Wireless Tip of the Day... MAC filtering (improves signal strength?)

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TL;DR, implementing MAC filtering can improve network latency and improve WiFi client reliability at longer ranges if you have a powerful router everyone in your neighborhood can reach...

Short story time... Once upon a time, I noted that when I was browsing the internet from my iPhone SE from the farthest room in my house from my router, that it only got 2 bars of WiFi (out of 3) from my 5GHz band and would constantly be switching to 5G cell (not to be confused with 5GHz WiFi) instead of using my router's WiFi. Now this in itself isn't so bad if you have good 5G (or LTE) cell reception and unlimited data with your cell provider (I do), however, having recently setup an PiHole and Unbound setup to reduce my ad exposure and improve my network privacy, I was a little disappointed to not be able to use it (requires you use your WiFi, not your cell provider's internet, or create. "tunnel" back to the PiHole, which is a pain and a security risk), especially on a website like DPR which has no lack of ads... So I put it in airplane mode and enabled just WiFi to force the issue by disabling cellular data. Notably, it would hold, but then drop WiFi periodically even though it's 2 bars (not 1, indicating "weak" signal). So I switched over to my 2.4GH band which "solved" that problem. Sortaof. You see 2.4GHz doesn't have as much bandwidth as 5GHz, but it does have more signal at longer range. But, 2.4GHz is also very prone to interference as everything uses 2.4GHz, so you want to avoid where possible, keep in mind.

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Then it occurred to me, my router may be dropping my iPhone because the signal is too weak; it may not be "weak" to my iPhone, but below -70 dBi isn't crazy to drop a client. So I delved into my router's professional settings to raise the cutoff to -80dBi (from the default -70 dBi) on the 5GHz band. What happened next was intriguing... My router, stopped working correctly for 5GHz clients even right next to it! I scratched my head momentarily, and quickly dialed it back to -70dBi as it was interrupting my 1 year old's TV show which I was running from my Synology NAS over WiFi (I "rip" all my DVDs; who needs discs if you can create high quality "clickable" content that you control, without ads I might add, that don't touch your ISP data cap either).

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After considering, raising the router's minimum client negotiation to -80dBi, was likely enabling very distant clients to attempt to negotiate my 5GHz band on my Asus GT-AX6000 router which has a "RangeBoot Plus" technology. This is notable as I've taken pride in optimizing the location of my router and band it uses to ensure I can get WiFi reception in my car while driving away from my house so that engaging directions isn't abruptly cut off (highly annoying) and I'd have to agree with Dongknows' results, the Asus GT-AX6000 simply has unbeatable range for a single router solution. Anyhow, little side note and I hope Asus makes a just as capable replacement someday (but thus far the RT-BE88U isn't as "the" dual band WiFi flagship for WiFi 7).

My hypothesis, -80dBi cutoff is permitting my router to become both inudated with client requests (even though they aren't getting fulfilled as it's password protected, not "open"), but this opened up the door that perhaps even at -70dBi, it may be getting plenty with how strong my router is. So, I went through the painful exercise of ensuring everything WiFi in my house was on, get all the MAC addresses, and input them into both my router's 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands wireless Mac filter lists and enabling. Now this will lead to pains for new devices or visitors as I'll have to either disable the filter, or open a guest band, or just add the MACs for new stuff or visiting stuff. However, the results speak for themselves...

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After enabling MAC filtering, I'm now getting 3 full bars on my 5GHz WiFi on my iPhone from the farthest room, I don't even need to switch to 2.4GHz, and, all my WiFi requests are much smoother, and much faster across all clients in the house regardless of distance. I mean a lot faster.

MAC filtering is a not so powerful security mechanism as MAC addresses are easy to "spoof", however, by enabling MAC filtering, it's also enabling the wireless router to "throw away" superfluous WiFi handshake requests from clients it'll never serve up throughout my neighborhood improving both the responsiveness to all my clients, and, improving my network security posture as a script kiddy now has to impersonate one of my devices to "crack" my network. So it's a win-win.

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Anyhow somewhat surprising that such a "low-tech" security approach yields significant network latency and stability gains, but it makes sense... I have a high-powered router with good signal to the entire neighborhood, you should lock that down so it doesn't even attempt to handshake clients that it'll drop (lack of correct password provided). I've never heard of this approach being used to improve signal strength, anywhere, and MAC filtering generally isn't recommended to improve network security as it's generally considered a "weak" form of network security, so I thought I'd pass along that enabling MAC filtering:

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A. It oddly improves WiFi handling to my clients

B. It does offer an additional layer of network security to my WPA2 password, albeit a "weak" one, it's better than no layering at all as it raises the bar to brute force attacker where they have to spoof a MAC, first, before proceeding

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Perhaps someone somewhere has mentioned this before, but I don't recall and hence my passing along that MAC filtering, apparently is still very much valid even in this decade of WPA2 and WPA3 now.
 
