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Canon goes wireless on P&S
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KellyM319468
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I guess that Canon feels pressured to jump on the Wi-Fi bandwagon with Nikon and Kodak. Personally Wi-Fi isn't high on my list of desired enhancements to the SD series. I don't think that I'm alone, because I haven't seen a lot of folks clamoring for Wi-Fi in this forum. I think that most folks would be much more excited about manual controls, a higher resolution LCD, or image stabilization.
Kelly
Kelly
Something like this on a small P&S is simply for the people that want to have all the latest and coolest gadgets but don't know much about photography. If they made a wireless adapter to connect to all cameras that attatched to all canons p&s cameras and prosumer cameras and connected to the computer instead of the printer, then it would sell rather well (at least, for those cameras that take raw anyway).
This is assuming that i read the translation properly. I think i'll wait for the english press release before downplaying it too far and making a fool of myself.
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This is assuming that i read the translation properly. I think i'll wait for the english press release before downplaying it too far and making a fool of myself.
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Wireless maybe good at one points but also adding the cost.
so we need to maximize the useage, such as the wireless button to take shot or zoom, power, etc. so it wil become usefull.
meanwhile canon need to work based on user input from the type they modified, such as from Ixus 430 series:
so we need to maximize the useage, such as the wireless button to take shot or zoom, power, etc. so it wil become usefull.
meanwhile canon need to work based on user input from the type they modified, such as from Ixus 430 series:
- need a bigger at least 2.2" and better LCD (brighter and more pixel)
- MP4 movie will be great
- More manual mode
- Less PF
nflanders2
Leading Member
There actually was a short article in the news of dpreview. But it is gone now. Did they show something, that shouldnt have been published yet?
kimnkk
Well-known member
I saw the headline too! But when i finished loading the front page, it was gone :-(
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nflanders2
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Most interestingly was that they were talking about a new camera (same picture as the link in the initial post of this thread), the haven't been "pre-warned" of. Maybe they have mistaken the "pre-warning" as a press-release ;-)
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Phil Askey
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Turns out we had been pre-warned but I'd missed the email, so it wasn't really fair of us to say we hadn't been. Story is back up now.
Phil Askey
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acorntree
Leading Member
okay so can't disable aiaf in auto mode, fine automode = p&s mode
but having a very useless print button in capture mode?! come on make it a review last shot button in capture mode.
Kodak dc4800 -> Canon SD550
but having a very useless print button in capture mode?! come on make it a review last shot button in capture mode.
Kodak dc4800 -> Canon SD550
nflanders2
Leading Member
but to me it appears that currently there is a convergance process in place: Mobile phones get better cameras (and mobile functionality -- of course -- but also including WiFi), digital cameras get also mobile functionality (only WiFi at the moment, but isn't GPRS or UMTS only a logical next step?).
In the pro dSLRs I can really understand that photogs are in a hurry sending the pics to their agencies (imagine the next football world cup: each stadium will be equipped with wireless LAN just for this purpose). But in the amateur category I don't see any value (at the moment).
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In the pro dSLRs I can really understand that photogs are in a hurry sending the pics to their agencies (imagine the next football world cup: each stadium will be equipped with wireless LAN just for this purpose). But in the amateur category I don't see any value (at the moment).
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Will be good for parties where you can get photos up on screen instantly, that is the only use for it. Also good for pro studio photographers but they wouldn't use this camera.
Other than that, it is a useless toy. until I own a complete Wifi house (ie no wires anywhere) this is pointless. Give me a card reader anyday.
Other than that, it is a useless toy. until I own a complete Wifi house (ie no wires anywhere) this is pointless. Give me a card reader anyday.
kimnkk
Well-known member
While i think it is possibly the most 'gimmiky' thing ever to be included on a point and shoot (and that says a lot); i think it does provide us with a very interesting insight into Canon's possible new line of design.
No doubt their new IXUS cameras next year will look more like something along those lines than the ones now, but i'm not sure if i'm impressed. The kind of gap left on the left seems useless and gives the impression of a bulkier camera (possibly due to the illusion of more pieces). I also don't like how the 'ring' around the lens has gone - makes the camera look bigger as the lens looks far smaller. Though i do like the two tone desgin - i hope they keep that aspect.
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No doubt their new IXUS cameras next year will look more like something along those lines than the ones now, but i'm not sure if i'm impressed. The kind of gap left on the left seems useless and gives the impression of a bulkier camera (possibly due to the illusion of more pieces). I also don't like how the 'ring' around the lens has gone - makes the camera look bigger as the lens looks far smaller. Though i do like the two tone desgin - i hope they keep that aspect.
