Is this a photography forum or what....

[BillyBoy02]

Michael, a sure fire way to get noticed here is to go to a park and take some pictures of tame squirrels Someone could bust there butt walking through the mountains of a South American rain forest to get a once in a lifetime photo of a rare (and wild) animal but that squirrel in the park is what they want to see here,go figure... ......

Bill

Sandman,
I certainly plan on doing that. Thanks
MJ

 

[Jeff I.]

I couldn't agree more and VERY well said! short and to the point.... if you don't like it than just bye-pass that thread...

bye, Jeff I.

"I find this forum is the BEST on the internet bar none.With a
combination of professionalism,humor and compassion for each other
I feel it a joy to have it as a means for hints and tips to make my
hobby better."
--
Jeff S
WB9ZPO
UZI 21OO A-2OO,C-2000, 8X HB converter and alot of extra stuff.

 

[BillyBob]

Very well put Ricky! I never was very good with words and sometimes my mouth gets overloaded when the heat starts turning my neck red. I have absolutely nothing against anyone in this forum. I may enjoy some more than others but I'm sure we all do.

Thank you for the words of encouragement. I've accepted everything and even though I'd like to hang around a few more years I'm prepared. I'm at total peace with myself and to me thats all that matters. (As long as I have my trusty C2100UZ & Computer to help maintain my sanity)

BillyBob

 

[Jeff I.]

definately a YEA!

MIGHT NOT OF SPELLED IT RIGHT??!! oh well...... WHO CARES? LOL

Your response shows the spirit of the person you are...and supports
my nomination of you as Forum MVP!

 

[Ergo]

I totally agree with everything that everyone has said on both sides of this discussion and those who stayed in the middle. That is why this is a forum and why it works. If he followed his own logic, Michael would have never posted his subject ... but he obviously sensed and knew that this is ... in fact ... and in every sense of the word ... a FORUM. It melds and morphs and adapts to meet the needs of the individuals ... of the majority and of the minority. The members are not a finite group of camera models but are an almost infinite amalgamation of differing individuals with different tastes, abilities, interests and personalities. If we were all the same, there would only be the need for one of us and that would get pretty boring.

I want to personally welcome Michael and invite him to stay. I like his style. He says what he has to say. He has found a way to introduce himself and become known. If you don't speak up ... if you don't raise your hand ... you don't get called on. I look forward to seeing Michael's photos and to helping him in any way that I can. Like all of us, he will have his own style and will contribute to all of our growth. I'll look for your pictures now that I know who you are. Again ... WELCOME.

P.S.
Do you have any good recipes for potato salad?

Erg
(A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9)
http://www.pbase.com/ergo/ergoimages

 

[OlyMike]

Irony is what makes thngs interesting. Thanks Ergo.
MJ

I totally agree with everything that everyone has said on both
sides of this discussion and those who stayed in the middle. That
is why this is a forum and why it works. If he followed his own
logic, Michael would have never posted his subject ... but he
obviously sensed and knew that this is ... in fact ... and in every
sense of the word ... a FORUM. It melds and morphs and adapts to
meet the needs of the individuals ... of the majority and of the
minority. The members are not a finite group of camera models but
are an almost infinite amalgamation of differing individuals with
different tastes, abilities, interests and personalities. If we
were all the same, there would only be the need for one of us and
that would get pretty boring.

I want to personally welcome Michael and invite him to stay. I like
his style. He says what he has to say. He has found a way to
introduce himself and become known. If you don't speak up ... if
you don't raise your hand ... you don't get called on. I look
forward to seeing Michael's photos and to helping him in any way
that I can. Like all of us, he will have his own style and will
contribute to all of our growth. I'll look for your pictures now
that I know who you are. Again ... WELCOME.

P.S.
Do you have any good recipes for potato salad?

Erg
(A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9)
http://www.pbase.com/ergo/ergoimages

 

[MiKelly]

As a recent user, I would like to add my comments to this thread.

There are currently 20 postings in this thread (will probably be higher by the time I finish vbg)... 11 of these posts have the exact same wording in the subject line. It takes a long time to open each post if you are using a DIAL-UP connection. It does become a little frustrating when you are REQUIRED to open the message to see if it is something that you are interested in reading.

