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Pixel mapping option on the menu.

Even my old Olympus C-5050z has this.

For that matter, they can put this into the D200 with the next firmware release.

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Particularly because DoF is more dependent on the lens than on the camera with the exception of the crop factor.

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Speed is significant and interesting but accuracy is downright fascinating
http://www.pbase.com/pradipta
 
If you use the same lens at the same position on FF or APC the DOF will be equal. Only when you mount a longer lens on the FF to get the same FOV as the APC has the DOF gets smaller. Therefore markings on a lens would work regardless of crop factor.
Pradipta Dutta said:
Particularly because DoF is more dependent on the lens than on the
camera with the exception of the crop factor.

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Speed is significant and interesting but accuracy is downright
fascinating
http://www.pbase.com/pradipta
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I don't know about everyone else, but I find the DOF visual indication to be pretty much just that "an indication" or more likely "a rough approximation" of how the image will look. Perhaps for a more capable photographer the current/tradtional DOF feature is useful, but I don't equate darkness with DOF real well. I'd rather know if for a given combination of equipment, aperture, and distance to the subject if the in-focus DOF is going to be 1/4" or a few few inches. At the end of the day it's mostly an additional software/firmware feature land I think it would be a handy feature to have readily accessible on one of the displays.

It kind of leads to a philosophical discussion. Does Nikon benefit from keeping photography a mysterious art which is limited only to people who can harness f stops, speeds, iso, and perhaps even manual focus, or does Nikon benefit from making the various aspects of photography simpler and more decipherable by more people? I think it's possible to design a camera in which pros can be entirely or largely insulated from features that are unwanted/not needed and lesser skilled photographers can reveal or access such features as wanted/needed.
Hans Giersberg said:
Why would you want a calculation when a visual indication of DOF is
already available.

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he's talking about software in the camera to do the calculation. it could pull lens information from any of the chipped lenses and camera information from the camera.

the generic point is: its about time the camera makers started leveraging the computing power they are building into the bodies to enhance the photography tasks and experience -- not just try to reproduce what the old film bodies used to do.

histograms are great. effects like B&W, Sepia and multi-exposure overlay are cute -- but its time for manufacturers to start thinking ahead. ...dav
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It would be handy to have a depth of field indication visible in the viewfinder. And it would be simple to do. They could make it so that the DOF is displayed where the number of remaining shots is if you press a button - the programmable one, perhaps. Or the DOF button, though that may not be possible depending on how it's wired. And, an option for choosing meters or feet, please! They might even be able to do this to the D200 in a firmware update. Wouldn't that be nice?

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Until recently lenses had DOF scales right on them. I wish they'd resume that practice.

No need for computations in the camera.

Ken Plotkin
 
This could well be possible. It was ingeniously done on the film Minolta Dynax 7. On the back LCD it showed a simple diagram consisting of a distance scale and an outline of the area that was in focus. A very handy tool that I missed on the digital 7D.
 
You mean like I select a clients name on the LCD and all photos taken after that moment are automatically linked to my client? Neat! :-)
 
exactomundo
  • in a far fetched (20 year out world), not only will film be largely gone except for nostaligic users, but cameras as we know them might be gone because they will be inside phones/pdas/portable computers/mp3/music players/you name it small gadgets that do multimedia including video with tons of resolution; obviously we don't see the dslr market going away any time soon, but if we would like to have more dslrs to choose from instead of less, the dslr manufacturers are going to have to keep innovating in ways that attract more users to the platform and retain users; no doubt great cameras like the D200 plus raising world affluence is making more high end digital cameras more popular with many new users, but I predict there is also some attrition of dslrs users moving down stream to point and shoot and some point and shoot attrition moving down stream to phones; I personally am an up streamer, but not a pro, so I'd like to see more features that help me move up stream; if Nikon and Canon didn't feel the need to placate pro egos, they'd find a way to put the green setting on the highest end bodies, and they just might do that if they decide there are more affluent novice buyers willilng to move upstream if so encouraged than there are pro buyers who would be turned off by having a green setting
you can recognize and go with the flow (and appear to be leading the market) or you can just do it the same way over and over, which will give someone the chance to sell the last roll of film and the last for pros only digital body
dannv said:
he's talking about software in the camera to do the calculation.
it could pull lens information from any of the chipped lenses and
camera information from the camera.

the generic point is: its about time the camera makers started
leveraging the computing power they are building into the bodies to
enhance the photography tasks and experience -- not just try to
reproduce what the old film bodies used to do.

histograms are great. effects like B&W, Sepia and multi-exposure
overlay are cute -- but its time for manufacturers to start
thinking ahead. ...dav
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don't wait for technology -- it won't wait for you
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with speed and reliability and affordability

sure it's there on the lens, but it's not really user friendly - the aperture is right on the lens too, but the manufacturers still give it to us in a digital readout in a display; the key is to turn data into useful information; all the hooks are already in the system architecture; it just takes some engineer to understand the mindset of not only the tradtional users but the many potential new users
Ken Plotkin said:
Until recently lenses had DOF scales right on them. I wish they'd
resume that practice.

No need for computations in the camera.

Ken Plotkin
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In twenty years time I expect my brainwaves to be captured by Bluetooth. Camera's will not be needed any more.
 
Absolutely hyperfocal would be a great great feature; it would help all sorts of new photography enthusiasts move from taking people pictures to landscapes; think about this; two features (DOF calculator and hyperfocal calculator) and we open the door to lots of new users taking more people and landscape photos; no technological breakthroughs are required; if we want more R&D to bring us high end features that are tougher to engineer, we ought to encourage plenty of upstream facilitating features for new photographers so they can get addicted to dslrs as their purchases will help fund R&D; R&D is ultimately a % of revenue; more revenue means more R&d; you know who is kicking butt right now on new photography features? Panasonic. 10x optical zoom, Image Stabilization, Leica supplied lenses, small compact easy to use cameras, a raft of models to choose from, new models continuously, and a bunch of interesting features like a calendar that shows what day of your vacation (day 1, day 2, etc) you took the photos. The high end should be the reference sell ("if we can sell to the most demanding pros, then we should be able to make good enough cameras for everyone"), and clearly Nikon has shown a desire to be in the P&S market. Nikon should want to GROW the market, and we Nikon fans should WANT THEM TO GROW the market, and GAIN MARKET SHARE. A little bit of love and attention to customers and new customers can go a long way.
Yadong Wang said:
would be more useful, esp for landscape.
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Man, that alone would seem to cause a pro to switch from N to C or C to N
Very cool idea!

And it could have an amateur app to; give me all the:
soccer photos
basketball photos
baseball photos
kid #1 photos
kid #n photos
etc
etc

customer make his own header list and appends them to the phots making them easily sortable

you better run to patent that idea (don't know if it's patentable, but it's a BIG idea); seems like we should have it by now though; must be on the way momentarily
Philip_F said:
You mean like I select a clients name on the LCD and all photos
taken after that moment are automatically linked to my client?
Neat! :-)
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I have a tiny slip of paper in my wallet: a DOF chart. I suppose you could bring all the might of modern computer power to bear, or you could have a tiny (2x4cm) piece of paper.

In fact, for the price of a significant piece of software, say $39.95, I'll send you a photocopy of my DOF chart.

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Tuktu Sijuktei
'Please tell me if the lens cap is on.'
 
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