My first Digit cam 3040z or C-700

Yes well...i called you a moron because you kept attacking me even
if i did not reply to you.
I wasn't attacking you... I was disagreeing with what you had to say and pointing out the discrepancies. If that's what you call a personal attack, then I'm guilty.
Like i said, personal attack makes me angry and make me say things
i don,t mean. Its just that i have to justify myself for my
opinion each time and its like the same feeling as when you have to
explain everything in detail to a 5 year old kid. I think you know
what i mean since you have kids.
I asked one question that was also on someone's mind so it's not just me. That was not a personal attack. Maybe if the other guy had asked it then it wouldn't have been.
Ok please can we stop this nonsense or just take it privatly in email?
Sure, you can email me as easily as I can email you, you know.
 
I am not sure what you are talking about here, can you point me to
that ?
Oh no, I'm not falling for THAT again. You asked me once before to provide a link to prove what I was saying was true and when I did, you ridiculed me for doing it.
I have not seen Phill give a bad review to the c2100, quite opposite.
It may not have been Phil's review but you DID point out part of a review that was unflattering to the 2100 and waved it like a flag.
I don't remember even saying what Phill said about the c2100 was
not true, beside the white balance.

My opinion is not more valid than yours, its just my opinion, but i
am entlitled to it and nobody should be attacked for his or her
opinion.
What is an attack to you... disagreeing? You do that to others all the time.
I do know that Phill made mistake in specs, that is not a lie and
its fair to say he does. Has for the c2100, only mistake i have
noticed so far is the manual white balance, so i don,t understand
your post much. can you give me the link?
 
Terry has never called you any unflattering names on this forum. But when you take exception to something he says you have come up with some rather nasty things. If you can't accept that most of the people here are expressing their opinions then maybe you should just leave.

Karen
Yes well...i called you a moron because you kept attacking me even
if i did not reply to you.

Like i said, personal attack makes me angry and make me say things
i don,t mean. Its just that i have to justify myself for my
opinion each time and its like the same feeling as when you have to
explain everything in detail to a 5 year old kid. I think you know
what i mean since you have kids.

Ok please can we stop this nonsense or just take it privatly in email?

--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
well, good thing i am not his boss and he is not mine...chances are there would be some sparks :) not necessary romantics one!

You're totally right about those litte stupid cameras, they are just objects and don,t care about anything. I guess we both have quite a temper, but i just don't like when people are bashing on me when i am talking about an object.

If they don't agree with me all they have to do is prove me wrong...not saying i am hiding this or liying on that....that makes me angry and then i say things i do not mean.
Going to have to put a wall up between the two of you. The C-2100
and the C-700 are just stupid little cameras. They don't care who
buys them or uses them. In five years time they are sure to be
completely outdated, hopefully still usable, but out dated.

Its such a waste of emotion to get worked up over such a trivial
things. Truthfully I don't mind reading your little spats, they
are quite amuzing, but there comes a point that one wonders if you
two weren't romantically involved in a past life or something.
--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
I think that you mean everything you say

Karen
You're totally right about those litte stupid cameras, they are
just objects and don,t care about anything. I guess we both have
quite a temper, but i just don't like when people are bashing on me
when i am talking about an object.

If they don't agree with me all they have to do is prove me
wrong...not saying i am hiding this or liying on that....that makes
me angry and then i say things i do not mean.
Going to have to put a wall up between the two of you. The C-2100
and the C-700 are just stupid little cameras. They don't care who
buys them or uses them. In five years time they are sure to be
completely outdated, hopefully still usable, but out dated.

Its such a waste of emotion to get worked up over such a trivial
things. Truthfully I don't mind reading your little spats, they
are quite amuzing, but there comes a point that one wonders if you
two weren't romantically involved in a past life or something.
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
Now how would you know what i mean?
Karen
You're totally right about those litte stupid cameras, they are
just objects and don,t care about anything. I guess we both have
quite a temper, but i just don't like when people are bashing on me
when i am talking about an object.

If they don't agree with me all they have to do is prove me
wrong...not saying i am hiding this or liying on that....that makes
me angry and then i say things i do not mean.
Going to have to put a wall up between the two of you. The C-2100
and the C-700 are just stupid little cameras. They don't care who
buys them or uses them. In five years time they are sure to be
completely outdated, hopefully still usable, but out dated.

