PC owner considering Mac, convince me please..

Clyde1961

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I know very little about Mac's. I have a few friends that swear by them. My question is I PP photos with Capture NX2 and it tends to run a bit slow on my PC lap top. If I turn off in camera NR it's much better. I tend to shoot more raw than Jpeg.

Will the Mac run NX2 ok ?

I see some pretty powerful Dell P/C's even at Best Buy for less than $1K, with a 20+" monitor.

750 GB hard drive
Intel Quad 4
6 GB ram
Decent video card

I would think NX2 would run really good on that set up..

Comments please.

Clyde
 
I know very little about Mac's. I have a few friends that swear by
them. My question is I PP photos with Capture NX2 and it tends to run
a bit slow on my PC lap top. If I turn off in camera NR it's much
better. I tend to shoot more raw than Jpeg.

Will the Mac run NX2 ok ?

I see some pretty powerful Dell P/C's even at Best Buy for less than
$1K, with a 20+" monitor.

750 GB hard drive
Intel Quad 4
6 GB ram
Decent video card
it always seem with pc you get more speed for cheaper price, if you only ue nx2 pc will run more faster with the same spec. of mac.

this is the why i don't use nx2, i use aperture 2.0 with faster speed and much better interface
 
I'm sure they exist, but no photographer I know has switched from Mac to PC. However, I know many who have done the reverse; I'm one of them.

It's not just the specifications of one system versus the other. Macs are graceful, quiet and efficient. There's rarely guesswork between hardware and software, no strange surprises regarding audio or video.

It's nice knowing that the system on a Mac isn't churning away scanning viruses all the time; although that might change someday. Disk fragmentation doesn't seem to be an issue.

I made the switch almost exactly a year ago. Some challenges with an OS called "Vista" was the last straw.

I could go on, but you can probably tell, I've been dipping into the Kool-Aid.

Tom F.
Raleigh, NC
 
Hi, Recently bought a macbook pro laptop. I shoot elusively raw with d40 and Capture NX2. There is no comparison, the laptop screams, but my Dell PC is about 7 years old. Be prepared to buy some good monitor/screen calibration hardware/software. The calibration program Apple includes with their laptops is unacceptable.
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If you only use NX, save your money and get a Dell. Most people though don't use just one program. I used PCs for more than 20 years. I built my own for the last 10. I switched to Macs almost 2 years ago out of frustration with XP and with what I was reading about Vista. Yeah, it was a little weird for maybe a week, but the machine never crashed. I never had to reinstall the operating system or an application. When I sat down at my Mac to edit a picture in Photoshop, I didn't first have to edit the registry to stop BSODs before I could get any work done. I find OS X elegant, graceful and most of all, robust. Most Mac software I've come across is of high quality and beautiful. When I sit down at my Windows machines at work, I am reminded what a truly superior experience it is to use a Mac.
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-Rich
 
If it's logical for you to save money at the expense of time then keep your pc.

If you want a tool that is low an maintenance, trustworthy and has a much easier to use interface and better resale value then go for the Mac. Don't forget, if you miss windows Mac does that too but you will have to purchase AV software if you browse online on the dark side.
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Gregory Eddinger
Those that believe they can, CAN, because they BELIEVE!
 
It is too simple to say that comparable hardware costs less on the PC side. That doesn't translate automatically to a better performance.

To better understand just look at the XP and Vista. On the same hardware with the same amount of RAM the XP runs faster. The same is true for OS/X. On top of it, OS/X is optimized for a specific hardware, it doesn't need to run antivirus software and it doesn't have registry settings. So all in all, on comparable hardware OS/X is quite faster to use.

Both Apple and Microsoft are saying that in the next version of the OS there will be significant performance improvements. While Apple has to optimize for something like 20-30 hardware configurations Microsoft has to optimize for 10.000 different hardware configurations. Who has an easier task ahead?

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robche
 
I feel the Mac to PC debate today is more about a lifestyle choice than anything else.

Really, most people who change are seduced by how a Mac looks rather than the important stuff.

Anything you can do on Mac can be done on a PC.

I have always used Mac because of in the old days of digital photography, everything was on Mac a long time before PC. Now its not the case. Mac's and PC's use all the same bits now so performance differences are pretty equal.

