Why no articulating screen on 6D

[Moti #79385]

I got so excited when the 6D was announced, but alas, my joy was short term, and I ask -Why no articulating screen?




Because of my height and age (strange, but excuses nevertheless), the articulating screen on my 60D is the reason I didn't buy the 7D.




Does anyone have the "true" reason why Canon did not incorporate this feature in the 6D?

 

[photosen]

I sure don't have the true reason why, and Canon employees are probably forbidden to talk, but following the reasoning of the slower shutter, they were probably looking to offer a full frame camera with a newer sensor at the lowest possible cost...

 

[pgb]

It would cost more and the competition is fierce or for the same reason as no flash.

The 6D does have Wifi live view to offset this. Having a waist level viewfinder again would be good. It would be slow for fast subjects, here's my workaround.




















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In the beginning was the rhythm but I had forgotten and was waiting for the beat.

 

[Moti #79385]

pgb wrote:

It would cost more and the competition is fierce or for the same reason as no flash.

The 6D does have Wifi live view to offset this. Having a waist level viewfinder again would be good. It would be slow for fast subjects, here's my workaround.





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In the beginning was the rhythm but I had forgotten and was waiting for the beat.

Hmmmmm - that looks interesting. I am inherently lazy. Would you mind giving me all of the specifics of how you put it together (hot shoe adapter/ball head/App).

 

[pgb]

It only exists in Photoshop. Search Ebay for the hot shoe ball head, $12, I think.

The iphone could be velcro-ed on to the hot shoe disc or better still use a larger plate

with a threaded hole and this is velcro-ed to the iphone. The app is supplied with the 6D.




The WiFi delay could be an issue with action, fine for landscapes.


peter

 

[balloonchasers]

Because Nikon has decided it is not necessary to provide. Possilby because they believe it is not a game changer that would cause people to pick one brand over another...
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...n-pros-dont-want-articulating-screens-1062390

No need to add a feature if the competition doesn't think it is important and it isn't helping you sell more cameras....

 

[Bernard D]

A Canon representative told me that the reason there was no flash with the 6D is to fit the GPS and WiFi interface at the top of the camera, where the flash usually is.

Bernard

 

[Matt105483]

Bernard D wrote:

A Canon representative told me that the reason there was no flash with the 6D is to fit the GPS and WiFi interface at the top of the camera, where the flash usually is.
Bernard

 

[Suave]

Because Canon reserved it for a future model.

 

[elfroggio]

Matt wrote:

Bernard D wrote:

A Canon representative told me that the reason there was no flash with the 6D is to fit the GPS and WiFi interface at the top of the camera, where the flash usually is.

I call BS on that ... surely there would be a different location. It rather seems like Canon doesnt put flash in their full frame and pro cameras and honestly, I wouldnt miss it.

The reason for the 6Ds plastic housing is apparently so that the antennas will work under it, which also seems a cheap explanation

For decent to good GPS reception, the GPS module must be as close as possible to the top of the camera. any other location will reduce the effectiveness of the GPS module, especially with interferences from the wireless module and the other electronics.

From personal experience, I can tell you that a wireless antenna under metal housing works very poorly.

That's why when people use GPS inside their car, they place it by the windshield or if it is built-in, the antenna/shark fin is on top of the car.

 

[rrccad]

Matt wrote:

Bernard D wrote:

A Canon representative told me that the reason there was no flash with the 6D is to fit the GPS and WiFi interface at the top of the camera, where the flash usually is.
Bernard

 

[Matt105483]

elfroggio wrote:

Matt wrote:

Bernard D wrote:

A Canon representative told me that the reason there was no flash with the 6D is to fit the GPS and WiFi interface at the top of the camera, where the flash usually is.

I call BS on that ... surely there would be a different location. It rather seems like Canon doesnt put flash in their full frame and pro cameras and honestly, I wouldnt miss it.

The reason for the 6Ds plastic housing is apparently so that the antennas will work under it, which also seems a cheap explanation

For decent to good GPS reception, the GPS module must be as close as possible to the top of the camera. any other location will reduce the effectiveness of the GPS module, especially with interferences from the wireless module and the other electronics.

From personal experience, I can tell you that a wireless antenna under metal housing works very poorly.

That's why when people use GPS inside their car, they place it by the windshield or if it is built-in, the antenna/shark fin is on top of the car.

obviously. but then its enough to have a small plastic part and the antenna under it (Apparently it is just that way as I just found out)

 

[kimvette]

Moti wrote:

I got so excited when the 6D was announced, but alas, my joy was short term, and I ask -Why no articulating screen?

I have been wondering the same. It's as if the body were designed for the articulated screen, then Canon decided to cheap out and not put a hinge there.

I dislike the forced reorganization and dumbing down of the camera that the hinge forces (due to the loss of space for the left-side controls) but the 6D is the perfect candidate for an articulated screen, because it doesn't have controls there.It has more of a Rebel layout to it.

Because of my height and age (strange, but excuses nevertheless), the articulating screen on my 60D is the reason I didn't buy the 7D.

Does anyone have the "true" reason why Canon did not incorporate this feature in the 6D?

 

[skanter]

Its hard to understand. I, for one, would not buy a camera with a fixed screen. The articulating screen is essential for me for stills and video.

 

[jcochran]

My guess is that future 6D replacements will be introduced periodically that will include things like the articulated screen, all cross type sensors, the ability to save source files during HDR exposures, on board flash, intervalometer, turn on features already available in the software, and other things Canon has already perfected so that buyers, both new and old will continue to purchase this entry level FF camera for years. This is the model they used in the Rebel line. So for little R&D costs they should be able to make a decent profit by incrementally including features buyers wanted to see in the original 6D.

 

[lbuclk=]

skanter wrote:

Its hard to understand. I, for one, would not buy a camera with a fixed screen. The articulating screen is essential for me for stills and video.

 

[Jeff Peterman]

If you have to use an iPhone ...

I use my Android phone (a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket) to control my camera, using a USB cable and a cable adapter, together with the DSLR Controller app. The latter lets me see the live image on the phone screen and access many of the camera controls, including setting the focus position, setting the exposure, and even taking the shot. I don't attach the phone to the top, preferring to use it as a tethered remote, and find it very useful for operating the 7D on a tripod, especially for macro shots.

I can also do the same thing with my Android tablet.

 

[Suave]

It would make sense if only either mode had a decent autofocus.

 

[MtOly]

skanter wrote:

Its hard to understand. I, for one, would not buy a camera with a fixed screen. The articulating screen is essential for me for stills and video.