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This is very interesting. I can believe your results but am less sure about your explanation. It a very reasonable theory but it would be nice to get confirmation. I don't know how to do that since I can't peek inside my access point chip set to see what's going on. A first step would be to see whether this finding can be duplicated on other makes/models of WiFi access point.
 
This is very interesting. I can believe your results but am less sure about your explanation. It a very reasonable theory but it would be nice to get confirmation. I don't know how to do that since I can't peek inside my access point chip set to see what's going on. A first step would be to see whether this finding can be duplicated on other makes/models of WiFi access point.
It's a fairly easy test - and most router implementations I've seen can toggle MAC filtering on/off trivially.

But bars on an iphone is not a valid data source. Needs to be signal strength. Though not challenging - lots of tools that read wifi strength.

Implementing mac filtering on an Asus leads to a process restart, and that reset alone could explain improved performance in the immediate term. To confirm the hypothesis, filtering should be turned off, router reset again, and then see the drop in signal strength. But if that comes with time...could be a while to show.

If it's really just accumulated clutter, then periodic resets would achieve the same benefit.
 
This is very interesting. I can believe your results but am less sure about your explanation. It a very reasonable theory but it would be nice to get confirmation. I don't know how to do that since I can't peek inside my access point chip set to see what's going on. A first step would be to see whether this finding can be duplicated on other makes/models of WiFi access point.
It's a fairly easy test - and most router implementations I've seen can toggle MAC filtering on/off trivially.
I don't doubt that it works on the OP's setup. I'm more interested in the "why?".
But bars on an iphone is not a valid data source. Needs to be signal strength. Though not challenging - lots of tools that read wifi strength.

Implementing mac filtering on an Asus leads to a process restart, and that reset alone could explain improved performance in the immediate term. To confirm the hypothesis, filtering should be turned off, router reset again, and then see the drop in signal strength. But if that comes with time...could be a while to show.

If it's really just accumulated clutter, then periodic resets would achieve the same benefit.
Yes, on all points. Unfortunately, it won't be easy for me to test. I have four different access points and two people working from home at my place who are not happy when I mess with the network :-)

I'm not convinced that foreign devices scanning or attempting to connect is going have a significant impact on an access point. The hard reset/cold start is maybe a more likely explanation.

Nevertheless, this was a very interesting observation and I would love to know what's really going on.
 
I don't know how things are currently, but up until WiFi 6...or perhaps a bit earlier...the concept of airtime on WiFi networks was important to understand.

The way I recall it being explained to me was a walkie talkie analogy. WiFi is (was?) like a bunch of people using walkie talkies set to the same channel. When one person has the button pushed, they are using the walkie talkie channel and nobody else can. When that person lets go of the button on their radio, then someone else can use the walkie talkie channel. It is/was the same with WiFi but occurring many times per second.

Notice this analogy is, so far, just about the quantity of people. There's nothing analogous to network bandwidth. And that's more or less the the important part about airtime on WiFi networks. Back to the analogy…

I might be like the fast-talker guy from the old FedEx commercials able to speak three or four complete sentences per second (high bandwidth). I'm still not going to be able to get through as many words as I'm theoretically capable of if there's a decent quantity of other people on the walkie talkie channel having conversations like…

Hey
What's up?"
OR
You there?
Gotcha

As the fast talker guy, my ability to “speak” as much as I'm trying to is going to be suppressed by the multiple other short conversations that are hogging the walkie talkie channel.

To state the obvious, this analogy is very oversimplified. And again, I'm not sure if it's even still valid with modern versions of WiFi as I think some of them are able tune airtime among client devices. Just don't forget that features like that in modern versions of WiFi might also require client devices that support those same modern WiFi specs.

Overall, I hope just mentioning the concept of airtime...even in this rudimentary manner...helps to further the understanding that it's not just pure bandwidth and raw signal strength where WiFi is concerned.
 
Yes, on all points. Unfortunately, it won't be easy for me to test. I have four different access points and two people working from home at my place who are not happy when I mess with the network :-)
it's hard enough getting clearance to deploy the needed security fix firmware update that has a 10 minute hit to the network. and there's only one other person in this house...
 
