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M9/35 lux asph II at wedding
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ProtonPump
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image 1. good composition. poor shutter release timing. the man with the baby bike completely take away from the limo and the wedding.
image 2. love the dynamic range.
image 3. awesome composition but UTTERLY OVER EXPOSED- i can no longer make out the bride's dress. if you really are shooting it at f/1.7 a shot like this would best be stoped down to around f4.
image 4. great lighting. their eyes are definetly drawing attention but it's a little out of focus.
the girl and guy are a smidget to the left a-little-too-much-but maybe its the porportion of the gentlemen that it appears that way. compensating this would help.
image 5. great. just love it. the vignetting helps.
image 6. reverse white vignetting is a little rare to see but always welcomed. in this case as a wedding, it works, but it may be a little too heavy.
this last picture would of been much much better if the bride was in focus. it took me a good second to realize that shes about to throw the flowers.
good work so far. work on it. remember, the M9 is a great tool but it doesnt necessarly make you better photographer.
image 2. love the dynamic range.
image 3. awesome composition but UTTERLY OVER EXPOSED- i can no longer make out the bride's dress. if you really are shooting it at f/1.7 a shot like this would best be stoped down to around f4.
image 4. great lighting. their eyes are definetly drawing attention but it's a little out of focus.
the girl and guy are a smidget to the left a-little-too-much-but maybe its the porportion of the gentlemen that it appears that way. compensating this would help.
image 5. great. just love it. the vignetting helps.
image 6. reverse white vignetting is a little rare to see but always welcomed. in this case as a wedding, it works, but it may be a little too heavy.
this last picture would of been much much better if the bride was in focus. it took me a good second to realize that shes about to throw the flowers.
good work so far. work on it. remember, the M9 is a great tool but it doesnt necessarly make you better photographer.
xtoph
Veteran Member
I thought it was funny.
this is incorrect on two counts. First, there is lots of detail visible in the dress, even after the fairly aggressive processing look. (the veil might be completely blown, or not, in the raw file.) you may want to upgrade your monitor. Second, the correct exposure for a bright sunny day would certainly not be iso160, 1/4000, f/4; that would be underexposed by more than a full stop, which you don't want to do unnecessarily with people wearing tuxes. If you don't know this, you might consider being a bit more careful about the tone you adopt when "helping" other posters.
It's a fair point that placing wide people at the edge of a wide angle frame is risky (though I can't tell if this is what you meant). I kind of like this photo, though.
Well, it sure makes you a better photographer than if you don't have a camera.
Seriously, what's your point posting this?
Yesterday I was taking production photos for a theater performance, using a 5d2 side by side with an m9. The m9 photos have better color and detail; were much easier to focus; and made composition easier since I could see outside my frame lines without taking the camera from my eye. I made approximately the same number of exposures with both systems, but of the top 50 selects, the vast majority were from the m9. In any of several salient senses, the m9 absolutely did make me a better photographer. So you might want to lay off this tired canard--it's hard to see how it would be helpful to the op.
I agree with you.
To George (the original poster), I enjoyed viewing your images.
Peter.
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To George (the original poster), I enjoyed viewing your images.
Peter.
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Peter | Prosophos ( aka QDIEM4SC)
http://www.zenfolio.com/prosophos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/prosophos/
Tommy Hjorth
Member
I´m fully agreed with you critics, These pic are not up to what can be done with an M9 , blown highlight, no details in the shadows and so on ..
Tommy
Tommy
I don't see anything there that compositionally, nor technically matches the M9. To put it bluntly, a camera and lens worth $10k will not make you a photographer.
I'm not being demeaning in saying this, but my advice is to put the m9 away for a bit, then use a camera that is severely limiting, in comparison, such as a small sensor point and shoot, and learn compositional techniques with it. The limitations serve to improve skill, your adaptability, and wire you to know how to handle and set the cam under different conditions, in addition to giving you the freedom to learn composition.
I'm not being demeaning in saying this, but my advice is to put the m9 away for a bit, then use a camera that is severely limiting, in comparison, such as a small sensor point and shoot, and learn compositional techniques with it. The limitations serve to improve skill, your adaptability, and wire you to know how to handle and set the cam under different conditions, in addition to giving you the freedom to learn composition.
Thanks for taking the time to critique the pics.
image 1. good composition. poor shutter release timing. the man with the baby bike completely take away from the limo and the wedding.
Actually, I wanted the biker in the photo. I thought that it added interest.
image 2. love the dynamic range.
image 3. awesome composition but UTTERLY OVER EXPOSED- i can no longer make out the bride's dress. if you really are shooting it at f/1.7 a shot like this would best be stoped down to around f4.
Although I processed the pic this way, I can appreciate your comment.
image 4. great lighting. their eyes are definetly drawing attention but it's a little out of focus.
the girl and guy are a smidget to the left a-little-too-much-but maybe its the porportion of the gentlemen that it appears that way. compensating this would help.
Actually, I cropped it this way.
image 5. great. just love it. the vignetting helps.
image 6. reverse white vignetting is a little rare to see but always welcomed. in this case as a wedding, it works, but it may be a little too heavy.
I used the reverse vignetting to give the pic a light look but perhaps too heavy on viignetting as you say.
this last picture would of been much much better if the bride was in focus. it took me a good second to realize that shes about to throw the flowers.
Understand. I focused on the brides in waiting, thinking it gave an interesting look.
good work so far. work on it. remember, the M9 is a great tool but it doesnt necessarly make you better photographer.
image 1. good composition. poor shutter release timing. the man with the baby bike completely take away from the limo and the wedding.
Actually, I wanted the biker in the photo. I thought that it added interest.
image 2. love the dynamic range.
image 3. awesome composition but UTTERLY OVER EXPOSED- i can no longer make out the bride's dress. if you really are shooting it at f/1.7 a shot like this would best be stoped down to around f4.