Its such a waste of emotion to get worked up over such a trivial
things. Truthfully I don't mind reading your little spats, they
are quite amuzing, but there comes a point that one wonders if you
two weren't romantically involved in a past life or something.
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
well, good thing i am not his boss and he is not mine...chances are
there would be some sparks :) not necessary romantics one!

You're totally right about those litte stupid cameras, they are
just objects and don,t care about anything. I guess we both have
quite a temper, but i just don't like when people are bashing on me
when i am talking about an object.

If they don't agree with me all they have to do is prove me
wrong...not saying i am hiding this or liying on that....that makes
me angry and then i say things i do not mean.
You get upset when people speak unflatteringly about your "object". In fact, some things people have said really "pissed" you off and you said so. And when you no longer have an answer, you resort to name-calling while, at the same time, playing the victim and claiming your were personally attacked. That's a pity game you're playing. Show me where I attacked you.
 
Daniella should be ahamed of herself for calling Terry a moron. Hot debate is fine , and I enjoy it myself, but to stoop to outright namecalling is totally uncalled for. Terry has conducted himself as a gentleman and refuses to engage in such cheap tactics as namecalling. JD
Karen
Yes well...i called you a moron because you kept attacking me even
if i did not reply to you.

Like i said, personal attack makes me angry and make me say things
i don,t mean. Its just that i have to justify myself for my
opinion each time and its like the same feeling as when you have to
explain everything in detail to a 5 year old kid. I think you know
what i mean since you have kids.

Ok please can we stop this nonsense or just take it privatly in email?

--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
Yes well, like i said i did say things i did not mean and yes i am ashme of myself for calling him a moron, but he was acting like one, so that reduce the shame a bit.

Has for gentleman...man...good thing all gentleman are not like that! Many people noticed he was rude with me...that's why i stopped replying to him. and after some point i lost patience and got angry and called him a moron. I guess many people would have also say this.

I am not perfect and i am a human being and i can make mistake too.
Karen
Yes well...i called you a moron because you kept attacking me even
if i did not reply to you.

Like i said, personal attack makes me angry and make me say things
i don,t mean. Its just that i have to justify myself for my
opinion each time and its like the same feeling as when you have to
explain everything in detail to a 5 year old kid. I think you know
what i mean since you have kids.

Ok please can we stop this nonsense or just take it privatly in email?

--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
I have read many of your posts. From this I came to the conclusion that you mean everything you say.

Karen
Karen
You're totally right about those litte stupid cameras, they are
just objects and don,t care about anything. I guess we both have
quite a temper, but i just don't like when people are bashing on me
when i am talking about an object.

If they don't agree with me all they have to do is prove me
wrong...not saying i am hiding this or liying on that....that makes
me angry and then i say things i do not mean.
Going to have to put a wall up between the two of you. The C-2100
and the C-700 are just stupid little cameras. They don't care who
buys them or uses them. In five years time they are sure to be
completely outdated, hopefully still usable, but out dated.

Its such a waste of emotion to get worked up over such a trivial
things. Truthfully I don't mind reading your little spats, they
are quite amuzing, but there comes a point that one wonders if you
two weren't romantically involved in a past life or something.
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
its your opinion.
Karen
Karen
You're totally right about those litte stupid cameras, they are
just objects and don,t care about anything. I guess we both have
quite a temper, but i just don't like when people are bashing on me
when i am talking about an object.

If they don't agree with me all they have to do is prove me
wrong...not saying i am hiding this or liying on that....that makes
me angry and then i say things i do not mean.
Going to have to put a wall up between the two of you. The C-2100
and the C-700 are just stupid little cameras. They don't care who
buys them or uses them. In five years time they are sure to be
completely outdated, hopefully still usable, but out dated.

Its such a waste of emotion to get worked up over such a trivial
things. Truthfully I don't mind reading your little spats, they
are quite amuzing, but there comes a point that one wonders if you
two weren't romantically involved in a past life or something.
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
well sorry lady, but i thought his way of talking to me was rude, as others have also noticed.

I guess i don,t have to talk to you anyway...because obviously you are not impartial.
Karen
Yes well...i called you a moron because you kept attacking me even
if i did not reply to you.

Like i said, personal attack makes me angry and make me say things
i don,t mean. Its just that i have to justify myself for my
opinion each time and its like the same feeling as when you have to
explain everything in detail to a 5 year old kid. I think you know
what i mean since you have kids.

Ok please can we stop this nonsense or just take it privatly in email?

--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
The point is..i always was talking about a camera..never about a person..

