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AvertedVision said:
Restricting our vocabulary is hardly the problem.
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Really? I'd bet I have as wide a vocabulary as anyone else on this forum. And it includes Anglo-Saxon vernacular.
AvertedVision said:
Expressing
dissatisfaction is actually very narrowly restricted to a mere
handful of very common four letter words.
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Is it? Is that what's at issue here? Do the filters remove messages from people who only use four letter words? Or are they just as likely to prevent a message with one word (arbitrarily added to a censor's list) among a posting rich in vocabulary?
AvertedVision said:
How about expanding the vocabulary instead of using the same stale
words over and over again?
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I never stop expanding my vocabulary. But I don't artificially limit it, either.
AvertedVision said:
What we need is a little Shakespearean creativity. :-)

http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/
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Much Shakespearean language was shocking to a contemporary audience, you pillicock...

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There have been many, many posts on this forum from non-native English speakers expressing this view - hence the reason I mentioned it :-)

Brian
 
Mark D said:
When I was a much younger man I worked with a great gentleman who
was 20 years my senior. When ever I would swear he would tell me
this one simple phrase " Swearing is the attempt of a feeble mind
trying to express itself forcefully." Since then I have always
tried to find a proper word that would express the feeling and
context which I am trying to convey.
If you would like to subject people to language that is fit more
for the pub than a public forum then I suggest that you start your
own forum and allow people to write whatever they want.
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As you may or may not know, a Mr Thomas Crapper has been credited with popularising the toilet, and in some instances also erroneously credited with the invention of such sanitaryware. The noun 'cr@p', whilst used before Thomas Crapper was born, and having died out from popular usage during Victorian times, seems now to be back in common vocabulary and most often refers to the act performaed when actually using the aforementioned item of sanitaryware.

Whilst I am not against the use of the word in a public forum, I do believe that we should be grateful that it is used as a term to denote something of less than acceptable quality, rather than in the more literal sense of the word.

Simon

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funnelwebmaster said:
Dude, get a clue: - it's in the dictionary: http://www.m-w.com
(enter the word "cr@p" and see the light, my man)

Funnelmaster
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Thanks for proving my point :-)

Reading the above

Dude?
Get a clue?
See the light?
My Man

What concept or idea were you struggling for when you came up with the above?
In what way am I a 'Dude'?
What clue am I to look for?
See what light?
Why am I your 'man'?

Amazing - but thanks again for confirming/proving my point so convincingly
But - interesting use of colons

Brian
 
Tom Moerel said:
Wow, this forum is really going downhill. I tried to reply to a
post using the word cr@p. Apparently this word is too offensive and
it gets censored.
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How is that 'the forum going downhill'?
Tom Moerel said:
I thought this is a place where grown ups talk about photography.
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Apparently not. When we can stop being childish, most of us find more interest in bitching about things that really are not worth the effort.
Tom Moerel said:
Is a word like cr@p not daily common language?
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In some places, yes it is. Unfortunately.
Tom Moerel said:
Looks like the overzealous US prudish evangelism is affecting this site now too!
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UK, actually. And effective use of language is hardly prudish. But if you don't like the rules, don't let the door hit you in the donkey on the way out.
Tom Moerel said:
Yuck! What a load of poo!
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Yes, thank you for that astute observation. It's good to see that language skills are moribund, not dead.

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funnelwebmaster said:
C.mon now, if the VP of the US can publicly use the term 'a$$hole'
the surely we can use the term krap.
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That is called 'setting a bad example'.

This is the reason why it is so important for people in the spotlight to set good examples, as not to give the message that what they are doing is correct, and that that can be followed by others.

Just because someone senior, or in the spotlight, does something, does not make it right.

Jacques

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Brian said:
I hate to admit it, but your signature looks better in colour.
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I hope you have insurance mate, coz I just popped a blood vessel and I'm going to hospital! Your fault, you're paying.

LOL - very well said.
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Well, the only things I've managed to prove are that:
1. you don't acknowledge when you are shown to be wrong (poor self-insight)
2. you are a pedant (or at least strive to be one, albeit not that successfully)

3. you are literal-minded to the point hilarity (not a sign of high intelligence)
4. ignorance and arrogance are personal attributes that you exemplify nicely.

welcome to the real world, dude!!
Brian OReilly said:
funnelwebmaster said:
Dude, get a clue: - it's in the dictionary: http://www.m-w.com
(enter the word "cr@p" and see the light, my man)

Funnelmaster
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Thanks for proving my point :-)

Reading the above

Dude?
Get a clue?
See the light?
My Man

What concept or idea were you struggling for when you came up with
the above?
In what way am I a 'Dude'?
What clue am I to look for?
See what light?
Why am I your 'man'?