I enjoy using Mac OS X and very comfortable with how it works. Coming from Windows I imagine it would feel very alien and frustrating.

I dread to think about how much it would cost in time and money to switch between the two. Do you not have lost of PC software?

Your choice but can a modern PC not do everything you need it to?

What is it about Windows that you don't like that OS X will fix?
 
When I sit down at my Windows machines at
work, I am reminded what a truly superior experience it is to use a
Mac.
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-Rich
Exactly!

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Sigma 70-200 f2.8 APO HSM EX
SB800 x 2
TC 17-EII
 
Based on your statements it does not appear you are ready to make the switch. This is more than a "lifestyle" change or a fashion statement. The new Intel Macs are awesome in everyway. I would disagree that OSX would be alien and difficult. Macs are designed to be user friendly (Simple and functional). Plus the Apple website has tutorials. Also most software companies usually allow you to switch platforms for free, like Adobe and Capture NX. I think I paid $6 shipping to switch my Photoshop CS3 to a MAC version.

I've been a PC user since 1995 and like you have always looked at the price tag. I also looked at the specs and software etc...Back then it was a no brainer, but Intel Macs bridge the gap in power and in software.

Last year I bought a brand new Dell Desktop, very high end running XP. But like most PC's, I was always fixing the dam thing. I realized that I'm always fixing my PC's, very frustrating and not very productive. I'd spend hours fix little problems here and there, which affected my productivity. You can buy a great PC, but you have to run Microsoft, that's the downfall.

Anyways, I went out and bought a MacBook Pro, no more fixing. I don't even touch the Dell desktop, except to play itunes when I'm working out. That's a waste of $1200.....I could sell you my Dell.

Also think about the future. Cheap monitors are just that, "cheap." If you want to get "What I see (on monitor) is what I get (print)." Skip the Dell monitors. I bought a 20"Ultra sharp ($399) based on reviews, but later found out Dell uses various panels in the same model. I got a Samsung PVA. Good viewing angles but not capable of 16.7 million colors. (.7 is key). Anything less, the moitor is mixing (forgot the technical term) to create colors. I ended up buying an Apple Cinema (which is a minimum standard).

I run CS3 Photoshop, Indesign, Lightroom, and Capture NX2 with no problems.

Also Bestbuy is expensive! BHPhoto or Dell

When buying a MAC, the saying Time is money is so true!
 
Also, consider that Vista, at least, has two different versions and the 32-bit can only handle so much RAM (I've read that amount is 4GB), if you were to get too much the leftover would go unused.

My switch to Mac was because I couldn't stand to use Windows anymore and I especially dislike Vista, it feels like you spend more time confirming what you want to do than actually doing it. It only took me a couple of days to get comfortable with the system and figure out the shortcuts that I'm used to, it really is a pleasantly simple system to work with.
 
Have you ever had to re-install an operating system? Had a virus? or any other windows problem? If no problems I would stay with the pc.

You had a number of replies from people who had that problem. I have never had a problem like those with windows. I forgot if you were the person who said their system was 7 years old. Regardless, ask some Mac people if they are still using a system as old as yours. I find mac people tend to upgrade faster because operating systems change quickly.

Another person replied about how the Windows had more drivers to upgrade than Mac. That is a strength of windows most all equip has pc drivers. It doesn't sound like you would need to worry about odd drivers for old scanners, printers etc.

In my mind, the reason to change is the integration between iphone, ipod, itunes, computer and the apple store. I find that a joy.

Good luck with your decision.

REd
 
I'm using a less than 2 year old Dell XPS lap top. I has 2 gigs of ram and 100gig hard drive. I have never had to reinstall the OS, nor had any virus attacks. The main reason I asked is I noticed a Dell desk top at a local box store that had 6 gig ram, good video card, 750 gig hard drive and runs on Vista premium, for less than a grand. Made me wonder if NX2 would run a little faster on that machine. Then I remembered my Mac friends praising their Mac machines and thought I would ask here.

I don't do a whole lot on my home computer other that check the web, check e mail and process photos in NX2..

Thanks everyone for your input.

Clyde
 
gaz
Anything you can do on Mac can be done on a PC.
True but not always with the same results, OSX is shaky at best on a PC. Flip side Mac runs XP windows faster than PC.
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Gregory Eddinger
Those that believe they can, CAN, because they BELIEVE!
 

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