Anyone with A7 images and the Samyang 14mm f2.8 FF E-mount lens?

[Mel Snyder]

I know from Viktor's excellent blog review that it has some mustache distortion, but I'd like to see how it performs in non-city landscape views.

Asking for images is a very persuasive practice here - I bought a 16mm+UWA just before my September trip, thanks to great samples uploaded here.

 

[verybiglebowski]

I know from Viktor's excellent blog review that it has some mustache distortion, but I'd like to see how it performs in non-city landscape views.

Asking for images is a very persuasive practice here - I bought a 16mm+UWA just before my September trip, thanks to great samples uploaded here.

Hi Mel, Do you mean Samyang 14/2.8 or Canon FD/EF 14/2.8? What scenery would you like to see and at which settings?

 

[Mel Snyder]

I know from Viktor's excellent blog review that it has some mustache distortion, but I'd like to see how it performs in non-city landscape views.

Asking for images is a very persuasive practice here - I bought a 16mm+UWA just before my September trip, thanks to great samples uploaded here.

Hi Mel, Do you mean Samyang 14/2.8 or Canon FD/EF 14/2.8? What scenery would you like to see and at which settings?

 

[verybiglebowski]

I know from Viktor's excellent blog review that it has some mustache distortion, but I'd like to see how it performs in non-city landscape views.

Asking for images is a very persuasive practice here - I bought a 16mm+UWA just before my September trip, thanks to great samples uploaded here.

Hi Mel, Do you mean Samyang 14/2.8 or Canon FD/EF 14/2.8? What scenery would you like to see and at which settings?

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Yes, the Samyang - I saw your fine "steps" images. We have a lot of guys who shoot in country settings with sunshine I'd like to see.

I am sorry, I can't help you much, but if you are worried about distortion in that kind of shots, you certainly shouldn't.

One of the few occasions where you might find it problematic is architecture. Of course, you shouldn't shot people close-ups with it either, but that is same as with any other UWA, unless you want funny face.

Here is one shot on NEX 7 that might get close to what you want.

(Don't look at the right corners, they are out of DOF - virtually - next to camera). Distortion in this case helped image dynamics. but in the middle it is rather negligible.

However in the following shot it is annoying (at least to me), but because it is test shot I left it there.

But again, even for the cityscape, with slight correction it shouldn't be a problem, if the subject plane is further from camera

In short, don't worry about distortion. My biggest problem with all those 14mm options is their front bulbous element, that makes filter use very complicated and expensive.

It is big lens, but not too heavy, and I have seen here recently few, selling for some 230 USD or so, which is tremendous value. This lens is optically in a different league than SEL 1628, which I know you was happy with. But in terms of size and convenience, it is different league too unfortunately :-(

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http://verybiglobo.blogspot.com/

 

[ryansholl]

Well, it's not one of the rangefinder wide angles that has problems with color in corners. It's going to perform essentially the same as it would have on the a900 or a850. I'd suggest just looking up photos with these equal-megapixel machines. You're probably gonna get the same photo.

I own an a850 and the Samyang (Bower) 14mm. It does have very noticeable moustache distortion, which is very bothersome when photographing architecture. It is basically unnoticed void of straight, right lines.

I've got a photo I took while waiting for the airport to open up one morning, it shows the distortion perfectly... I'll see if I can't find and post that.

 

[DtEW]

Can't give you a sample with the A7 specifically, but my experience with the BowRokYang 14mm f/2.8 on FF for architectural purposes has been very positive after correction with LR profiles.

https://flic.kr/p/iv4vvc

https://flic.kr/p/i5VPof

I don't upload 1:1 online, but on a pixel-peeped level it puts the SEL1018 to shame, and the Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8 as well. It's supposed to be just a hair better than the Nikon 14-24mm f/2.8, but I have not witnessed this myself.

 

[jandu]

Have a look, it is on the A7R. The fence below will give you an idea of the distortion.




Samyang 14mm F2.8 a-mount on A7R

 

[ryansholl]

Very good idea of the distortion

https://flic.kr/p/jXUm5W

 

[Mel Snyder]

I know from Viktor's excellent blog review that it has some mustache distortion, but I'd like to see how it performs in non-city landscape views.

Asking for images is a very persuasive practice here - I bought a 16mm+UWA just before my September trip, thanks to great samples uploaded here.

Hi Mel, Do you mean Samyang 14/2.8 or Canon FD/EF 14/2.8? What scenery would you like to see and at which settings?

--
Don't trust your eyes or mind, they might betray you! Trust only comments posted on the forums, because there is the absolute truth!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/viktor_viktor/
http://verybiglobo.blogspot.com/

Yes, the Samyang - I saw your fine "steps" images. We have a lot of guys who shoot in country settings with sunshine I'd like to see.

I am sorry, I can't help you much, but if you are worried about distortion in that kind of shots, you certainly shouldn't.

