5 has the same sensor as the E-M5.

There is plenty enough to seperate the G5 from the GH3 that I don't think the sensor had to be one of them.
 
KnightRupert said:
The G5 is on my short list for a new camera. However, I do think it should have had the same sensor as the GH3.
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How do you know it is different?
 
Chris Noble said:
Chris Noble said:
The G5 is on my short list for a new camera. However, I do think it should have had the same sensor as the GH3.
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How do you know it is different?
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According to DPReview:

"The GH3 is built around a new 16MP sensor, which the company promises will offer improved image quality."

According to mu-43.com:

"I've received confirmation from sources at Panasonic that the Panasonic G5 uses the same sensor as the Panasonic GH2."
 
It seems more and more likely that Chris Noble is either unable or not willing to accept simple facts. According to dxomark the G5 sensor is pretty much identical to the GH2 one. Given that the GH2 was announced in September 2010 I conclude that the G5 harbors an at least 2 years old sensor. On top, Pana decided to cripple it a bit by removing the multi-aspect capability.
 
dr_elis said:
... the G5 is indeed a better cam than the G3. But it is very costly given that it harbors an outdated sensor generation (the G3 admittedly even more so). Anyhow, it seems strange to praise Pana for introducing a cam (the G5 that is), which employs an already obsolete (at least 2 years old) sensor tech. Of note, so far the G5 reviews were pretty positive but didn´t approve the pricing. The G5 is simply overpriced.
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I considered the G5 and the E-M5 recently using image quality and relative pricing as my criteria for choosing a camera and bought the G5.

I don't care when the sensor may or may not have been first used or designed. I care about image quality. If I were to make buying decisions the way you do, I probably would have bought the E-M5 paying another $300.00 for a very, very slight improvement in DR.

I am delighted with the color, low noise, very nice DR, and excellent out of camera jpeg results.

As for the original OP question about why the G5 is not getting much attention...I don't know enough about the demographics statistical analysis of camera sales, but for the $699.00 that I paid in US dollars, I think I got a fabulous deal on a wonderful camera.
Dan
 
...modifying the G5 sensor. Yes, it's still the same Chevy, but with a Ferrari engine. Whatever they did, it's great. I was sceptical too until I tried it. Find out for yourself by trying it instead of anything dxomark did.
 
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