YOU are talking about ME..capitch?

that's where the personal attack is. if you disagree with what i say, just prove me wrong by bringing new arguments into a civilize discussion but don,t go bashing on me, saying i am lying, hiding things or trying to mislead people.

that is personal attacks. Can't you see the difference here? If you think what i say is not true...bring arguments to prove i am wrong..like i did for the c700 photos and Phill review...i did take photos that did not had that much CA or that much hot pixels...just do the same.

am i making any sense here?

I don't think its so hard to understand the difference. If you have something to say about the c700 then say it. if i disagree i will bring my own arguments, but i will not say you are lying or hiding things, or misleading people..that is personal attacks.
well, good thing i am not his boss and he is not mine...chances are
there would be some sparks :) not necessary romantics one!

You're totally right about those litte stupid cameras, they are
just objects and don,t care about anything. I guess we both have
quite a temper, but i just don't like when people are bashing on me
when i am talking about an object.

If they don't agree with me all they have to do is prove me
wrong...not saying i am hiding this or liying on that....that makes
me angry and then i say things i do not mean.
You get upset when people speak unflatteringly about your "object".
In fact, some things people have said really "pissed" you off and
you said so. And when you no longer have an answer, you resort to
name-calling while, at the same time, playing the victim and
claiming your were personally attacked. That's a pity game you're
playing. Show me where I attacked you.
--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
Terry Thorn wrote:
That's a pity game you're
playing. Show me where I attacked you.
want more? here is some pick of the day....i got more if this is not enough:

------

The thing that bothers me about Daniella's posts are the underlying deceptions she uses to sell people on HER favorite camera. SHE can handhold the 700 at incredibly low shutter speeds and get the sharp photos she gets which is great if she's truly not using ANY supplemental stabilization. But she gives the notion to other people that THEY can do the same thing with a C700 which I feel is purposely misleading camera shoppers.

Like I stated before, she also likes to point to bad reviews on the 2100 but if there's a bad review on the C700, she insists that people ignore it and believe what SHE says. There again, a deceptive practice.

I also noted how different her typing style is at times and it's not just a little different which I find strange. Sometimes she can barely punctuate a sentence correctly and then others times her posts are near perfect.
-------------

geee...can,t hardly beleive you even attacked me on my spelling!

still want more?

---------------

Also, from reading your messages, it appears that, at times, you can type with perfect clarity, grammar, and spelling and then there are times where your words are quite the opposite. It's as if you're two entirely different people.
-------------

Twice!!! you attacked me on my spelling again...sorry if i am not perfectly bilingual, but that type of comments don,t make me want to learn english faster.

still want more? i can copy a full page of these.....although i stopped reading yours message some time ago...i don't really want to have to read them now.

again, you are alwasy talking me, a person when i did nothing but to talk about a camera...an object.

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
Terry Thorn wrote:
Show me where I attacked you.

-------------------

Here again your facts are distorted, Daniella. Leo said "BELOW 1/200th" at full zoom and at least one other C700 owner agreed with the fact that taking fully zoomed shots at slow shutter speeds was extremely difficult. No one else agreed with your assertion that most anybody can take sharp handheld shots with a C700 at slow shutter speeds. Leo didn't dispute your claims though. Apparently, you're practically in a class by yourself. You should be flattered

Looking at your messages, it's amazing how your spelling and grammer changes so drastically. Totally inconsistent.

-----------------

and again!!! this did not stopped until i got tired and angry and called you a moron...they you stopped. Is that what it take to make you stop personal attack?

You know usually its very hard to find anything in this forum, but finding post where you bashed me is so easy..there are lots of them!

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
The point is..i always was talking about a camera..never about a
person..
Yes, you were talking about a camera or more precisely "comparing" cameras again. You thought I was talking about the 2100's LCD so you decided to "compare" it to the C700's LCD. Since you referred to a review you often discount as being inaccurate, I wondered why you would do this and asked you so. Instead of answering as you did later, you blew up. If I hadn't asked, Dwight1973 would probably have done it. The point is that you can't discuss cameras without the lopsided comparisons. You don't see me always pointing out advantages of the 2100 over the C700 without being asked. You do that very often.
YOU are talking about ME..capitch?