Yes, on all points. Unfortunately, it won't be easy for me to test. I have four different access points and two people working from home at my place who are not happy when I mess with the network :-)
it's hard enough getting clearance to deploy the needed security fix firmware update that has a 10 minute hit to the network. and there's only one other person in this house...
LOL. You truly understand my predicament :-)
 
This is very interesting. I can believe your results but am less sure about your explanation. It a very reasonable theory but it would be nice to get confirmation. I don't know how to do that since I can't peek inside my access point chip set to see what's going on. A first step would be to see whether this finding can be duplicated on other makes/models of WiFi access point.
It's a fairly easy test - and most router implementations I've seen can toggle MAC filtering on/off trivially.
I don't doubt that it works on the OP's setup. I'm more interested in the "why?".
Just a hypothesis, perhaps that Asus rangeboost technology is involved?
But bars on an iphone is not a valid data source. Needs to be signal strength. Though not challenging - lots of tools that read wifi strength.

Implementing mac filtering on an Asus leads to a process restart, and that reset alone could explain improved performance in the immediate term. To confirm the hypothesis, filtering should be turned off, router reset again, and then see the drop in signal strength. But if that comes with time...could be a while to show.

If it's really just accumulated clutter, then periodic resets would achieve the same benefit.
Yes, on all points. Unfortunately, it won't be easy for me to test. I have four different access points and two people working from home at my place who are not happy when I mess with the network :-)

I'm not convinced that foreign devices scanning or attempting to connect is going have a significant impact on an access point. The hard reset/cold start is maybe a more likely explanation.

Nevertheless, this was a very interesting observation and I would love to know what's really going on.
I’ll do a more in depth analysis sometime in the future, time permitting. I can drag my laptop up to the corner room and run metrics with MAC filtering on, off, and report readings of RSSI, TX and RX strengths. Thought it was important I share the initial observations first, as they’re very pronounced. There’s no mistake my entire WiFi setup is more “snappy”. I’m typing this on my iPhone in the other far room, full 3 bars. Begs the question, what is a bar on WiFi on a iPhone? RSSI? RX? Some result of internal apple software? All good questions I’ll try to unravel.
 
I don't know how things are currently, but up until WiFi 6...or perhaps a bit earlier...the concept of airtime on WiFi networks was important to understand.

The way I recall it being explained to me was a walkie talkie analogy. WiFi is (was?) like a bunch of people using walkie talkies set to the same channel. When one person has the button pushed, they are using the walkie talkie channel and nobody else can. When that person lets go of the button on their radio, then someone else can use the walkie talkie channel. It is/was the same with WiFi but occurring many times per second.

Notice this analogy is, so far, just about the quantity of people. There's nothing analogous to network bandwidth. And that's more or less the the important part about airtime on WiFi networks. Back to the analogy…

I might be like the fast-talker guy from the old FedEx commercials able to speak three or four complete sentences per second (high bandwidth). I'm still not going to be able to get through as many words as I'm theoretically capable of if there's a decent quantity of other people on the walkie talkie channel having conversations like…

Hey
What's up?"
OR
You there?
Gotcha

As the fast talker guy, my ability to “speak” as much as I'm trying to is going to be suppressed by the multiple other short conversations that are hogging the walkie talkie channel.

To state the obvious, this analogy is very oversimplified. And again, I'm not sure if it's even still valid with modern versions of WiFi as I think some of them are able tune airtime among client devices. Just don't forget that features like that in modern versions of WiFi might also require client devices that support those same modern WiFi specs.

Overall, I hope just mentioning the concept of airtime...even in this rudimentary manner...helps to further the understanding that it's not just pure bandwidth and raw signal strength where WiFi is concerned.
Agreed. I suspect that either the rangeboost on my asus gt -ax6000 is (not) coming into play as MAC filtering is rejecting distant clients that can’t pass the WPA2 check anyways. that’s my theory, and the outright denial at layer 2 without any cryptographic processing as rejects are occurring regardless of password hash presented on the distant end which would make those conversations really short, just no, no arguments, just no. To your point, reducing overhead traffic potentially as there’s no handshake process, no error correction or retransmission attempts. Just layer 2 auth fault on the header alone.

You know, I could test this by “sniffing” traffic and filtering my own routers responses to see if they’re nonexistent, etc… That’s “hard” though, not the sniffing (easy part), analyzing. Well, perhaps not if I do a metrics analysis only. I’d have to repeat it, that’s a lot of work too… I am curious though.
 
