What makes the D3 so appealing to everyone?

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Besides having a lot of extra features and faster FPS, what makes the D3 more appealing than a 5D?

If Canon makes a 16MP 5D II, wouldn't that take the wind out of Nikon’s sails and sales?

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Zeppelin ±
 
Besides having a lot of extra features and faster FPS, what makes the
D3 more appealing than a 5D?
D3's pro-body, good high ISO 'on paper', 100% viewfinder, weather-proofing.
If Canon makes a 16MP 5D II, wouldn't that take the wind out of
Nikon’s sails and sales?
Unless the 5D2 breaks away from 5D's prosummer body...but I doubt it really much! 16MP is nice, but still, its a prosummer body afterall, really no comparison to the built of a full blown D3.

Just my 2 cents.
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Zeppelin ±
 
I'm not posting in the wrong forum. I see a lot of Canonites talking about swtiching to the D3. That's why I asked.
I think you posted this question in the wrong forum, this is the
Canon forum not the Nikon forum.
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Zeppelin ±
 
I'm a Canon user and I have no intention of switching.

The D3 is very interesting because...
  • it sounds like an excellent and well designed camera.
  • Nikon is a great camera manufacturer with a long history of producing really outstanding products.
  • it is the first real full-frame competition for Canon offerings and, as such, may mark the start of some interesting new types of competition in the camera market.
All of these factors could interest people other than just Nikon users.

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G Dan Mitchell
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It's not that appealing to me ! I'm quite happy with my 40D for birding and have a very nice collection of long Canon L telephoto lenses which are very high quality, readily available, and affordable in comparison to the equivalent Nikon lens (when one exists at all). Not to mention the future availability of what will probably be an amazing 800mm monster lens. However, I would be extremely interested in picking up a 5D Mark II as a second FF body to complement my 1.6x 40D. Specially if it comes in at 16MP since then the pixel density will be high enough to make a decent birding camera. If you're wondering how good the D3 will be for birding then I suggest you calculate it's pixel density. Hint: I think you'll find out that it has the lowest pixel density of any of the pro and prosumer camera bodies.
 
First, I think the D3 is competing more with the 1D mkIII than the 5D. The body and fps speak to that.

I like the fast fps, full frame fisheye capability, and the noise performance.

About the full frame: My ID mkII has no good option for full frame fisheye. I could get the Tokina 10-17 and set it on 12mm, but the quality is not as high as I need it. The 1Ds series can use the Canon 15mm, but they're too slow. So, I'm currently stuck with using the 15mm on a 1.3 crop body.

The D300 can use the 10.5mm as a full frame fish, and it has the option of 8fps, but the high ISO performance of the D3 is what gets me. Plus, I actually like the large size of that type of camera.

Canon wins with 10fps, but 9 on the D3 is pretty close. Sure, it has 11fps cropped, but the size of the file is cut in half, and you'd have to have a 10.5 for that mode.

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Dan
 
i'm a Canon guy......but that D3 is suited to be able to do any type of shoot. the MP might be a little low for commercial but other than that.....it can do everything. Photojourn, sports, weddings, portraits.....you name it, it can handle it. plus the image samples look stunning....kinda like the 1DS (11mp).

as far as the D300.

on PAPER....its the camera i've been waiting for Canon to build in that price range.......PERIOD.
 
I may be wrong but I think the D3 is about at least $2000 more expensive... so it makes sens that it comes a little bit more loaded.
 
Besides having a lot of extra features and faster FPS, what makes the
D3 more appealing than a 5D?

If Canon makes a 16MP 5D II, wouldn't that take the wind out of
Nikon’s sails and sales?

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Zeppelin ±
It would be a no brainer, otherwise I suspect it's more a matter of the folks who have the need to just own something new. If I was a Nikon shooter I'd be happy, as a Canon shooter I don't really care other than it means Canon won't be able to just sit idly by.

Don't you mean when and not 'if'....

Kevin
 
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Particularly as almost no one has TOUCHED one yet.
There are tens of reports from people who worked with one. Also from guys who normally shoot Canon. They all think the D3 is a very, very good camera...

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It's not that appealing to me ! I'm quite happy with my 40D for
birding and have a very nice collection of long Canon L telephoto
lenses which are very high quality, readily available, and affordable
in comparison to the equivalent Nikon lens (when one exists at all).
Not to mention the future availability of what will probably be an
amazing 800mm monster lens. However, I would be extremely interested
in picking up a 5D Mark II as a second FF body to complement my 1.6x
40D. Specially if it comes in at 16MP since then the pixel density
will be high enough to make a decent birding camera. If you're
wondering how good the D3 will be for birding then I suggest you
calculate it's pixel density. Hint: I think you'll find out that it
has the lowest pixel density of any of the pro and prosumer camera
bodies.
If you like birding theres a great chance the D3 will be excellent for tracking and locking on to birds in flights. This is due to Nikons new Scene Recognition system which uses Nikons 1,005 RGB metering sensor to track objects by Color pattern recognition. This data from the metering sensor will then be relayed to the 51 point Pro AF module for better predictive AF. The Nikon D300 shares the same Pro AF system.

Here is some details from this site:

New Multi-CAM3500FX Auto Focus sensor
(51-point, 15 cross-type, more vertical coverage)

Auto-focus tracking by color
(using information from 1005-pixel AE sensor)
http://nickmjr.smugmug.com/
Nick M
 
The 5D produces top notch image quality. but that is its only feature worth mentioning. The D3 tops it on everything else.

People have always said, we want a 1 series body with a 5D sensor in it. So nikon made it and threw in a few extra things like double CF card slots.
 
Besides having a lot of extra features and faster FPS, what makes the
D3 more appealing than a 5D?

If Canon makes a 16MP 5D II, wouldn't that take the wind out of
Nikon’s sails and sales?

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Zeppelin ±
It would be a no brainer, otherwise I suspect it's more a matter of
the folks who have the need to just own something new.
Do I feel the need to own something new? No. But I do need to be on top of my business. If I can get one stop less noise it's a big deal to me. So is dual CF-cards, so is a good LCD, etc... It has nothing to do with ego. It's just that as a company I use the best equipment for the job. Ergo, I have to buy a Nikon. They build the 5D on steroids...

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It's a good and relevant question, and right for this forum.

In my case, the closest alternative to the 1D MKIII that failed to deliver on its promises, and was badly flawed. I lost faith in the 1D MKIII after returning 2 examples. The D3 offers a more fim-like experience, is FF, offers better review, and is a better all-rounder. I also believe its metering and WB are more accurate. It is also ideal for concerts which represents most of my work (although I am spreading my wings a bit now). But there is another reason. I have chosen to go the 2-system route in order that I can have a different image 'look' which only another top brand can offer (also considered the E-3 but believe it cannot deliver the low noise images I need), and one which can be offered as an alternative to clients.

Tony
 
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Particularly as almost no one has TOUCHED one yet.
There are tens of reports from people who worked with one. Also from
guys who normally shoot Canon. They all think the D3 is a very, very
good camera ...
I have little doubt it is.

Given the price point and the lenses available compared with Canon's, I just don't think it's a "I have to switch systems now" deal.

And that hysteria began even before there was a SINGLE hands on report. So I stand by my comment that much of it was hype inspired.

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Not correct. Many pros have been using the D3 in real world shooting during the run-up to release and have reported on their experiences.
Tony
 

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