I'd like to hear the opinion of the person who actually took the picture and saw the scene for themselves. I've often looked out at a landscape and thought that if I saw colours that lush and saturated in a photograph I'd assume it was over-processed.
Pentax's SDM technology is using micro USM motors (like Canon does in their low end USM products), not ring style ultrasonic motors: let's just say that AF speed is not their strong point anyway...
It makes little sense to me to use anything else than lenses especially made for the new mount anyway (except maybe Leica M mount lenses), only those will get you the benefit of a smaller package (at least with pancake style primes) with decent AF performances.
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Thanks, I did not know that; I got bamboozled by Pentax PR spin then into thinking that it was finally up to date with the best SLR lens AF motor technology.
I mostly agree: the talk about backward compatibility with old SLR or rangefinder lenses is probably of far more importance to "forum camera gear enthusiasts/connoisseurs/geeks" than to the vast majority of potential "compact system" buyers, who will mostly want new lenses that offer AF (and do it well, not hunting at a snail's pace) with the new body. A lot of them probably want the lenses to match the styling and color scheme too!
If so, then 90% of the dSLRs in existence are "very ugly" too. The proper complaint is that it looks too "conventional"...
Why not?
How are you so sure that customers will compare exclusively to those options?
Because the NX10 is equivalent to the Panny G1/GH1, that's why. The NX10 will compete against the G1/GH1 and entry-level compact DSLRs, that's why. The NX10 is for those who want the SLR form factor experience. And considering that SLR cameras far outsell the DP1 and EP1, I would say that there are a lot of people who are buying into the SLR form factor. The NX10 is simply offering that experience, except without the mirror, without the thickness the mirror creates, without the mirror slap, etc. Eventually, the mirrorless SLR-like form factor camera will supplant the mirrored SLR in the consumer/entry-level space.
Your argument relies on claiming that a lot of people considering the SLR-like form factor with the hump on top to be an advantage in itself, rather than seeing it as a disadvantage by making the camera bulkier. That is nonsense; people accept the lump on the top of an SLR because of the functionality it comes with: faster PD AF, the far greater and more varied lens options, a choice of brands, and so on.
... without that AF sped, without the large lens selection. Let us not pretend that either NX or m4/3 is offering a full-fledged DSLR substitute.
Probably so: and the majority of these will have compact, lumpless bodies, following the overwhelming market preference for smaller, sleeker designs in portable consumer items like this.
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So, if Samsung sell enough of these in BB to make a mint, it will still be a failure, because they only have 3 lenses? I don't follow that logic, sorry. By your own argument, "those folks" only need the 2 zoom lenses that samsung has already announced. How is that a failure?
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True, but they won't. System camera with only 2-3 lenses will be superseded by a more successful rival. If the NX10 had stock (as in stock market) attached to it, I'd short the heck out of it and make a ton of money doing it.
and megapixels still matter - NX has more of 'em than m43 - some people will buy into that too.
It's like consumer electronics poetry, and perfectly said.
You may not realize this, but that "hump on top" is actually a viewfinder through which the user can frame his shot, much like with a conventional SLR camera. And having such a viewfinder has its benefits compared to not having a viewfinder.
I would hardly base your entire argument based on the sales performance of the G1 camera compared to the EP1/GF1/EP2!!! LOL.
Your so-called "lumpless cameras" are actually P&S cameras mostly bought and used by casual snap shooters. Such shooters have little need or desire for a viewfinder. However, the rest of the market does want cameras with viewfinders. That's where the NX10, GF1 and DSLR cameras come in. And in the future, many of today's mirrored DSLR cameras will eventually go mirrorless, too. And yes, they'll most likely maintain the hump, too. Why? Because that hump houses a viewfinder! Many shooters who don't have much experience with viewfinders probably don't understand the value and benefit of actually putting your camera up to your eye, and that's probably why you don't see the appeal of it, and therefore just dismiss it as just a "lump" on the camera. For the rest of us, that "lump" and the viewfinder that resides under it is an integral part of the camera, and we prefer to have it!
This might come as a shock to you, but the NX10 is aimed at anyone potentially interested in buying a DSLR like any of the various entry-level DSLRs on the market. And many of these people are the ones passing on the GF1 and EP1.
I think Canon and Nikon will eventually offer their own versions of the NX10. Given that I'm a Canon user, I think I'd wait for Canon's NX10-type camera. That would probably mean I can get an adapter to use my existing Canon lenses, plus my Canon Speedlites would be compatible too. Right now, I keep an old Rebel XT as a compact, lightweight casual-shooting and travel camera, and I'd be happy to replace that with an even slimmer and more compact mirorless Rebel body! Yes, that would probably mean investing in a couple new mirrorless-specific lenses specifically designed for this body, but that's fine with me. If they offered it with a fast pancake 30mm lens like the NX10 has, I'd be all for it!
