Dear friends, I'm thinking about buying the new coolpix5000 when it'll be avaible here in Italy, but it's very expensive, so I want to be sure this is really the best for a non-professional user, but one who wants to have really GREAT pics with high definition and really printable photos even in A3 format without...surprises!! Thanx to anyone who will answer me.
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The truth about Coolpix5000?
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Thomas Bauer
Senior Member
Hi fede
Well you don't ask for much do ya (joking)
No camera as youknow will give you great pictures no mater what
if you are an amature like me, however, you'll be able to print
pictures larger than that that you are wondering about I've gotten beautiful 11x14's so far, have bigger ones ordered but not back yet.
Thomas
Jason Iocco
Well-known member
I have an F707 and I think it is a great camera also for large prints, detail, and Manual control.
R
Rich Gibson
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The preceding message was brought to you by a Sony forum poster.
I have the 5000. It is a great camera. I've owned the 900,950 and 990. It is considerably smaller and easier to carry than the 707. Every camera has its strengths and weaknesses. I am comfortable with the controls and find them easy to adjust to. It takes wonderful pictures. It has a rather steep learning curve but the effort is rewarding. I had planned to keep the 990 but I haven't touched it since the 5000 arrived.
You should really read many posts from the brand products you are interested in. No one can make up your mind for you. You have to consider how you want to use it, not just comparing speficications to specifications. That is as fruitless as comparing two athletes by their statistics. As I mentioned above the Sony has a powerful, but large lens. Are you going to shoot a lot of telephoto pictures? The 500 has an unusually wide angle lens which makes it great for closed spaces or rooms. Do you homework and decide for your self.
Rich
I have the 5000. It is a great camera. I've owned the 900,950 and 990. It is considerably smaller and easier to carry than the 707. Every camera has its strengths and weaknesses. I am comfortable with the controls and find them easy to adjust to. It takes wonderful pictures. It has a rather steep learning curve but the effort is rewarding. I had planned to keep the 990 but I haven't touched it since the 5000 arrived.
You should really read many posts from the brand products you are interested in. No one can make up your mind for you. You have to consider how you want to use it, not just comparing speficications to specifications. That is as fruitless as comparing two athletes by their statistics. As I mentioned above the Sony has a powerful, but large lens. Are you going to shoot a lot of telephoto pictures? The 500 has an unusually wide angle lens which makes it great for closed spaces or rooms. Do you homework and decide for your self.
Rich
Jason Iocco
Well-known member
The Preceding message was brought to you by a Nikon forum poster.
Ken Leonard
Veteran Member
The huge difference is that he posted a Nikon response in the Nikon forum. Strange how the Sony people are so curious about us.
I have owned lots of Sony products over the years but never a Sony Camera and very liekly I never will. But that's just me. Something that really irks me about Sony cameras is their proprietary memory sticks. If you take 20-450 shots per outing like I do the cost of memory sticks over CF cards can be huge.
I promise not to come over to the Sony Forum and tell them how good my CP 5000 is when I get it. Didn't have to go over there to tell the Sony forum how great my CP 990 with well over 30,000 shots is either.
I am sure Sony cameras are quite good, just not my own cup of tea.
Ken Leonard
I have owned lots of Sony products over the years but never a Sony Camera and very liekly I never will. But that's just me. Something that really irks me about Sony cameras is their proprietary memory sticks. If you take 20-450 shots per outing like I do the cost of memory sticks over CF cards can be huge.
I promise not to come over to the Sony Forum and tell them how good my CP 5000 is when I get it. Didn't have to go over there to tell the Sony forum how great my CP 990 with well over 30,000 shots is either.
I am sure Sony cameras are quite good, just not my own cup of tea.
Ken Leonard
R
Rich Gibson
Guest
Exactly! In a Nikon forum. Will you please go away and stop trashing Nikon cameras? I don't go to Canon and Sony to trash their cameras (Since I don't own one I don't pontificate on them...get the hint?) Bye bye.
Rich
Rich
Zoltan Csuka
Leading Member
The best cameras (like the best people) will have the most enemies (envy people). No reason to get defensive or comment on it. You wont see this in other forums because of the same reason.
Yes, how dare you utter another brand name while participating in the insular Nikon forum. You shall put no cameras before Nikon.
I think they should require a Nikon serial number as password before this forum even becomes visible, just keep the infidel traffic down.
Peter (sold my Nikon and apparently my soul ;-)
I think they should require a Nikon serial number as password before this forum even becomes visible, just keep the infidel traffic down.
Peter (sold my Nikon and apparently my soul ;-)
Ken Leonard
Veteran Member
"Peter (sold my Nikon and apparently my soul ;-)"
Then you should be proud to post on the forum that bears the brand of your camera. Posting a worthwhile comparisons of two different branded cameras is quite fine, in factIMO I would encourage this. However to just come here to flame is not good for anyone now is it?