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Just a quick update, my RSSI is -68 with Mac filtering enabled in the corner room according to my MacBook Pro; the routers default cutoff is -70. Talk about cutting it close. This makes more sense now, and also lends credit the range boost may be coming into play with numbers that close.
 
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MAC filtering is impractical in our household because we have hundreds (!) of WiFi devices that would have to be specifically enumerated.

But what about 6E? I just connected to it.

(!) probably somewhat of an exaggeration
 
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MAC filtering is impractical in our household because we have hundreds (!) of WiFi devices that would have to be specifically enumerated.

But what about 6E? I just connected to it.

(!) probably somewhat of an exaggeration
Not gonna lie, doing this was a pain in the bottom. I've got 15 or 16 WiFi devices myself, getting all of em in there, was not fun. Had to get Neato up, all the Watches charged, etc. Felt like running a Nessus scan at work and making sure every printer, every server VM, etc is powered on, to ensure it's on the scan. Very tedious.

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Not suggesting everyone do this, rather providing the observations for those who choose to endeavor to squeeze the last ounce out of their WiFi security, and apparently performance to a degree.

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I ran just fine with WPA2 only for years. But, in hindsight, do I wish I had MAC filtering on too all these years? Yup. Did it take a lot of effort? Yup.

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Can't comment on 6E; the Asus GT-AX6000 I don't believe has it, and most of my devices aren't 6E, yet.
 
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MAC filtering is impractical in our household because we have [many] WiFi devices that would have to be specifically enumerated.

But what about 6E? I just connected to it.
Not gonna lie, doing this was a pain in the bottom. I've got 15 or 16 WiFi devices myself, getting all of em in there, was not fun. Had to get Neato up, all the Watches charged, etc. Felt like running a Nessus scan at work and making sure every printer, every server VM, etc is powered on, to ensure it's on the scan. Very tedious.
It's not just the sheer number of WiFi devices, it's also that some of them take a long time to connect and return to normal. Roku and surveillance cameras are especially lag-prone.

But maybe we can add MAC filtering without power cycling the router?

Hmm, does your Neato run a robot vacuum cleaner? I'm not happy with Roomba and its WiFi connection is relatively useless. Roomba seems to just wander around wasting time.
Can't comment on 6E; the Asus GT-AX6000 I don't believe has it, and most of my devices aren't 6E, yet.
Doesn't make much difference because even 2.4 GHz WiFi is faster than our Internet.
 
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MAC filtering is impractical in our household because we have [many] WiFi devices that would have to be specifically enumerated.

But what about 6E? I just connected to it.
It's not just the sheer number of WiFi devices, it's also that some of them take a long time to connect and return to normal. Roku and surveillance cameras are especially lag-prone.

But maybe we can add MAC filtering without power cycling the router?
Some router software is very friendly at letting you select existing client entries to add to at least the static DHCP table. With the large number of devices I also have, I do like to organize the IP space. Static dhcp gives you the benefits of predictable IP addresses without the hassle if you unplug the device and take it to a new network.

I don't think you lose operation in make the changes, but it may be a day before the devices remap to your new wished locations.
 
MAC filtering is impractical in our household because we have [many] WiFi devices that would have to be specifically enumerated.

But what about 6E? I just connected to it.
Not gonna lie, doing this was a pain in the bottom. I've got 15 or 16 WiFi devices myself, getting all of em in there, was not fun. Had to get Neato up, all the Watches charged, etc. Felt like running a Nessus scan at work and making sure every printer, every server VM, etc is powered on, to ensure it's on the scan. Very tedious.
It's not just the sheer number of WiFi devices, it's also that some of them take a long time to connect and return to normal. Roku and surveillance cameras are especially lag-prone.
Yeah Roku devices need a reboot, which is painful as the rest of my family is relatively technologically impaired, I'm working to add surveillance cameras above and beyond my ADT offering. Big fan of Roku devices, well that could change if they implement that forced ads thing.
But maybe we can add MAC filtering without power cycling the router?
Adding it, interrupts all connections on an Asus router, don't know if you have an Asus, but yeah.
Hmm, does your Neato run a robot vacuum cleaner? I'm not happy with Roomba and its WiFi connection is relatively useless. Roomba seems to just wander around wasting time.
My D5 works great, may not have much personality, but it scores high points on vacuuming. WiFi is excellent.
Can't comment on 6E; the Asus GT-AX6000 I don't believe has it, and most of my devices aren't 6E, yet.
Doesn't make much difference because even 2.4 GHz WiFi is faster than our Internet.
So that's why I choose the GT-AX6000, it's got the most oomph, for 2.4, which matter the most because that has the longest range. I"ve been meaning to do a write up on the GT-AX6000, but it's been around for so long, Dongknows did a good job, but it's "the" router to have, if you don't have 6E or 7 clients (or even if you do as it's again, got class leading 2.4, still, even compared to Asus' newer offerings), which I have one 6E client, and it doesn't matter for that single client as I keep it offline most of the time; I control the internet very tightly with my 5 kids, very, tightly.
 
