EOS7Dmarkii vs Sony a6000 side-by-side shooting skiiers

[GARY FONG INC]

In this video, Gary Fong and Kyle Perison shoot skiiers side by side with lenses at a focal length of 200mm to see how the autofocus performance and drive speed are comparing the $600 Sony a6000 to the $1,800 Canon EOS7Dmii.

We used 70-200mm lenses for both, completely extended to 200mm.

 

[robert614]

Don't you have something better to do than troll.

I guess your trying to show how great the a6000 is(I'm sure it's a excellent camera),but your video also shows your inexperience using the 7d2.

Why are you shooting case 4?Case 1 should be more than adequate.

Also when your using all 65 points on the 7d2,the center point is used to acquire focus at the start of the burst.Only problem is the center point wasn't on the skier when you started the burst.

Also you half pressed the shutter on the a6000 prior to the burst,allowing the camera to lock on and start tracking.Yet you didn't do the same with the 7d2.

Also you state tracking was enabled on the a6000,but you make no mention of iTR on the 7d2.So I assume it was off.How much of a difference that makes I'm not sure.But you should put the cameras on equal footing.

Finally,I doubt I would use all 65 AF points with that subject matter.I would most certainly use single point or single point with expansion.

I'm not sure why you're so intent on discrediting the 7d2,but it makes me sad.

Many people I know enjoy your products,most of whom shoot Canon.As someone in the photography business,why are you going out of you're way to post trollish threads in a camera forum?

Robert

 

[Karl Gnter Wnsch]

Also when your using all 65 points on the 7d2,the center point is used to acquire focus at the start of the burst.

Sorry to correct you but you can freely select the focusing point with which to start the tracking when using the all focusing points mode...

I'm not sure why you're so intent on discrediting the 7d2,but it makes me sad.

He's a Sony shill... Paid or not (he's wealthy) he is... Just watch his recommendation video for Nikon or Canon people to switch to his beloved Sony cameras - but have a paper bag on standby, in case your previous meal makes an unduly reappearance...

 

[robert614]

Also when your using all 65 points on the 7d2,the center point is used to acquire focus at the start of the burst.

Sorry to correct you but you can freely select the focusing point with which to start the tracking when using the all focusing points mode...

I'm not sure why you're so intent on discrediting the 7d2,but it makes me sad.

He's a Sony shill... Paid or not (he's wealthy) he is... Just watch his recommendation video for Nikon or Canon people to switch to his beloved Sony cameras - but have a paper bag on standby, in case your previous meal makes an unduly reappearance...

 

[Karl Gnter Wnsch]

Thanks for the correction Karl.You are absolutely correct.But it appears Gary didn't move it.

I decided not to watch his moronic effort to promote the Sony. Every click earns him money...

You can clearly see the center point highlight when he starts his burst.

Then he is an even bigger smeg head than I though he was... So no more Gary Fong flash equipment, there must be less pricey alternatives (i.e. cheap Chinese knock offs), don't want to make that rich sod any richer when I recommend stuff like that to others...

 

[MarshallG]

Mr. Fong,

When you got the Canon 7Dii, you claimed that it could not shoot 10 fps. We explained to you exactly how to make it shoot 10fps, and you ignored those directions and continued to claim that the camera could not shoot 10fps, even after people posted proof that it can. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but enough is enough. So I took a look at your website.

What I can find on the Garyfong.com home page?

• "Unleashing the Power of your Sony A7"
• "Unleashing the Power of your Sony A6000"
• "Unleashing the Power of your Sony A77"
• "Configure your Sony Mirrorless Camera for Autofocus Object Tracking"

Let me quote what you said in that last video, about Autofocus Object Tracking: "This is a completely different set-up, where you have to have all the different parameters set properly, or else they will overlap or they will cancel each other." And yet, Mr. Fong, when experienced Canon shooters told you what those parameters were for the Canon, you ignored them and continued to claim that the camera did not work properly.

So if you can't even follow your very own advice, why should anybody else?

And, one more thing... those shots of skiers coming downhill weren't very good. Is that the best you can do?

