X-E5 a bluetooth button on bottom plate on a not WR camera

[al404]

I'm thinking about getting a 40mpx sensor Fuji

I did have a lot of expectation for the X-E5 but price did hold me back

after that I discovered that the screen did not tilt in vertical and that it has the free flat cable

I was kind of thinking if I could go over that but yesterday watching some other video I discover that the camera has a bluetooth button on bottom plate and on a camera that does not has WR this becomes my main concern

It is not unlikely to place the camera on a wet surface

Perhaps it could be solved with duct tape, but that would create thickness on the side

This fact is omitted in almost all reviews

 

[Greybeard2023]

I'm thinking about getting a 40mpx sensor Fuji

I did have a lot of expectation for the X-E5 but price did hold me back

after that I discovered that the screen did not tilt in vertical and that it has the free flat cable

I was kind of thinking if I could go over that but yesterday watching some other video I discover that the camera has a bluetooth button on bottom plate and on a camera that does not has WR this becomes my main concern

It is not unlikely to place the camera on a wet surface

Perhaps it could be solved with duct tape, but that would create thickness on the side

This fact is omitted in almost all reviews

I'm not sure just placing the camera on a wet surface is going to be a problem although I keep a leather half case permanently attached which covers the button and the speaker next to it.

 

[John Bean (UK)]

I'm thinking about getting a 40mpx sensor Fuji

I did have a lot of expectation for the X-E5 but price did hold me back

after that I discovered that the screen did not tilt in vertical and that it has the free flat cable

I was kind of thinking if I could go over that but yesterday watching some other video I discover that the camera has a bluetooth button on bottom plate and on a camera that does not has WR this becomes my main concern

It is not unlikely to place the camera on a wet surface

Perhaps it could be solved with duct tape, but that would create thickness on the side

This fact is omitted in almost all reviews

I'm not sure just placing the camera on a wet surface is going to be a problem although I keep a leather half case permanently attached which covers the button and the speaker next to it.

Agree. Given the speaker holes and gap around the battery door the button is a negligible extra risk, although admittedly a bit pointless anyway. It would need partial submersion to even wet the button and by then much more water would already be in the camera.

Assuming cleanish fresh water (rainwater, say) permanent damage is unlikely anyway; I only once got a non-sealed camera very wet by partial immersion in a "waterproof" Crumpler bag that leaked somewhere but retained the water in the bottom - about an inch of it. Inside I had a Ricoh GR (original version) and a Sigma DP2, and both were in the water for several hours. Neither suffered any long-term effects after a few days of drying out and nether make any claims about seals of any sort.

That was the last time I believed a Crumpler claim; I switched to a similar-sized Billingham that really is weatherproof.

PS: in well over half a century of using cameras I have never put down any camera on a wet surface anyway, so...

 

[HeavyDuty]

I am always looking at ways of mitigating soggy bottom. I tape speaker holes and use either a baseplate, grip or half case. I also generally tape microphones to keep dust out, I don’t shoot video using the internal mics.

When my X-E5 gets here I’ll probably be taping the BT button, too. I get good results with round pieces of electrical tape cut using a hole punch.

 

[al404]

FOR ME if I have to add an half case I would just go for and X-T5 since I will lose the compact size of this camera that is the only PRO over X-T5

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

Don't put it on a wet surface.

 

[michaeladawson]

I'm thinking about getting a 40mpx sensor Fuji

I did have a lot of expectation for the X-E5 but price did hold me back

after that I discovered that the screen did not tilt in vertical and that it has the free flat cable

I was kind of thinking if I could go over that but yesterday watching some other video I discover that the camera has a bluetooth button on bottom plate and on a camera that does not has WR this becomes my main concern

It is not unlikely to place the camera on a wet surface

Perhaps it could be solved with duct tape, but that would create thickness on the side

This fact is omitted in almost all reviews

I’m not sure why you’re worried about the Bluetooth button. The battery and SD card door is on the bottom as well.