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They also seem to be making there cameras curved which may look better (more fluid or whatever) I beleive it is not as practical. I am constantly resting the camera on things (bottom, left or right side depending) to try and elimnate shake in low light (ie. against a door frame). if that edge is now curved, the camera will now rock. You may not prefer teh old box shape of the IXUS 500 but IMHO it is better thant he curved shape of teh IXUS 750.
As for the wireless, it is probably something that is easy to add (ie. little R&D) rather than fix issues with the camera (like noise at high ISO like all cameras have).
As for the wireless, it is probably something that is easy to add (ie. little R&D) rather than fix issues with the camera (like noise at high ISO like all cameras have).
if the need is to transfer pics wirelessly to other devices nearby a more logical choice would've been bluetooth.
for sending pics while travelling grps would have been the way to go.
wifi is only available when i'm home (and due to battery issues i'd prefer using cable most of the times) or when in office (where i rarely have need to transfer pics from the camera).
for sending pics while travelling grps would have been the way to go.
wifi is only available when i'm home (and due to battery issues i'd prefer using cable most of the times) or when in office (where i rarely have need to transfer pics from the camera).
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Phil Askey
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Bluetooth? About 62 KB/sec.. Twenty two seconds to transfer a single 1.4 MB image. Basically there isn't a good solution right now, bluetooth is too slow, WiFi is too battery hungry, and while public WiFi would be the best use for this technology it doesn't yet exist.
Phil Askey
Editor / Owner, dpreview.com
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Glenn Haley
Senior Member
I wonder if it might be possible to receive the image from your camera using a WiFi Laptop and at the same time Bluetooth it to your cell phone (Motorola V3 for one example) which transmits by phone to any location in the world?
Glenn
Glenn
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Phil Askey
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a. Why do you need to WiFi it to your laptop?
b. Yes you could do that, have the camera produce a reduced version of the image (say 320x240) and punt it over Bluetooth.
Phil Askey
Editor / Owner, dpreview.com
b. Yes you could do that, have the camera produce a reduced version of the image (say 320x240) and punt it over Bluetooth.
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MSpivey
Well-known member
The Imaging Resource blurb says you can control the camera remotely from the WiFi enabled computer. I'm assuming it would run a version of Canon Remote Capture.
I do Pole Photography, and while I have solved the issues of zoom, shutter release, and video to the ground, it would be nice to control all the camera's functions from the ground.
I do understand that designing a camera for all the pole, kite, RC aircraft and heli, and blimp photographers might not be the biggest market, but............
I do Pole Photography, and while I have solved the issues of zoom, shutter release, and video to the ground, it would be nice to control all the camera's functions from the ground.
I do understand that designing a camera for all the pole, kite, RC aircraft and heli, and blimp photographers might not be the biggest market, but............
PuzzleGal
Senior Member
Is wifi going to give you enough coverage to work in that application?
I agree that this is a useless gimmick, cheap to add, and handy for the "hey, look what I can do!" crowd. I guesss if it gives you wireless controls through a computer, that's a useful feature, but didn't they have that on years ago with some other technology, that doesn't depend on having an external wireless network running?
As all the world's handheld electronic gadgets converge, I predict that two will continue as stand-alone product lines: Cameras and Calculators. There will continue to be a market for small cameras with components (like lens) too expensive to include for free in your phone/radio/gps/mp3 player/picture album/etc. And there will continue to be a market for really simple calculators with big physical buttons that you can feel as you press them.
Of course, every multi-gadget will eventually work as a simple camera and calculator. And it will talk to whatever networks people are using, and that will be handy. But this camera is just a gimmick.
I agree that this is a useless gimmick, cheap to add, and handy for the "hey, look what I can do!" crowd. I guesss if it gives you wireless controls through a computer, that's a useful feature, but didn't they have that on years ago with some other technology, that doesn't depend on having an external wireless network running?
As all the world's handheld electronic gadgets converge, I predict that two will continue as stand-alone product lines: Cameras and Calculators. There will continue to be a market for small cameras with components (like lens) too expensive to include for free in your phone/radio/gps/mp3 player/picture album/etc. And there will continue to be a market for really simple calculators with big physical buttons that you can feel as you press them.
Of course, every multi-gadget will eventually work as a simple camera and calculator. And it will talk to whatever networks people are using, and that will be handy. But this camera is just a gimmick.
Glenn Haley
Senior Member
Otherwise wouldn't you have to stop to download the images from a card?
The article says it exports the images directly to a source which seems to me faster than to stop shooting, remove the memory card and load it in the computer and start the download software.
I wonder if the computer software could be setup for a handsoff operation.
Glenn
The article says it exports the images directly to a source which seems to me faster than to stop shooting, remove the memory card and load it in the computer and start the download software.
I wonder if the computer software could be setup for a handsoff operation.
Glenn
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