 

[Karl Gnter Wnsch]

And, one more thing... those shots of skiers coming downhill weren't very good. Is that the best you can do?

Yes, that's probably the best he can - given the fact that he wants to promote his Sony toy with which he squeezed all he could out of...

 

[birdbrain]

I've heard of his 'light spheres' or some such piece of plastic you can stick on a flash which costs a fortune imo.

Other than that he seems to use Sony equipment and from his posts it would appear they also must pay him.

So why would I be bothered by what he says?

How about this, no one answer his next posts at all :-D

Right I'm off shooting with my 7D2

 

[Matt105483]

In this video, Gary Fong and Kyle Perison shoot skiiers side by side with lenses at a focal length of 200mm to see how the autofocus performance and drive speed are comparing the $600 Sony a6000 to the $1,800 Canon EOS7Dmii.

We used 70-200mm lenses for both, completely extended to 200mm.

 

[MAC]

Don't you have something better to do than troll.

I guess your trying to show how great the a6000 is(I'm sure it's a excellent camera),but your video also shows your inexperience using the 7d2.

Why are you shooting case 4?Case 1 should be more than adequate.

Also when your using all 65 points on the 7d2,the center point is used to acquire focus at the start of the burst.Only problem is the center point wasn't on the skier when you started the burst.

Also you half pressed the shutter on the a6000 prior to the burst,allowing the camera to lock on and start tracking.Yet you didn't do the same with the 7d2.

Also you state tracking was enabled on the a6000,but you make no mention of iTR on the 7d2.So I assume it was off.How much of a difference that makes I'm not sure.But you should put the cameras on equal footing.

Finally,I doubt I would use all 65 AF points with that subject matter.I would most certainly use single point or single point with expansion.

I'm not sure why you're so intent on discrediting the 7d2,but it makes me sad.

Many people I know enjoy your products,most of whom shoot Canon.As someone in the photography business,why are you going out of you're way to post trollish threads in a camera forum?

Robert

agree, his settings are wrong

before - to prove lower fps he was living in live view with no lens on the camera - because that is how he uses the sony's he promotes - news for him - pro action shooting lives in ovf with lens on camera

look how bad the sony IQ is - purple scene and bad clarity and IQ

these videos of his are from a bad reviewer - hilarious to see, as he digs himself deeper and deeper into the no credibility return

incredibly bad behavior - negative return

 

[Matt105483]

Don't you have something better to do than troll.

I guess your trying to show how great the a6000 is(I'm sure it's a excellent camera),but your video also shows your inexperience using the 7d2.

Why are you shooting case 4?Case 1 should be more than adequate.

Also when your using all 65 points on the 7d2,the center point is used to acquire focus at the start of the burst.Only problem is the center point wasn't on the skier when you started the burst.

Also you half pressed the shutter on the a6000 prior to the burst,allowing the camera to lock on and start tracking.Yet you didn't do the same with the 7d2.

Also you state tracking was enabled on the a6000,but you make no mention of iTR on the 7d2.So I assume it was off.How much of a difference that makes I'm not sure.But you should put the cameras on equal footing.

Finally,I doubt I would use all 65 AF points with that subject matter.I would most certainly use single point or single point with expansion.

I'm not sure why you're so intent on discrediting the 7d2,but it makes me sad.

Many people I know enjoy your products,most of whom shoot Canon.As someone in the photography business,why are you going out of you're way to post trollish threads in a camera forum?

Robert

agree, his settings are wrong

before - to prove lower fps he was living in live view with no lens on the camera - because that is how he uses the sony's he promotes - news for him - pro action shooting lives in ovf with lens on camera

look how bad the sony IQ is - purple scene and bad clarity and IQ

these videos of his are from a bad reviewer - hilarious to see, as he digs himself deeper and deeper into the no credibility return

incredibly bad behavior - negative return

actually his fanboys love his scientific findings...

 

[garyknrd]

I just read another review of AF issues.

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www.birdphotographers.net

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Presently living in Asia

 

[Karl Gnter Wnsch]

I just read another review of AF issues.