Although I processed the pic this way, I can appreciate your comment.
image 4. great lighting. their eyes are definetly drawing attention but it's a little out of focus.
the girl and guy are a smidget to the left a-little-too-much-but maybe its the porportion of the gentlemen that it appears that way. compensating this would help.
Actually, I cropped it this way.
image 5. great. just love it. the vignetting helps.
image 6. reverse white vignetting is a little rare to see but always welcomed. in this case as a wedding, it works, but it may be a little too heavy.
I used the reverse vignetting to give the pic a light look but perhaps too heavy on viignetting as you say.
this last picture would of been much much better if the bride was in focus. it took me a good second to realize that shes about to throw the flowers.
Understand. I focused on the brides in waiting, thinking it gave an interesting look.
good work so far. work on it. remember, the M9 is a great tool but it doesnt necessarly make you better photographer.
Thanks for your comments. I do dislike reading in this forum that the M9 doesn't make you a better photographer. It always seems unnecessary since I do believe that anyone, no matter what their skill level, doesn't buy an M9 because they think it makes them better but buys the camera because they love cameras and photography. Investing that much money because you think it would make you in itself better would be stupid. Nevertheless, I also agree that there is a Leica look that you get no matter what your skill level.
I honestly don't see any "Leica look" there.
Hi George !
Nice sets you have there ! I read some of the previous comments and kind of disagree a bit as well with the comments as the M9 doesn't make you better !
Indeed the fact that you are using only 1 MF lens with a system that is not an slr (where you just press a button) proves your skills here. I strongly believe it makes you better and forces to better compose and anticipate !
The 1st one is really nice and i like the limo vs bike on the image !
The 3rd one. Even though it seems a little bit overexposed, it has a nice feeling. the image is sharp and we can see everyone's face. That's the most important. If the wife's face was overexposed then maybe...but that's not the case
the 4th seems a little bit OOF but good composition !
the last one gives a really cool feel !
Good work man !
Vadim
Vadim
http://www.vadimkrisyan.com
Nice sets you have there ! I read some of the previous comments and kind of disagree a bit as well with the comments as the M9 doesn't make you better !
Indeed the fact that you are using only 1 MF lens with a system that is not an slr (where you just press a button) proves your skills here. I strongly believe it makes you better and forces to better compose and anticipate !
The 1st one is really nice and i like the limo vs bike on the image !
The 3rd one. Even though it seems a little bit overexposed, it has a nice feeling. the image is sharp and we can see everyone's face. That's the most important. If the wife's face was overexposed then maybe...but that's not the case
the 4th seems a little bit OOF but good composition !
the last one gives a really cool feel !
Good work man !
Vadim
--I was invited to a wedding this past weekend and took along the M9 with the 35 lux. Comments are appreciated.
George
Vadim
http://www.vadimkrisyan.com
Hi Vadim,
Thank you for your helpful and encouraging comments. You are correct about the 35mm. I have been trying to use one camera and one lens and make it work in a variety of situations, which has been challenging and fun. At the wedding, this was particularly challenging, not to mention that both outside and indoor lighting was less than ideal. But that is what photography is all about--light.
By the way, I took a look at your gallery photos--they are gorgeous, especially the black and whites--love the one of the woman with the dogs.
George
Thank you for your helpful and encouraging comments. You are correct about the 35mm. I have been trying to use one camera and one lens and make it work in a variety of situations, which has been challenging and fun. At the wedding, this was particularly challenging, not to mention that both outside and indoor lighting was less than ideal. But that is what photography is all about--light.
By the way, I took a look at your gallery photos--they are gorgeous, especially the black and whites--love the one of the woman with the dogs.
George
Fenway, it appears you want critiques, but when you get them, you don't want them, and you only respond to people who are encouraging such pictures.
The biggest issue is first your compositional ability, then the next problem is that really, the camera isn't being used anywhere close to its potential. Additionally, even post processing, where applicable, fails to bring the pics out.
The biggest issue is first your compositional ability, then the next problem is that really, the camera isn't being used anywhere close to its potential. Additionally, even post processing, where applicable, fails to bring the pics out.
Paul20
Veteran Member
Hello there,
The 4th shot strikes me as a posed but nonetheless relaxed shot, I like it. I might have compensated by half a stop to allow for a faster shutter speed and then add a little fill light later but hey its easy in retrospect!
I also like the 5th shot, its emotive. This is a tricky exposure at 1.4 with all that back light. There appears to be some highlight issues beyond the Marquee but i'm betting these are recoverable. But importantly the couple look happy and people are watching them plus the quality of light through the vertical drapes and across the ceiling is lovely. I think there is more you could do with this shot, was it taken in raw?
In the last photo there are some priceless expressions on the bridesmaids faces.
Paul
The 4th shot strikes me as a posed but nonetheless relaxed shot, I like it. I might have compensated by half a stop to allow for a faster shutter speed and then add a little fill light later but hey its easy in retrospect!
I also like the 5th shot, its emotive. This is a tricky exposure at 1.4 with all that back light. There appears to be some highlight issues beyond the Marquee but i'm betting these are recoverable. But importantly the couple look happy and people are watching them plus the quality of light through the vertical drapes and across the ceiling is lovely. I think there is more you could do with this shot, was it taken in raw?
In the last photo there are some priceless expressions on the bridesmaids faces.
Paul
xtoph
Veteran Member
You don't become a better chess player by playing checkers.
Good thing checkers, chess, and photography using different cameras are all EXACTLY ALIKE.
The point made here, by several, by your analogy, is that he got checkers out of chess.
The point made here, by several, by your analogy, is that he got checkers out of chess.
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