Then you should be proud to post on the forum that bears the brand of your camera. Posting a worthwhile comparisons of two different branded cameras is quite fine, in factIMO I would encourage this. However to just come here to flame is not good for anyone now is it?
Ron Baker57358
Senior Member
I tend to agree. The subject of the post was related specifically to the CP5000. Original poster did not ask what was the "best" digicam in your opinion. Any post which had anything to do with other than the 5000 is flame bait, period. The 707 poster was wrong IMHO. I do agree that one shouldn't fuel the poster. The best thing is just to ignore the post without comment.
Ron
Ron
Ravitej Khalsa
Senior Member
The Nikon CP5000 is a very competent camera, but it is harder to learn and understand. It is a bit of a mini-pro camera. The lens is weighted toward the wide angle side. There are telephoto lenses to add on to it, but they will cost more. There seems to be more things you can add to it to make it almost a professional camera, but they add more cost. The 1099 US$ becomes at least 50% more. Worth it for many people. Nice feel to the camera, less plastic and more of a traditonal look. This is a camera for the professional or aspire to be professional.
The Sony 707 is a great camera too. Less things one has to buy. It has the same 5MP CCD as the CP5000 and so will give nice big files for big prints. Some people like the color management on the Nikon, some on this camera. Look at photos from both camps to see what appeals to you. This camera may be easier to use. It has a great lens that is less wide, but more telephoto - more general use. One has to grab the lens to hold it - many people prefer that, makes it feel more like a video camera. Lots of people absolutely love this camera. This is a good all around camera that will give great prints.
The Minolta Dimage 7 also uses this same 5MP CCD. That means it will give you the ability for those same bigger prints. The lens goes from wide angle to telephoto that encompasses both the Sony and Nikon's abilities. Very usefull for family and general use. The trade off is that is has to generalize more and give great but not superb photos. But, this is also very minimal. It uses it's own color managment system and creates an extra step for Photoshop users. If that's not you - doesn't really matter. Some reports have said the camera feels cheap. has odd controls and is little clunky. That wide to long lens seems like a real asset in a all-in-one camera.
Sony makes the 5MP CCD that all the above use.
The Canon G2 is more compact and has a few less pixels. But, for most family shooters, it works well. Canon has made some of the best point and shoot cameras ever and this one is nice and compact. Canon is right there with Nikon with lenses. In the top professional Kodak DCS series camera, only two manufacturers ever worked with Kodak - Nikon and Canon. If you want a camera to stick in your pocket - the Canon won't let you down.
Canon also makes a true pocket camera - The digital Elph series. The pixels are a little less again at 3.3, but maybe that is all you really need. That will give you good 8X10's. And if you get a program like Genuine Fractals and work with a photo - 11X14. It is unbelieveably small. My wife is taking a film Elph to Africa soon. Just stick in your pocket.
Personally, I went with the CD5000 as I was accustomed to working with professional photographers. They all had Nikons - DCS and D1X series and Nikon film cameras. I need to have some commercial application available to me and felt the Nikon was closer to the pro side of it. It is indeed harder to learn, but the results have been great and I have more possibilities.
I do hope this has shed some light on your understanding. These are all my perceptions and opinions I have experienced and heard. You will certainly have other goals and reasons to chose one of these fine cameras. Since these tools have gone over 5 MP it's a whole new world for digital. Please look at the other forums here and the great reviews on this and Steve's Reviews website. Decide what you want to use the camera for and what abilities and limitations you have - find the camera that fits your needs from these reviews. It may not be the Nikon.
The Sony 707 is a great camera too. Less things one has to buy. It has the same 5MP CCD as the CP5000 and so will give nice big files for big prints. Some people like the color management on the Nikon, some on this camera. Look at photos from both camps to see what appeals to you. This camera may be easier to use. It has a great lens that is less wide, but more telephoto - more general use. One has to grab the lens to hold it - many people prefer that, makes it feel more like a video camera. Lots of people absolutely love this camera. This is a good all around camera that will give great prints.
The Minolta Dimage 7 also uses this same 5MP CCD. That means it will give you the ability for those same bigger prints. The lens goes from wide angle to telephoto that encompasses both the Sony and Nikon's abilities. Very usefull for family and general use. The trade off is that is has to generalize more and give great but not superb photos. But, this is also very minimal. It uses it's own color managment system and creates an extra step for Photoshop users. If that's not you - doesn't really matter. Some reports have said the camera feels cheap. has odd controls and is little clunky. That wide to long lens seems like a real asset in a all-in-one camera.
Sony makes the 5MP CCD that all the above use.
The Canon G2 is more compact and has a few less pixels. But, for most family shooters, it works well. Canon has made some of the best point and shoot cameras ever and this one is nice and compact. Canon is right there with Nikon with lenses. In the top professional Kodak DCS series camera, only two manufacturers ever worked with Kodak - Nikon and Canon. If you want a camera to stick in your pocket - the Canon won't let you down.