For example: A photo is posted for comments. If you are going to reply that is a 'great shot', then use the subject line to express your feedback. A simple NT will tell others that there is no additional text in the message. If you are going to make additional comments, provide a brief description in the subject line.

Please avoid subjects that are vague, i.e., "Guess what I did!" Tell us what you did so that we only open the message if we are interested.

The subject line is the way that we can choose whether or not to become involved in the 'personal' postings. This might be a possible solution to some of these expressed opinions.

Please: CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINES FOR YOUR REPLIES. It's the courteous thing to do. (Use NT if the subject line says it all)

BTW, I really like this forum and have had excellent responses from its members. Thanks for the help.

Mike Kelly
Houston, Texas

PS: It is a good idea to delete most of the previous post when you do reply. It saves on bandwidth.

 

[BillyBoy02]

As a recent user, I would like to add my comments to this thread.

There are currently 20 postings in this thread (will probably be
higher by the time I finish vbg)... 11 of these posts have the
exact same wording in the subject line. It takes a long time to
open each post if you are using a DIAL-UP connection. It does
become a little frustrating when you are REQUIRED to open the
message to see if it is something that you are interested in
reading.

For example: A photo is posted for comments. If you are going to
reply that is a 'great shot', then use the subject line to express
your feedback. A simple NT will tell others that there is no
additional text in the message. If you are going to make additional
comments, provide a brief description in the subject line.

Please avoid subjects that are vague, i.e., "Guess what I did!"

I guess this was directed towards me. I didn't think I could convey what I did in 5 or 6 words in the subject line so I didn't try.

Tell us what you did so that we only open the message if we are
interested.

The subject line is the way that we can choose whether or not to
become involved in the 'personal' postings. This might be a
possible solution to some of these expressed opinions.

Please: CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINES FOR YOUR REPLIES. It's the
courteous thing to do. (Use NT if the subject line says it all)

BTW, I really like this forum and have had excellent responses from
its members. Thanks for the help.

Mike Kelly
Houston, Texas

PS: It is a good idea to delete most of the previous post when you
do reply. It saves on bandwidth.

 

[shanley]

I was going to make a big post but I think this says it all for me.

Take what you want and disregard the rest. If your post does not get answered bump it or post it again.
--
Shanley
C-2100
http://www.pbase.com/shanley
'The important thing is not to stop questioning.'
-Albert Einstein

(F) I'm following richard on this one!

 

[MiKelly]

on-the-fly and trying to think about things that 'slow down' my browsing on the forum. One of these days, I will spring for either a cable of dsl connection. I think that these forums are so popular that they can be a little slower to downloads at times.

Also, this forum moves so quickly that it is difficult to keep up with messages that interest you. That's also what makes it so good.

Mike Kelly
Houston, Texas

It was just a coincidence that you happened to post one with that subject.

Please avoid subjects that are vague, i.e., "Guess what I did!"

I guess this was directed towards me. I didn't think I could convey
what I did in 5 or 6 words in the subject line so I didn't try.

 

[petersen]

I happen to agree...

please stick around... we need more like you around here.

 

[aitchsee]

After following this forum for a few weeks I have to make a
comment.

Hi Michael,

To a great extent this just seems to be "the way of forums", but partiucularly with photography I think it's a necessary part.

I manage several forums and have to say that the ones which veer off-topic into the realms of "Real Life" are the successful ones. The ones that are still going strong 6 years after I started them. Those that stick strictly to the point never seem to have that sense of community which makes people want to join in. When we first join a fourm it is often because we are "beginners" - having asked our initial questions, unless there is a bit of off-topic stuff which we can relate to it's often difficult to contribute further while we digest what we've learnt and become able to help newer new-comers If a forum is designed purely to answer tech. questions or whatever that is fine... except, eventually all the knowledgeable people will tire of answering the sames questions over and over and leave... :-/

Photography is an art, and therefore emotive. When we see a painting or read a poem we tend to want to know about the artist/poet - hence the thousands of biographies on the market! For me, it's the same with photography, I see a great photo and think, "what kind of person took that?" and reading their off-topic posts gives me a feeling of that - more than simply reading their profile could.