that's where the personal attack is. if you disagree with what i
say, just prove me wrong by bringing new arguments into a civilize
discussion but don,t go bashing on me, saying i am lying, hiding
things or trying to mislead people.
What proof could I have brought into your latest "comparison"? Should I dig up a review or someone's opinion that the LCD on the 2100 was better? What good would that do? You'd only discount it as you discount any other negative remarks about the C700. I didn't say you were lying, hiding, or misleading people. I asked you a question... period. You can read whatever you want into that.
that is personal attacks. Can't you see the difference here? If
you think what i say is not true...bring arguments to prove i am
wrong..like i did for the c700 photos and Phill review...i did take
photos that did not had that much CA or that much hot pixels...just
do the same.
That's grand. Are you trying to say that's the way ALL C700's perform? Phil's C700 didn't perform as well as yours, obviously, and he reported what he saw and provided evidence. You discounted it. It seems to me you're calling Phil a liar. I've seen others report excessive CA, hot pixels, and noise too. Do you "discount" them as well?
am i making any sense here?

I don't think its so hard to understand the difference. If you
have something to say about the c700 then say it. if i disagree i
will bring my own arguments, but i will not say you are lying or
hiding things, or misleading people..that is personal attacks.
But you HAVE done that to me. Don't you remember?
 
playing. Show me where I attacked you.
want more? here is some pick of the day....i got more if this is
not enough:

------
The thing that bothers me about Daniella's posts are the underlying
deceptions she uses to sell people on HER favorite camera. SHE can
handhold the 700 at incredibly low shutter speeds and get the sharp
photos she gets which is great if she's truly not using ANY
supplemental stabilization. But she gives the notion to other
people that THEY can do the same thing with a C700 which I feel is
purposely misleading camera shoppers.

Like I stated before, she also likes to point to bad reviews on the
2100 but if there's a bad review on the C700, she insists that
people ignore it and believe what SHE says. There again, a
deceptive practice.

I also noted how different her typing style is at times and it's
not just a little different which I find strange. Sometimes she can
barely punctuate a sentence correctly and then others times her
posts are near perfect.
-------------

geee...can,t hardly beleive you even attacked me on my spelling!

still want more?
As I remember that, someone was asking or commenting about my problem with you. I answered. As for your spelling, that's incorrect. I wasn't criticizing your SPELLING... I was questioning WHY your spelling and grammar was sometimes PERFECT, and I mean PERFECT, and other times it was hardly decipherable. I found that odd. I never criticize people's spelling as I'm not a perfect speller either.
---------------
Also, from reading your messages, it appears that, at times, you
can type with perfect clarity, grammar, and spelling and then there
are times where your words are quite the opposite. It's as if
you're two entirely different people.
-------------

Twice!!! you attacked me on my spelling again...sorry if i am not
perfectly bilingual, but that type of comments don,t make me want
to learn english faster.
Again, you're misrepresented the facts. I wanted to know why your writing styles changed so drastically. I understand that your native language isn't English but sometimes you type with the grammar, punctuation, and accuracy of a teacher. It's almost as if there were two entirely people using the same name.
still want more? i can copy a full page of these.....although i
stopped reading yours message some time ago...i don't really want
to have to read them now.

again, you are alwasy talking me, a person when i did nothing but
to talk about a camera...an object.
Actually, you were doing something I thought we'd agreed would stop... "comparing" your C700 against the 2100. If they're just "objects", why do you get this chip on your shoulder and do this so much? Others can't get away with talking about your favorite "object" without having to deal with you. Practically from the first time you posted on this forum, you've been "defending" the C700. Obviously, it's not just an "object" to you.
 
Also i never made any assertion that anybody can take sharp handheld shot with the c700, i said i could. i still can and i don't have problem with this. Like Bill, i don't throw away many photos if any.

Again, you are accusing me of doing things i did not do. Again this is a personal attack. Like Inigo has mentioned before, If most c2100 users cannot take as good photos as Bob S can, does it mean Bob is misleading people by showing his photos?

Here is a post from Bill:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=2079096

and your reply:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=2079579

His he misleading people as well? why you did not say he was misleading people as well when he mentioned he rarely have to throw away photos because of blur?

So as pathetic as it can seam to you, please stop your personal attack on me and if you think i said something that is not true, just prove that i am wrong by showing tests results etc..by talking about cameras instead of bashing me with personal attack.
Terry Thorn wrote:
Show me where I attacked you.

-------------------

Here again your facts are distorted, Daniella. Leo said "BELOW
1/200th" at full zoom and at least one other C700 owner agreed with
the fact that taking fully zoomed shots at slow shutter speeds was
extremely difficult. No one else agreed with your assertion that
most anybody can take sharp handheld shots with a C700 at slow
shutter speeds. Leo didn't dispute your claims though. Apparently,
you're practically in a class by yourself. You should be flattered

Looking at your messages, it's amazing how your spelling and
grammer changes so drastically. Totally inconsistent.