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www.birdphotographers.net

Which contains a lot of false information - for example the AF module in the 7DII and 5DIII isn't the same, far from it to be precise.

You will always find some which have certain expectations that aren't met. Give them a 1Dx and they will find fault because even that will miss every now and then. Most of the time the culprit is a few centimeters behind the viewfinder.

 

[elfroggio]

Don't you have something better to do than troll.

I disagree on the troll comment.

1. Gary was/is civil. He's entitled to his experiments and his comments. You can refute them and try to prove him wrong. As long as it is civil...
2. I'm learning new things about the 7DMk2 (which I own)

 

[Karl Gnter Wnsch]

1. I'm learning new things about the 7DMk2 (which I own)

Like what? That if you are incapable of photographing sports then the 7DII won't instantly make you the photographer of the next sports illustrated cover story?

 

[elfroggio]

I've heard of his 'light spheres' or some such piece of plastic you can stick on a flash which costs a fortune imo.

They are expensive, yes. I have tried the slightly cloudy plastic container. Big difference, between 2 and 3 stops. His lightspheres are very good in very specific conditions.

 

[elfroggio]

1. I'm learning new things about the 7DMk2 (which I own)

Like what? That if you are incapable of photographing sports then the 7DII won't instantly make you the photographer of the next sports illustrated cover story?

like:

Sorry to correct you but you can freely select the focusing point with which to start the tracking when using the all focusing points mode...

1. I'm happy with mine, but I occasional get OOFs.
2. I like to understand the technical, it helps me understand why I don't always get it.

I think that it was Doisneau that said:

If I knew how to take a good photograph, I’d do it every time.

 

[Karl Gnter Wnsch]

Sorry to correct you but you can freely select the focusing point with which to start the tracking when using the all focusing points mode...

Well I really thought everybody knew that one... It's true for the original 7D as well.

1. I'm happy with mine, but I occasional get OOFs.

That IMHO would be normal...

1. I like to understand the technical, it helps me understand why I don't always get it.

True...

I think that it was Doisneau that said:

If I knew how to take a good photograph, I’d do it every time.

Whatever he did, he did many things correctly. I have been seeing one of his retrospectives at Malbrouck a few years back and some of his series were amazing. I like his cheeky series of people in front of the small gallery window where a painting of a naked lady was shown...

 

[Manfred Bachmann]

I have Nikons, but i know the 7D II and i know the A6000, all what i can say, the a6000 sucks compared to the canon if you know how to work with it! But of course, you will sell Sony, thats the problem

 

[JackM]

Don't you have something better to do than troll.

I guess your trying to show how great the a6000 is(I'm sure it's a excellent camera),but your video also shows your inexperience using the 7d2.

Why are you shooting case 4?Case 1 should be more than adequate.

Also when your using all 65 points on the 7d2,the center point is used to acquire focus at the start of the burst.Only problem is the center point wasn't on the skier when you started the burst.

Also you half pressed the shutter on the a6000 prior to the burst,allowing the camera to lock on and start tracking.Yet you didn't do the same with the 7d2.

Also you state tracking was enabled on the a6000,but you make no mention of iTR on the 7d2.So I assume it was off.How much of a difference that makes I'm not sure.But you should put the cameras on equal footing.

Finally,I doubt I would use all 65 AF points with that subject matter.I would most certainly use single point or single point with expansion.

I'm not sure why you're so intent on discrediting the 7d2,but it makes me sad.

Many people I know enjoy your products,most of whom shoot Canon.As someone in the photography business,why are you going out of you're way to post trollish threads in a camera forum?

Robert

Sigh. More user error by GF. All the points above are correct, but the bold text is a huge red flag. Of course the camera didn't grab the skier right away.

As far as I know GF still hasn't admitted he was wrong about the 10fps thing, and how someone instantly discredited him with this quick and easy test. By the way I repeated that test myself with my 7D2, only at ISO 1600, f/4, 1/250, Servo AF, and got the same exact results - 10fps!!

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