Z7ii looses set shutter delay when going to sleep or waking

[astirusty]

Did not find this mentioned in Official Nikon Z7ii manual or 3rd-party Z7ii guide.

Had not run into this sleep and shutter delay problem before.

When Nikon Z7ii goes into sleep mode (or waking from being in sleep mode); the previously set and working shutter delay timer would change back to standard shutter release mode.

Requiring shutter delay timer to be selected and reset, every time Z7iii is awakened from sleeping (power saving).

Normal behavior? And I missed documentation in official manual and 3rd-party guide?

For now, to get around problem, raised time to sleep seconds to minutes.

 

[skyrunr]

Have tried using a User mode to counter the issue? I'm pretty sure they can remember the setting. I just checked the usual suspects of excluded items.

 

[Bogie 1]

If I remember correctly, what you are saying is normal behavior. I think that Rick Mike Perea mentioned this problem and a workaround, but I don't remember the details. He has a youtube channel on landscape photography which is very good.

 

[PLShutterbug]

Did not find this mentioned in Official Nikon Z7ii manual or 3rd-party Z7ii guide.

Had not run into this sleep and shutter delay problem before.

When Nikon Z7ii goes into sleep mode (or waking from being in sleep mode); the previously set and working shutter delay timer would change back to standard shutter release mode.

Requiring shutter delay timer to be selected and reset, every time Z7iii is awakened from sleeping (power saving).

Normal behavior? And I missed documentation in official manual and 3rd-party guide?

For now, to get around problem, raised time to sleep seconds to minutes.

What is "shutter delay timer?" I don't find that term in the Z7 manual.

Do you mean "exposure delay mode?" Where you can delay the shutter firing for from 0.3 seconds to 3 seconds to eliminate shock from pressing the button? That persists even if the camera battery is removed. I just tried it (accidentally): I set my Z7 to that mode, shot a photo, and set the camera down for 10 minutes so it would go to sleep. When I came back the camera told me I had to replace the battery - the one in there was dead. I did, shot a photo, and the delay mode remained.

 

[CNorre]

Did not find this mentioned in Official Nikon Z7ii manual or 3rd-party Z7ii guide.

Had not run into this sleep and shutter delay problem before.

When Nikon Z7ii goes into sleep mode (or waking from being in sleep mode); the previously set and working shutter delay timer would change back to standard shutter release mode.

Requiring shutter delay timer to be selected and reset, every time Z7iii is awakened from sleeping (power saving).

Normal behavior? And I missed documentation in official manual and 3rd-party guide?

For now, to get around problem, raised time to sleep seconds to minutes.

This is "normal" behaviour on my Z6II at least (quite annoying when doing tripod work tbh).

Haven't found a work around but extending sleep timer as you already have too.

Might have to try the user mode setting suggestion.

 

[jthomas39]

Did you set exposure delay mode? That's what you want. On my old Z6, the Self Timer reverts to single shot after power off or sleep, but the Delay stays in effect until I turn it off. I'll be very surprised if the Z7 ii works differently.

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There's two different delay modes:

c2 Self timer --this just sets the delay, number of shots to take, and interval between them -- for getting the photographer into the photo. NOTE: this menu selection doesn't activate the self timer! that's done from the Release Mode button on the back: Self timer, single shot, continuous shot selections.

The Self Timer will turn on the green focus light. It flashes as the timing counts down, to let you get into the picture. Kind of annoying if I'm just wanting a shutter delay to quiet down the camera shake.

self timer number of shots = 1. setting it to more than 1 is for getting the photographer into the shot, and hoping to get good expressions on all the subjects!

d4 exposure delay mode -- this stays on even if the camera is powered off, until you turn it off in the menu. No focus light. This is the best mode for a tripod session, since it stays in effect, and can be set to fractions of a second too. Unfortunately, it just doesn't work very well with a bracketing set--it only takes one shot of the set.

These two selections often get confused. But it makes sense why there are two different methods.

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Checking my Z6 iii: it keeps the Self Timer mode even after a power off. (The Z6 reset Self Timer to Single Shot after power off.)

Ha, don't use both Self Timer and exposure delay mode at the same time. It's very confusing -- a green blinking countdown, then another delay!

 

[monte12345]

Because the self timer resets after Sleep. The Exposure delay is a "Sticky" setting to that will remain in place after Sleep or turning the camera off. BTW, learned that with real world experience. I had forgotten to turn the setting off after doing some landscape shooting and when I went to take some shots the next day and missed a couple of shots due to that delay being active.

 

[astirusty]

Have tried using a User mode to counter the issue? I'm pretty sure they can remember the setting. I just checked the usual suspects of excluded items.

Honestly have not.

Being sole purpose of sleep is to save battery. I would expect what ever settings you had activate at time camera went to sleep, would still be activate when camera is woke up.

 

[skyrunr]

While I agree, and it might be worth a note to Nikon support, the usermode option might be a good enough workaround for now. As a former Z7II owner, don't get me started on waiting for firmware. (cough 2.x)

Another option could be to use backup/restore settings to turn it on and off, which might be better than the "i" menu (or other menus) and fiddling with command dials. I used backup/restore (before every shoot) for my D500 due to how the banks worked.

 

[PLShutterbug]

Did not find this mentioned in Official Nikon Z7ii manual or 3rd-party Z7ii guide.

Had not run into this sleep and shutter delay problem before.

OK, from later posts you are talking about the self-timer.

On all electronically-controlled Nikon cameras I have ever used, the self-timer is cancelled if the camera goes to sleep or is shut off. It’s just the way it is.

If you want a delay mode that doesn’t reset on restart, use Exposure Delay Mode.

 

[jthomas39]

Have tried using a User mode to counter the issue? I'm pretty sure they can remember the setting. I just checked the usual suspects of excluded items.

Honestly have not.

Being sole purpose of sleep is to save battery. I would expect what ever settings you had activate at time camera went to sleep, would still be activate when camera is woke up.

Yes, I would use a 20 or 30 second sleep timer with my Z6, mainly to keep the lens focus distance. Powering off would reset it to infinity. I assumed every other current setting would stay in effect after waking from sleep. But I just tested the Self Timer, and it resets to single shot after sleep, just like it did at power off.

It's interesting that the Z6 iii keeps the Self Timer in effect after sleep or after power off. Did that start with the Z9, I guess?

 

[skyrunr]

It makes much less sense than that... The Z50, Z30, Z6III, and Z50II all save the release (called DRIVE in most cameras,) to user modes. I've always used a 1 minute sleep setting on everything but image review. I'm not sure how the bank based cameras handle it, but I sure miss that sub-dial on the DSLR's!

It would be nice if Nikon refreshed the II's with many of the non hardware firmware improvements. As a former Z7II owner, I wouldn't wait for them though. Lesson learned.