I feel that this forum has a good balance between technical advice, personal opinion, encouragement and off-topic posts and though I post relatively rarely - and probably more off-topic than on, I'm still at the digesting stage - I find it a good place to be and I've learnt a lot!

Glad to hear you'll be around a while

-H

--
http://www.pbase.com/aitch/

 

[Sandman]

aitchsee,

I read your post twice and thought it made a great deal of sense. I'm glad you feel the way you do and have this opinion of the forum. You have hit the nail on the head regarding the necessity of OT stuff to keep the forums interesting for those who have been here for a while. I have never participated in a forum that I enjoy so much as this one, and I do belong to a few.

Thanks for sharing these sentiments and opinions. I'm glad you have found a place for yourself here.

jim

 

[Gene Miller77510]

That's the best reason I ever heard of for owning and playing with these toys. I'm glad you have found peace with yourself and I hope it will last a lot longer then you anticipate. Also that the peace you found will follow you wherever you go.

Very well put Ricky! I never was very good with words and sometimes
my mouth gets overloaded when the heat starts turning my neck red.
I have absolutely nothing against anyone in this forum. I may enjoy
some more than others but I'm sure we all do.

Thank you for the words of encouragement. I've accepted everything
and even though I'd like to hang around a few more years I'm
prepared. I'm at total peace with myself and to me thats all that
matters. (As long as I have my trusty C2100UZ & Computer to help
maintain my sanity)

BillyBob

--
C700uz, E100rs
http://www.pbase.com/gene
Life is just a stage and we all have enough pictures to proof it!

 

[aitchsee]

aitchsee,

I read your post twice and thought it made a great deal of sense.
I'm glad you feel the way you do and have this opinion of the
forum. You have hit the nail on the head regarding the necessity
of OT stuff to keep the forums interesting for those who have been
here for a while. I have never participated in a forum that I
enjoy so much as this one, and I do belong to a few.

Thanks for sharing these sentiments and opinions. I'm glad you
have found a place for yourself here.

jim

--
http://www.pbase.com/aitch/

 

[Willa]

Michael,

As Jack Nicholson said to Shriley MacLaine in "Terms of Endearment", "I think you need a drink 'cause it's gonna take a LOT of alcohol to kill that bug up your A* " I am pretty much a newbie on this forum, too, and I have learned a LOT! The humor and interjections mixed in with tips and tricks is really a good blend. What a cranky pants you are. Go take a nap. You need one. Then, go to Barnes and Noble and buy a few books on photography, since you really are not partisan to the 'social interaction' part of a forum. Oh, and for the record, your post WAS rude and ugly. There is always someone who wants to spit in the punch, I swear. This time, it's YOU. This forum is educational, funny and interesting. Your post wreaks of sour grapes. Your disposition is not our fault. You said you've been visiting this forum for weeks. Why?

Willa

After following this forum for a few weeks I have to make a
comment. Not to be ugly or rude but seems like a lot of people take
the time and effort to post legitamite questions on this forum
about photography and a lot of times no one will answer but
something about being sober for a week or whether or not theres
multiple personalities using the same screen name gets lots of
attention. Just take a look at the other forums sure they are not
as active but then again most of the stuff posted has to do with
photography not as a means of getting attention or whatever . It's
disheartening that a few can demand so much attention by being
clowns and some of the truely sincere people get ignored.
If you want to make a joke whats wrong with doing it with a funny
picture or something like that. If you want to get therapy then why
not go to a self help forum. My opinion I am sure doesn't count for
much as I WAS a newbie but for now toodle de doo. Makes you wonder
what kind of folks are posting here.Some are sincere and my hats
off to them but to the others who use this forum for something
besides photography get a life people....
Thanks It was entertaining to say the least
MJ

 

[BillyBoy02]

Willa,he's just voicing his opinion and I think he has some interesting points and I stand behind his right to make it. His thoughts were just another "interjection" Besides the person you said he was rude to said "I totally agree" Calm down and let a person express what's on his mind. What do you think this is a college campus ? where if your not PC people try to shut you up

As Jack Nicholson said to Shriley MacLaine in "Terms of
Endearment", "I think you need a drink 'cause it's gonna take a LOT
of alcohol to kill that bug up your A* " I am pretty much a newbie
on this forum, too, and I have learned a LOT! The humor and
interjections mixed in with tips and tricks is really a good blend.
What a cranky pants you are. Go take a nap. You need one. Then,
go to Barnes and Noble and buy a few books on photography, since
you really are not partisan to the 'social interaction' part of a
forum. Oh, and for the record, your post WAS rude and ugly. There
is always someone who wants to spit in the punch, I swear. This
time, it's YOU. This forum is educational, funny and interesting.
Your post wreaks of sour grapes. Your disposition is not our
fault. You said you've been visiting this forum for weeks. Why?