Canon also makes a true pocket camera - The digital Elph series. The pixels are a little less again at 3.3, but maybe that is all you really need. That will give you good 8X10's. And if you get a program like Genuine Fractals and work with a photo - 11X14. It is unbelieveably small. My wife is taking a film Elph to Africa soon. Just stick in your pocket.
Personally, I went with the CD5000 as I was accustomed to working with professional photographers. They all had Nikons - DCS and D1X series and Nikon film cameras. I need to have some commercial application available to me and felt the Nikon was closer to the pro side of it. It is indeed harder to learn, but the results have been great and I have more possibilities.
I do hope this has shed some light on your understanding. These are all my perceptions and opinions I have experienced and heard. You will certainly have other goals and reasons to chose one of these fine cameras. Since these tools have gone over 5 MP it's a whole new world for digital. Please look at the other forums here and the great reviews on this and Steve's Reviews website. Decide what you want to use the camera for and what abilities and limitations you have - find the camera that fits your needs from these reviews. It may not be the Nikon.
R
Rich Gibson
Guest
"Shed some light?" Ravi your post should be put in the FAQ file! Moreover you didn't denigrate any of the cameras or their users. My compliments.
Rich
Ravitej Khalsa wrote:
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Rich
Ravitej Khalsa wrote:
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Anthony Medici
Veteran Member
As you can see from the responses, everyone is defensive about what is the 'best'. I own neither the Sony 707, the Nikon 5000, the Canon G2 nor the Olympus E20.
I do own the Nikon D1H, a Kodak 4800, a Sony S50 and a Casio Qv-4000. My brother owns the Olympus E10. My sister the Minolta D7.
What we have determined is that there is no 'best' camera. There are only good and bad points about all the cameras. The problem is one person's good point is another persons bad point. I complain the E10 is not fast enough for long enough, my brother complains that the D1H is too heavy. My sister thinks neither has enough resolution.
So we all agree to disagree. All of the 5 mp cameras are good enough to print great pictures in A3 size. (on a good printer, and no, I'm not going to get into what a good printer is here!) And all of them can take bad enough pictures that you would not want to print them in any size!
So, I really don't care if the Canon guys, and the Sony guys, and the Olympus guys or anyone else comes here and say that they think that their camera is the best BECAUSE for them, it is! And yes, even the Nikon guys can say that the 5000 is the best, even though in my opinion it is too small, too slow and I wish it had a fix lens instead of a moving lens. But that might be why you think the 5000 is the best. Because it is small and that lens does retract.
Tony
PS: as for answering the original question. No, like Phil says, no one can say that the camera will be the best for you. There are only those features that will annoy you more than all the others. And then you decide which camera doesn't have that feature. Therefore, it's the 'best' for you!
I do own the Nikon D1H, a Kodak 4800, a Sony S50 and a Casio Qv-4000. My brother owns the Olympus E10. My sister the Minolta D7.
What we have determined is that there is no 'best' camera. There are only good and bad points about all the cameras. The problem is one person's good point is another persons bad point. I complain the E10 is not fast enough for long enough, my brother complains that the D1H is too heavy. My sister thinks neither has enough resolution.
So we all agree to disagree. All of the 5 mp cameras are good enough to print great pictures in A3 size. (on a good printer, and no, I'm not going to get into what a good printer is here!) And all of them can take bad enough pictures that you would not want to print them in any size!
So, I really don't care if the Canon guys, and the Sony guys, and the Olympus guys or anyone else comes here and say that they think that their camera is the best BECAUSE for them, it is! And yes, even the Nikon guys can say that the 5000 is the best, even though in my opinion it is too small, too slow and I wish it had a fix lens instead of a moving lens. But that might be why you think the 5000 is the best. Because it is small and that lens does retract.
Tony
PS: as for answering the original question. No, like Phil says, no one can say that the camera will be the best for you. There are only those features that will annoy you more than all the others. And then you decide which camera doesn't have that feature. Therefore, it's the 'best' for you!
Ric Blessing
Leading Member
I don't know about flaming (or if it even occurred here), but seriously folks, aren't you a little defensive?
I own a Canon G1, went with two friends to buy a Nikon 995 and Oly 3020 recently (best for their individual needs), and surf several of these forums for info. I even post here once in a while.
I own a Canon G1, went with two friends to buy a Nikon 995 and Oly 3020 recently (best for their individual needs), and surf several of these forums for info. I even post here once in a while.
Anthony Medici
Veteran Member
budhines
Leading Member
Ravitej, how refreshing! An intelligent thoughtful reply! You've renewed my faith!....Bud Hines
budhines
Leading Member
Rich, we all get your "hint". Tell me, did you buy your nikon or give birth to it?
Bud
Bud
Ben Hoogendoorn
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ssshhhh.... the important thing is, that secretly, both Tony and I know that Nikon really IS the best camera. But I'm big enough not to rub anyones nose in it. (I kill me!!)
Am I the only one with a sense of humor around here?
Ben
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