One of the few occasions where you might find it problematic is architecture. Of course, you shouldn't shot people close-ups with it either, but that is same as with any other UWA, unless you want funny face.

Here is one shot on NEX 7 that might get close to what you want.

(Don't look at the right corners, they are out of DOF - virtually - next to camera). Distortion in this case helped image dynamics. but in the middle it is rather negligible.

However in the following shot it is annoying (at least to me), but because it is test shot I left it there.

But again, even for the cityscape, with slight correction it shouldn't be a problem, if the subject plane is further from camera

In short, don't worry about distortion. My biggest problem with all those 14mm options is their front bulbous element, that makes filter use very complicated and expensive.

It is big lens, but not too heavy, and I have seen here recently few, selling for some 230 USD or so, which is tremendous value. This lens is optically in a different league than SEL 1628, which I know you was happy with. But in terms of size and convenience, it is different league too unfortunately :-(

--
Don't trust your eyes or mind, they might betray you! Trust only comments posted on the forums, because there is the absolute truth!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/viktor_viktor/
http://verybiglobo.blogspot.com/

As you said, it's in a different league than the SEL16F28 and UWA. I'm going to take that to the bank - along with your observation that it's not as heavy as it looks.

Assuming the leaks about the A6000 are correct, I'm going to likely order the A7 and kit lens on Friday, and learn the camera with that kit and my 3 old (1981-82) Leica M mount lenses. In about a month I'll likely order the 14mm. If - as I hope - Sony releases an APS-C in an A7 body, I'll pass along my NEX-6 to my Nikon-packing daughter, who was blown away by the EVF the first time she looked through it. Then, one D7000 and a few zooms to my son-in-law, and the rest of my Nikon gear to Craig's List or ebay - and my decade with Nikon comes to an end.

Rolling all the dice with Sony is a bit scary - a whole lot scarier than when I dumped Windows for Mac in 2011, after 21 years with that OS. But i just don't see much equivalent gear from Nikon, and it the A7 works well enough with my M mounts (35mm f1.4 Summilux, 50mm f2 Summicron and 90mm f2.8 Tele-Elmarit), the optical risk of the commitment will be low.

 

[wb2trf]

It is auto-correctable with the usual software or does it require manual manipulation?

 

[SQLGuy]

It is auto-correctable with the usual software or does it require manual manipulation?

That depends mostly on which is the "usual software." Pretty much anything is auto-correctable if you have a profile. Lightroom at least allows you to create your own profiles. If you're using DXO Optics Pro, it may be a looooong wait. Actually DXO has two problems: 1) No user-created profiles and 2) You can't use a profile with anything other than the specific camera model for which they created it. LR allows you to use lens profiles independent of bodies, so, as soon as someone has a profile for the Samyang on FF, it'll be useable for the A7/A7R.

 

[Jagdon]

I like the lens. These are the best of my first

pics taken with the lens on my recent trip to Tasmania.

 

[Mel Snyder]

Nice - and precisely the kind of images I was seeking? What PP software (if an) did you use?

I like the lens. These are the best of my first

pics taken with the lens on my recent trip to Tasmania.

 

[Jagdon]

Mel, I used Lightroom for some small adjustments. The top photo taken at night in Hobart was straightened up at the edges with a manual control. Just used the vertical guides and tilted image till they lined up with the sides of the building. For the cost of the lens, you cannot go wrong.

I went through my photos I emailed friends and found this one taken by the Samyang 14mm. It is a bit of HDR and the ship in the sunrise is actually the Aurora Australis which was coincidentally returning from its rescue mission we saw on the news recently. I only found out when I saw the news in my hotel and zoomed into the ship to check

Also chucked a few more in.

 

[Tubbycub]

Mel, I used Lightroom for some small adjustments. The top photo taken at night in Hobart was straightened up at the edges with a manual control. Just used the vertical guides and tilted image till they lined up with the sides of the building. For the cost of the lens, you cannot go wrong.

I went through my photos I emailed friends and found this one taken by the Samyang 14mm. It is a bit of HDR and the ship in the sunrise is actually the Aurora Australis which was coincidentally returning from its rescue mission we saw on the news recently. I only found out when I saw the news in my hotel and zoomed into the ship to check

Also chucked a few more in.

Great pics!

Where did you buy your copy from?

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RX1, A7 Zeiss 55 Zeiss 35

 

[ktc9]

Any comparison of its size (in practice use) and image quality w/ the SEL10-18E4?

 

[Lenshound]

I have the a7r and the rokinon (samyang) 14mm are not 36mpix sharp but sharp enough as Im not intending to crop anyway when using ultra wide.

However at lower apertures f<8 the corners are very soft.

f 5.6

36mpix 100% crop center and semi-corner



I have made a short review of the lens at my blog http://lenshound.iblogger.org/?p=92