VR and fast (aperture) glass are two completely separate things. They can be super great together, but either on its own has its own merits. Fast glass comes into its own on action in low light (to a point anyway) and the times you want to isolate a background and can't set up for it any other way. VR on the other hand helps your images almost completely across the board. In low light, in bright light, when panning, if you haven't experienced the improvement it can make, you need to try it. I'm not sure that there isn't something special about the way any form of optical image stabilization can effect the quality of digital images. I believe that all the manufacturers are realizing this (and maybe always did) and incorporating it more and more into new bodies and lenses. It will probably become more and more of a standard feature as time goes on. There's no excuse for not using something as valuable as vr if it is available.
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New Nikkor AF-S 16-85 f3.5-5.6 VR !!
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MagicNikon
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Couldn't agree more! I used Canon's 17-55mm 2.8 IS for several months and I really liked the stabilization and the fast aperture. It ruined me when I came back to Nikon and the 17-55mm DX ;(
I think I could like this 16-85mm.....even if it's a tad slow.
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aroundomaha
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Ditto here, I pretty much shoot things that are moving. While I liked my 18-200VR I didn't keep it and eventually upgraded to a used 80-200 af-s.
Also picked up a great Nikon 35-70mm f/2.8.
I understand what VR does, but I think it is becoming a crutch for cleverly engineered but average glass. Case in point, the 18-55 VR. It has to have VR in doors just to get a decent exposure at a moderate ISO.
I like VR, but for my purposes fast glass is better. Right now Nikon seems to be dividing up between $1,700 lenses (often with no VR) or low end f/5.x lenses with VR.
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Also picked up a great Nikon 35-70mm f/2.8.
I understand what VR does, but I think it is becoming a crutch for cleverly engineered but average glass. Case in point, the 18-55 VR. It has to have VR in doors just to get a decent exposure at a moderate ISO.
I like VR, but for my purposes fast glass is better. Right now Nikon seems to be dividing up between $1,700 lenses (often with no VR) or low end f/5.x lenses with VR.
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MagicNikon
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http://www.pantip.com/cafe/camera/topic/O6165353/O6165353.html
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this is real, unless it isnt. c'mon guys since when did nikon think like its consumers. nikon's lenses are sometimess baffling and we nikonians always complain. lets just wait for the announcement, but in my case i like the range and ill but it if it comes out and if priced competitively.
Intrepid24
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The side view confirms the OP photo that it is real. Note that there is no filter mounted, as there is in the OP photo. This is obviously a different 'sample' of the same lens. This 16-85mm clearly uses body parts from the 18-200mm VR lens and the 67mm diameter filter 'snout' from the 18-70mm.
Also note the nonlinearity of the markings on the focal lengths of the zoom - typical slow Nikon zoom.
The 'different' fonts on the lens identifying plate is due to fitting the data onto the existing bodypart plate-recess tooling.
My guess: US MSRP $450.00; Add +$350.00 when included in Body+Lens kit.
Also note the nonlinearity of the markings on the focal lengths of the zoom - typical slow Nikon zoom.
The 'different' fonts on the lens identifying plate is due to fitting the data onto the existing bodypart plate-recess tooling.
My guess: US MSRP $450.00; Add +$350.00 when included in Body+Lens kit.
MagicNikon
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As long as it doesnt suck as bad as the 24-120mm VR.... This will be a nice walkaround lens. Just be sharp with minimal CA's....I can deal with distortion....
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Allen George
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I think it's real, and probably a kit lens for the D80 replacement.
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zakk9
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THB 10,000 is around USD 285
http://www.thaisecondhand.com/view/print.php?product_id=6056960
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MagicNikon
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Nice find!
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Intrepid24
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Hmmm... I hope you're right. I guessed around $450.
If that currency exchange rate is about right, Nikon is going to be selling many boxcar-loads of this lens if it's priced at around $300.
I also noted from these most recent photos that it has a metal bayonet mount and appears to include a rubber body seal.
MagicNikon
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I was happy to see that as well....
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Intrepid24
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They've obviously designed a bunch of products that can utilize common parts in their inventory. Prime examples: D80 & D200; D40 & D40X; D3 & D300.
No wonder the 18-70mm has been discontinued - a bunch of its components will reappear in the 16-85mmVR. It will share more parts with the current 18-200mm VR. I wonder if all the lens elements in the 16-85 are stock items? Hehe.
This is a classic study in engineering and marketing actually talking to each other - what a concept.
Nikon indicated at their press conference prior to the D3/D300 intro that they have a plan in place to accomplish 1st place DSLR market share. It is surely working.
Not only will they probably accomplish this, but they are targeting the 3rd party mfrs who fill gaps in the lens lineups.
It looks like Nikon has a long parade of rabbits up their sleeve...
Well, as long as nobody really know for sure how this lens being sold in local shop which easily seen in the public. I don't think it's fare to state that they are stolen form the factory.
Anyway, agree that the price may not be reliable.
Because I also don't know for sure, that's why I use "might".
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I am still suprised this lens is generating this much interest when there is already the 18-70, 18-135 and the 18-200 VR. I guess this lens can be seen as the VR equivilent of the 18-70 with more reach on both ends, but I still dunno what the excitement is about.
I would like to see a 300 f/4 VR that is under $1,000
I would like to see a 300 f/4 VR that is under $1,000
Intrepid24
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OOPS! Someone is soon without employment...
This is getting more bizarre by the minute.
I still go by my previous target prices:
US MSRP $450.00; Add +$350.00 to body price when included in Body+Lens kit.
Intrepid24
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It's the first Nikon VR DX kit lens with 24mm equivalent field of view WITH VR on the wide end. Think 24-120 VR for DX.
You and me both.
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