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So that's why I choose the GT-AX6000, it's got the most oomph, for 2.4, which matter the most because that has the longest range. I"ve been meaning to do a write up on the GT-AX6000, but it's been around for so long, Dongknows did a good job, but it's "the" router to have, if you don't have 6E or 7 clients (or even if you do as it's again, got class leading 2.4, still, even compared to Asus' newer offerings), which I have one 6E client, and it doesn't matter for that single client as I keep it offline most of the time; I control the internet very tightly with my 5 kids, very, tightly.
I have the less-game-looking near equivalent Asus RT-AX88U Pro and I'm also pleased with it. The 2.4 easily reaches SWMBO's sewing room at the upstairs far end of the house from the network closet, through multiple walls. The dongknows review was influential in the purchase decision.
 
So that's why I choose the GT-AX6000, it's got the most oomph, for 2.4, which matter the most because that has the longest range. I"ve been meaning to do a write up on the GT-AX6000, but it's been around for so long, Dongknows did a good job, but it's "the" router to have, if you don't have 6E or 7 clients (or even if you do as it's again, got class leading 2.4, still, even compared to Asus' newer offerings), which I have one 6E client, and it doesn't matter for that single client as I keep it offline most of the time; I control the internet very tightly with my 5 kids, very, tightly.
I have the less-game-looking near equivalent Asus RT-AX88U Pro and I'm also pleased with it. The 2.4 easily reaches SWMBO's sewing room at the upstairs far end of the house from the network closet, through multiple walls. The dongknows review was influential in the purchase decision.
You have the same "guts" as mine, btw ;) I love my GT-AX6000. Dongknows points this out btw.
 
So that's why I choose the GT-AX6000, it's got the most oomph, for 2.4, which matter the most because that has the longest range. I"ve been meaning to do a write up on the GT-AX6000, but it's been around for so long, Dongknows did a good job, but it's "the" router to have, if you don't have 6E or 7 clients (or even if you do as it's again, got class leading 2.4, still, even compared to Asus' newer offerings), which I have one 6E client, and it doesn't matter for that single client as I keep it offline most of the time; I control the internet very tightly with my 5 kids, very, tightly.
I have the less-game-looking near equivalent Asus RT-AX88U Pro and I'm also pleased with it. The 2.4 easily reaches SWMBO's sewing room at the upstairs far end of the house from the network closet, through multiple walls. The dongknows review was influential in the purchase decision.
You have the same "guts" as mine, btw ;) I love my GT-AX6000. Dongknows points this out btw.
Yes, though I think his review's feature list shows that you have an extra USB port mine doesn't.

Why, IDK. Strangely, the original non-Pro RT-AX88U does. Just one of life's little mysteries, I guess. :-)
 
So that's why I choose the GT-AX6000, it's got the most oomph, for 2.4, which matter the most because that has the longest range. I"ve been meaning to do a write up on the GT-AX6000, but it's been around for so long, Dongknows did a good job, but it's "the" router to have, if you don't have 6E or 7 clients (or even if you do as it's again, got class leading 2.4, still, even compared to Asus' newer offerings), which I have one 6E client, and it doesn't matter for that single client as I keep it offline most of the time; I control the internet very tightly with my 5 kids, very, tightly.
I have the less-game-looking near equivalent Asus RT-AX88U Pro and I'm also pleased with it. The 2.4 easily reaches SWMBO's sewing room at the upstairs far end of the house from the network closet, through multiple walls. The dongknows review was influential in the purchase decision.
You have the same "guts" as mine, btw ;) I love my GT-AX6000. Dongknows points this out btw.
Yes, though I think his review's feature list shows that you have an extra USB port mine doesn't.

Why, IDK. Strangely, the original non-Pro RT-AX88U does. Just one of life's little mysteries, I guess. :-)
Different motherboard.

What's amusing, you've got better 4x4 5GHz, I've got MUCH better 2.4GHz long range. What's not so amusing? Asus appears to be dragging their heels on firmware support for mine even though it's the exact same "guts". Doesn't make me happy.