-----------------

and again!!! this did not stopped until i got tired and angry and
called you a moron...they you stopped. Is that what it take to
make you stop personal attack?

You know usually its very hard to find anything in this forum, but
finding post where you bashed me is so easy..there are lots of them!

--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 
I was referring to THIS thread here... not the entire history of the forum. Again, you're misrepresenting the truth. But anyway, the thread you pointed to was in response to your rebuttal to Leo's examples of IS in action. He "attacked" your favorite "object" and you responded with inaccuracies. Do you have a real bad problem reading and comprehending? I posted a picture of an airplane in flight with the propellor nearly frozen in response to someone's request to see that and you criticzed me for not posting THAT instead of a picture of a JET engine.
Terry Thorn wrote:
Show me where I attacked you.

-------------------

Here again your facts are distorted, Daniella. Leo said "BELOW
1/200th" at full zoom and at least one other C700 owner agreed with
the fact that taking fully zoomed shots at slow shutter speeds was
extremely difficult. No one else agreed with your assertion that
most anybody can take sharp handheld shots with a C700 at slow
shutter speeds. Leo didn't dispute your claims though. Apparently,
you're practically in a class by yourself. You should be flattered

Looking at your messages, it's amazing how your spelling and
grammer changes so drastically. Totally inconsistent.

-----------------

and again!!! this did not stopped until i got tired and angry and
called you a moron...they you stopped. Is that what it take to
make you stop personal attack?
Wrong, I didn't stop posting messages to you and you KNOW it. You even made the statement that I kept on responding to you.
You know usually its very hard to find anything in this forum, but
finding post where you bashed me is so easy..there are lots of them!
 
Yes, you were talking about a camera or more precisely "comparing"
cameras again. You thought I was talking about the 2100's LCD so
you decided to "compare" it to the C700's LCD. Since you referred
to a review you often discount as being inaccurate, I wondered why
you would do this and asked you so. Instead of answering as you did
later, you blew up. If I hadn't asked, Dwight1973 would probably
have done it. The point is that you can't discuss cameras without
the lopsided comparisons. You don't see me always pointing out
advantages of the 2100 over the C700 without being asked. You do
that very often.
So what if i did? i was still talking about a camera, all you had to do was explain what you can see very clearly in sunlight with your LCD on the c2100 and that you were talking about the c3040, no need to resort to personal attack.
What proof could I have brought into your latest "comparison"?
Should I dig up a review or someone's opinion that the LCD on the
2100 was better?
no simply tell me your opinion on the C2100 LCD instead of doing those personal attack. geee i think that is easy to understand the difference here.

What good would that do? You'd only discount it as
you discount any other negative remarks about the C700. I didn't
say you were lying, hiding, or misleading people. I asked you a
question... period.
what was the question again? sorry because i thought you saying:

"so you agree with Phil's review and use it to back yourself up when it says something POSITIVE. You only seem to disagree with the NEGATIVE findings and urge people to disgregard them."

was first, not a question, second was like saying i am using the information i want in order to mislead people.

You can read whatever you want into that.

If its not what you meant then please explain what you meant by this?

again, i was talking about a camera and you are saying things about me.
That's grand. Are you trying to say that's the way ALL C700's
perform? Phil's C700 didn't perform as well as yours, obviously,
and he reported what he saw and provided evidence. You discounted
it. It seems to me you're calling Phil a liar. I've seen others
report excessive CA, hot pixels, and noise too. Do you "discount"
them as well?
no i am simply comparing my observations with other observation and then i comment on them according to my observation. I do know that some people had problem with hot pixels and after a firmware upgrade that fixed it. I also never called Phill a liar! where is that coming from???

I simply said that he did not take the time to adjust the camera correctly or he had a defective camera, again to my opinion.

I never said he was a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But you HAVE done that to me. Don't you remember?
Again i have only after being pushed to the limit of my patiente. I did ignore your post for couple of weeks but after being bashed over and over and you did never stop..i was tired of it and angry, what's your excuse?

Before if i remember correctly, you started your personal attack on my long before i did any personal comment on you.

I even tried ignoring you forever..and if it would not have been for TIM i would probably still do and will probably do that from now on..i see there is just no point.

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi
 

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