Amazing - but thanks again for confirming/proving my point so
convincingly
But - interesting use of colons

Brian
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funnelwebmaster said:
Might I then query you as to how exactly you know this? Are you
privy to the opinions of these so-called "many" non-native English
speakers that you mention?
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Here is one example of these opinions:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=23730999

Jacques
funnelwebmaster said:
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http://www.homestead.com/uluru
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Brian said:
I hate to admit it, but your signature looks better in colour.
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Guy Swarbrick said:
Chubly said:
Be glad the US helped Europe in WW2 or else you
would be speaking German.
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They were 2 years late and a backbone in 1939 might conceivably
have prevented the whole thing in the first place. Not much oil in
Poland, though...
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Hear, hear. Well said, old chap. If you read some real history (as opposed to the 'history' that's taught), you'll find out just how hard the UK had to beg (and threaten) to get ANY help from the US in the early days of the war. And the irony of it is that if the US had been a little less insular and had gone on the offensive against the Reich, Japan may never have bombed Pearl Harbour. Which happily means that those men on both sides wouldn't have died, but sadly means we would have missed out on a really great recent movie...

(Ye, that was a little sarcasm there, but the rest stands true.)

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So you have to us an @...or an # ...or $ to spell a word?

Really...get over it....at least there is SOME attempt to keep it decent around here.....and I am no prude...being an ex-sailor....I have the mouth to match some times...but I also know that it is often good to keep your language in check.

Roman
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Can use this word in many ways in a sentence. I say it all the time & see nothing wrong with it. Now the word poop offends me. So watch your language.

Mark
Tom Moerel said:
Wow, this forum is really going downhill. I tried to reply to a
post using the word cr@p. Apparently this word is too offensive and
it gets censored.
What is this forum? I thought this is a place where grown ups talk
about photography. Is a word like cr@p not daily common language?
Looks like the overzealous US prudish evangelism is affecting this
site now too!

Yuck! What a load of poo!
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Louisville, KY. USA

Why do you have to 'put your two cents in'.. but it's only a 'penny for your thoughts'? Where's that extra penny going to?

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MTT said:
Can use this word in many ways in a sentence. I say it all the time
& see nothing wrong with it.
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Really? I don't even know what 'cratp' means... I suppose if I went to an internet catfe (because my Amstrad ematiler is in for repair at our local branch of PC Repatirs) I could Google it...

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If you're really bored, you could visit my photo blog http://swarbrick.blogs.com
My 'work' photos are at http://www.swarbrick.com
The 'fun' stuff is at http://www.flickr.com/photos/swarbrick

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Tom Moerel said:
Tom Moerel said:
On this forum we can call someone a moron, tell them that their
mother smells of elderberries, and their father was a hamster, and
generally behave in a rude and boorish manner, but we cannot use
basic words like cr@p.
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Exactly! And all i am hoping is that this will not get worse. DPR
now being in the hands of Amazon means it is in the hands of a US
company. I hope they will not impose the dubious prudish US
standards on us. After all this was originally a UK run forum.
But well, as all so many others, it has sold out to some US jokers.

BTW... see how i call it US and not America. There is a good
reason: America is the denomination for two whole continents.
Calling your country America and thereby discounting a great number
of other countries that are also part of the Americas is either
ignorant or blatantly arrogant. I just hope that this way of
thinking will stay off this forum.

Sorry for the OT subject but i just had to vent some steam.....
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What a bunch of ignorant eurotrash nonsense. You obviously have no idea what standards are in America.
 
Mark D said:
When I was a much younger man I worked with a great gentleman who
was 20 years my senior. When ever I would swear he would tell me
this one simple phrase " Swearing is the attempt of a feeble mind
trying to express itself forcefully." Since then I have always
tried to find a proper word that would express the feeling and
context which I am trying to convey.
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Clearly your friend was too reserved or perhaps not as eloquent as he thought. The Vulgate is here to be used, and there's nothing that expresses a raw emotion like a good swear word sometimes; or perhaps a string of them while you practice your alliteration skills.

Restraining oneself when faced with say, an application like Adobe's pathetic, constantly crashing, newly revised but just as horrible LR v1.1 is just not rewarding. I draw the line at kicking things, but my ire for Adobe needs, nay warrants, full vocal and vociferous expression at their marvelous incompetence.

Why, there's even a fluency that comes to those practicing regular swearing that is hard to match by dabbling dilettantes, and this high art should be appreciated by connoisseurs, aficionados, and developing teenagers everywhere.

To restrain one self in the face of a Dim Decider babble, MS operating systems, and/or congress is an abberation! Swear on I say, and be proud!!
 
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