Theres a huge difference between a “wet surface” and “a puddle”. I don’t put my camera down in either if I can avoid it. But unless you’re putting your camera down in a puddle I don’t see a concern.

 

[HeavyDuty]

I’m personally more worried about stopping dust intrusion, but I’ve seen more than a few cameras soaked by beverage spills on a table or countertop.

 

[RobRoy22]

I'm thinking about getting a 40mpx sensor Fuji

I did have a lot of expectation for the X-E5 but price did hold me back

after that I discovered that the screen did not tilt in vertical and that it has the free flat cable

I was kind of thinking if I could go over that but yesterday watching some other video I discover that the camera has a bluetooth button on bottom plate and on a camera that does not has WR this becomes my main concern

It is not unlikely to place the camera on a wet surface

Perhaps it could be solved with duct tape, but that would create thickness on the side

This fact is omitted in almost all reviews

I'm not sure just placing the camera on a wet surface is going to be a problem although I keep a leather half case permanently attached which covers the button and the speaker next to it.

Agree. Given the speaker holes and gap around the battery door the button is a negligible extra risk, although admittedly a bit pointless anyway. It would need partial submersion to even wet the button and by then much more water would already be in the camera.

Assuming cleanish fresh water (rainwater, say) permanent damage is unlikely anyway; I only once got a non-sealed camera very wet by partial immersion in a "waterproof" Crumpler bag that leaked somewhere but retained the water in the bottom - about an inch of it. Inside I had a Ricoh GR (original version) and a Sigma DP2, and both were in the water for several hours. Neither suffered any long-term effects after a few days of drying out and nether make any claims about seals of any sort.

That was the last time I believed a Crumpler claim; I switched to a similar-sized Billingham that really is weatherproof.

PS: in well over half a century of using cameras I have never put down any camera on a wet surface anyway, so...

Your last comment echoes my thoughts

 

[Jeff Biscuits]

It is not unlikely to place the camera on a wet surface

This seems like a solvable problem

 

[LogJamExcalibur]

I never put my camera on any surface, wet or dry. either it is on a strap, in my hands, on a capture clip or tripod, or in my bag. How hard could it be to avoid putting one’s camera on a “wet surface”?

 

[al404]

I don't put my camera intentionally on a wet surface but it did happen to stop to a BAR outside after the rain or with wet spot on the table and set the phone or the camera in that spot

 

[michaeladawson]

I don't put my camera intentionally on a wet surface but it did happen to stop to a BAR outside after the rain or with wet spot on the table and set the phone or the camera in that spot

I just don't think it's a big issue. I'm not saying the issue doesn't exist. But in my opinion, it's just not a reason to waffle over whether to buy the camera or not. I'm far more likely to drop the camera than set it down on a big wet spot.

My puzzlement is over why they needed a dedicated Bluetooth button in the first place. I set up my Nikon cameras with their smartphone app and I have never had to go into the camera menus again.

 

[John Bean (UK)]

I don't put my camera intentionally on a wet surface but it did happen to stop to a BAR outside after the rain or with wet spot on the table and set the phone or the camera in that spot

I just don't think it's a big issue. I'm not saying the issue doesn't exist. But in my opinion, it's just not a reason to waffle over whether to buy the camera or not. I'm far more likely to drop the camera than set it down on a big wet spot.

My puzzlement is over why they needed a dedicated Bluetooth button in the first place. I set up my Nikon cameras with their smartphone app and I have never had to go into the camera menus again.

Especially as a long press of the "DISP/BACK" button brings up the dials/buttons menu with BT right at the top; click OK and you're there. I can't for the life of me imagine any situation where I'd ever need a dedicated BT button just to save one extra button press - and the senseless placement of the BT button makes it slower and more awkward to access yet still needing a long press just like the BACK button does. Pointless.

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

I don't put my camera intentionally on a wet surface but it did happen to stop to a BAR outside after the rain or with wet spot on the table and set the phone or the camera in that spot

I just don't think it's a big issue. I'm not saying the issue doesn't exist. But in my opinion, it's just not a reason to waffle over whether to buy the camera or not. I'm far more likely to drop the camera than set it down on a big wet spot.