Willa

After following this forum for a few weeks I have to make a
comment. Not to be ugly or rude but seems like a lot of people take
the time and effort to post legitamite questions on this forum
about photography and a lot of times no one will answer but
something about being sober for a week or whether or not theres
multiple personalities using the same screen name gets lots of
attention. Just take a look at the other forums sure they are not
as active but then again most of the stuff posted has to do with
photography not as a means of getting attention or whatever . It's
disheartening that a few can demand so much attention by being
clowns and some of the truely sincere people get ignored.
If you want to make a joke whats wrong with doing it with a funny
picture or something like that. If you want to get therapy then why
not go to a self help forum. My opinion I am sure doesn't count for
much as I WAS a newbie but for now toodle de doo. Makes you wonder
what kind of folks are posting here.Some are sincere and my hats
off to them but to the others who use this forum for something
besides photography get a life people....
Thanks It was entertaining to say the least
MJ

 

[RichO]

This is past tense...please read Michael's post after he posted this.

BTW, I might not agree with Michael's view, but I respect and protect his right to express it.

After following this forum for a few weeks I have to make a
comment. Not to be ugly or rude but seems like a lot of people take
the time and effort to post legitamite questions on this forum
about photography and a lot of times no one will answer but
something about being sober for a week or whether or not theres
multiple personalities using the same screen name gets lots of
attention. Just take a look at the other forums sure they are not
as active but then again most of the stuff posted has to do with
photography not as a means of getting attention or whatever . It's
disheartening that a few can demand so much attention by being
clowns and some of the truely sincere people get ignored.
If you want to make a joke whats wrong with doing it with a funny
picture or something like that. If you want to get therapy then why
not go to a self help forum. My opinion I am sure doesn't count for
much as I WAS a newbie but for now toodle de doo. Makes you wonder
what kind of folks are posting here.Some are sincere and my hats
off to them but to the others who use this forum for something
besides photography get a life people....
Thanks It was entertaining to say the least
MJ

--
RichO
San Antonio, TX
http://www.pbase.com/richo/
http://www.richo.org/LearningCenter/faq_olympus.htm
'Life is a dance, Love is the music.'

 

[RichO]

Sorry...I meant to include this link

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=2753727

This is past tense...please read Michael's post after he posted this.

BTW, I might not agree with Michael's view, but I respect and
protect his right to express it.

 

[BillyBoy02]

well I stand behind Michael original comments even though he's gone soft. A lot of you have liken this forum to a community. When's the last time you were at some sort of a community meeting and someone stood up and said "I've been sober for a week" You want this forum to be like a Jenny Jones show ? Does all of are failing and vice's have to be disgusted in public,isn't there such a thing as "good taste" that we try to strive for ?

Bill

After following this forum for a few weeks I have to make a
comment. Not to be ugly or rude but seems like a lot of people take
the time and effort to post legitamite questions on this forum
about photography and a lot of times no one will answer but
something about being sober for a week or whether or not theres
multiple personalities using the same screen name gets lots of
attention. Just take a look at the other forums sure they are not
as active but then again most of the stuff posted has to do with
photography not as a means of getting attention or whatever . It's
disheartening that a few can demand so much attention by being
clowns and some of the truely sincere people get ignored.
If you want to make a joke whats wrong with doing it with a funny
picture or something like that. If you want to get therapy then why
not go to a self help forum. My opinion I am sure doesn't count for
much as I WAS a newbie but for now toodle de doo. Makes you wonder
what kind of folks are posting here.Some are sincere and my hats
off to them but to the others who use this forum for something
besides photography get a life people....
Thanks It was entertaining to say the least
MJ