I came from a RT-AX86U before the GT-AX6000, both are dual band routers, and that range boost is no joke on the GT-AX6000 on 2.4GHz... I can get 2.4GHz in the woods out back my house. Nuts.

Pay close attention to dual-band routers, they're arguably the "sweet spot" for most average joes. Deliver top-results for most people. That's what makes the RT-AX88U, GT-AX6000 and upcoming RT-BE88U of interest. The latest benchmarks on that RT-BE88U don't quite line up to either of our routers notably on "legacy" bands. Curious if they'll do a ROG version of it, also with range boost, perhaps to rectify that where we can have a 2.6GHz processor, and same or better range/bandwidth on WIFI 5 clients and 2.4 clients, which is where most of my stuff lives. Even the Roku Pro TV I'm pondering? Only AX, and that just, just, came out.

I could care less about WiFi 7; like 6E, it requires things to be close, to be effective. The only part of the 6E spec that's of interest? Binding 2.4 and 5GHz signals to aggregate data on say a 2x2 modem, example, Intel AX211. Trouble is, you gotta have a Raptor Lake (might be Alder Lake, don't quote me) for that; CPU required apparently, can't just bump a AX210 to a AX211 unless you meet that requirement. Just having a spare 2230 slot ain't enough.
 
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So that's why I choose the GT-AX6000, it's got the most oomph, for 2.4, which matter the most because that has the longest range. I"ve been meaning to do a write up on the GT-AX6000, but it's been around for so long, Dongknows did a good job, but it's "the" router to have, if you don't have 6E or 7 clients (or even if you do as it's again, got class leading 2.4, still, even compared to Asus' newer offerings), which I have one 6E client, and it doesn't matter for that single client as I keep it offline most of the time; I control the internet very tightly with my 5 kids, very, tightly.
I have the less-game-looking near equivalent Asus RT-AX88U Pro and I'm also pleased with it. The 2.4 easily reaches SWMBO's sewing room at the upstairs far end of the house from the network closet, through multiple walls. The dongknows review was influential in the purchase decision.
You have the same "guts" as mine, btw ;) I love my GT-AX6000. Dongknows points this out btw.
Yes, though I think his review's feature list shows that you have an extra USB port mine doesn't.

Why, IDK. Strangely, the original non-Pro RT-AX88U does. Just one of life's little mysteries, I guess. :-)
Different motherboard.

What's amusing, you've got better 4x4 5GHz, I've got MUCH better 2.4GHz long range.
Better Range Boost, and/or different antennas, maybe?
What's not so amusing? Asus appears to be dragging their heels on firmware support for mine even though it's the exact same "guts". Doesn't make me happy.
Especially with that recent series of security updates, though ours don't appear to be affected.

I came from a RT-AX86U before the GT-AX6000, both are dual band routers, and that range boost is no joke on the GT-AX6000 on 2.4GHz... I can get 2.4GHz in the woods out back my house. Nuts.

Pay close attention to dual-band routers, they're arguably the "sweet spot" for most average joes. Deliver top-results for most people. That's what makes the RT-AX88U, GT-AX6000 and upcoming RT-BE88U of interest. The latest benchmarks on that RT-BE88U don't quite line up to either of our routers notably on "legacy" bands. Curious if they'll do a ROG version of it, also with range boost, perhaps to rectify that where we can have a 2.6GHz processor, and same or better range/bandwidth on WIFI 5 clients and 2.4 clients, which is where most of my stuff lives. Even the Roku Pro TV I'm pondering? Only AX, and that just, just, came out.

I could care less about WiFi 7; like 6E, it requires things to be close, to be effective. The only part of the 6E spec that's of interest? Binding 2.4 and 5GHz signals to aggregate data on say a 2x2 modem, example, Intel AX211. Trouble is, you gotta have a Raptor Lake (might be Alder Lake, don't quote me) for that; CPU required apparently, can't just bump a AX210 to a AX211 unless you meet that requirement. Just having a spare 2230 slot ain't enough.
I don't require really high speeds to the laptops, and there is the distance factor at 5 GHz. I'd have kept my older RT-AX68U except after I got the GFiber the tech showed me that their base 1 Gb/sec was actually about 1.15 max...and I had to have it all.

So I found the RT-AX88U Pro, with its 2.5 Gb/sec ports, because the Raptor Lake desktop has 'em too. Silly to worry about so small a difference, but OCD will not be denied. :-)

No plans to buy anything fancier, no need at this time.
 

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