My puzzlement is over why they needed a dedicated Bluetooth button in the first place. I set up my Nikon cameras with their smartphone app and I have never had to go into the camera menus again.

Especially as a long press of the "DISP/BACK" button brings up the dials/buttons menu with BT right at the top; click OK and you're there. I can't for the life of me imagine any situation where I'd ever need a dedicated BT button just to save one extra button press - and the senseless placement of the BT button makes it slower and more awkward to access yet still needing a long press just like the BACK button does. Pointless.

I am totally fine with a combined button because once paired I literally never use that menu, but the separate button does eliminate two actions, long-press and then right arrow, and also reduces one action to get to the first Fn button.

It's possible that short-pressing the button toggles BT while long-pressing brings up the menu. For some people being able to easily turn off BT until they need it to use the app can improve battery life. I can do this on my other Fuji's but that uses up one of the Fn buttons.

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www.darngoodphotos.com

 

[michaeladawson]

I am totally fine with a combined button because once paired I literally never use that menu, but the separate button does eliminate two actions, long-press and then right arrow, and also reduces one action to get to the first Fn button.

It's possible that short-pressing the button toggles BT while long-pressing brings up the menu. For some people being able to easily turn off BT until they need it to use the app can improve battery life. I can do this on my other Fuji's but that uses up one of the Fn buttons.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you said. But I still wonder what the need for a dedicated button is. Is BT really that likely to be used more than some of the other functions that aren't on buttons? I don't dispute that there may be some people that my want frequent access to the BT button. But then there's always remapping of buttons.

 

[HeavyDuty]

I am totally fine with a combined button because once paired I literally never use that menu, but the separate button does eliminate two actions, long-press and then right arrow, and also reduces one action to get to the first Fn button.

It's possible that short-pressing the button toggles BT while long-pressing brings up the menu. For some people being able to easily turn off BT until they need it to use the app can improve battery life. I can do this on my other Fuji's but that uses up one of the Fn buttons.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you said. But I still wonder what the need for a dedicated button is. Is BT really that likely to be used more than some of the other functions that aren't on buttons? I don't dispute that there may be some people that my want frequent access to the BT button. But then there's always remapping of buttons.

The manual implies the button is only used for BT pairing and cannot be remapped.

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

I am totally fine with a combined button because once paired I literally never use that menu, but the separate button does eliminate two actions, long-press and then right arrow, and also reduces one action to get to the first Fn button.

It's possible that short-pressing the button toggles BT while long-pressing brings up the menu. For some people being able to easily turn off BT until they need it to use the app can improve battery life. I can do this on my other Fuji's but that uses up one of the Fn buttons.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you said. But I still wonder what the need for a dedicated button is. Is BT really that likely to be used more than some of the other functions that aren't on buttons? I don't dispute that there may be some people that my want frequent access to the BT button. But then there's always remapping of buttons.

The manual implies the button is only used for BT pairing and cannot be remapped.

I checked the manual and you can still get the BT menu through the Disp button which makes it even more redundant.

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www.darngoodphotos.com

 

[michaeladawson]

The manual implies the button is only used for BT pairing and cannot be remapped.

I'm not suggesting you remap the BT button. I was suggesting that there is no need for a dedicated BT button. For those few that require frequent access to it Fujifilm should have just made the BT function mappable to one of the other buttons or levers.

But everyone has their own opinions of "the best camera". I love my X-E5 pearls, warts, and all.

 

[HeavyDuty]

The manual implies the button is only used for BT pairing and cannot be remapped.

I'm not suggesting you remap the BT button. I was suggesting that there is no need for a dedicated BT button. For those few that require frequent access to it Fujifilm should have just made the BT function mappable to one of the other buttons or levers.

But everyone has their own opinions of "the best camera". I love my X-E5 pearls, warts, and all.

You had mentioned remapping in general, and I was curious. It would have been nice if it could have been assigned to whatever the user actually needed - for example, it might be a good one for selecting adapted lenses.