Why is ON1 Photo Raw showing green fringing where none should exist?

[Platographer]

I have been trying ON1 Photo Raw recently. This problem was present in both 2021 and 2022 versions. Upon importing a certain raw file, I noticed very bad green fringing in several parts of the photo, where there is no visible green fringing on the OOC jpeg (when opened in ON1 or elsewhere) or the rendering LR provides with the same raw file, even without any green defringing applied in LR. Using green defringing in ON1 does not fully remove it even at max and that causes issues elsewhere in the photo. Converting the raw file to DNG prior to importing to ON1 does not resolve the issue. I can remove virtually all of the green fringing with local desaturation of green using a color adjustment filter, but it still doesn't look quite right and that is a lot of work to do for green fringing that shouldn't even be there in the first place.

Does anyone have an explanation for this or any advice? I bought ON1 Photo Raw 2022 before I realized this problem and I really want to make it work as my primary editor. Below is a screenshot of the raw file in ON1 (left) compared to Lightroom (right) at 200%. Both images have white balance at 5400, tint +6, and highlights -100. The ON1 version has max green fringing reduction and no purple fringing reduction while the Lightroom version has no green fringing reduction and very slight purple fringing reduction.

 

[Dareshooter]

You might have your camera set up to remove chromatic abberation/fringing which applies only to the JPEG rendering. However your raw software cannot read this and it needs to be applied manually . I don't use On1 I use Lightroom which can be set up to apply lens correction, CA etc on import . No idea if On1 can do this but maybe you can find an option for this within the software.

 

[Platographer]

You might have your camera set up to remove chromatic abberation/fringing which applies only to the JPEG rendering. However your raw software cannot read this and it needs to be applied manually . I don't use On1 I use Lightroom which can be set up to apply lens correction, CA etc on import . No idea if On1 can do this but maybe you can find an option for this within the software.

I should have specified that I turned off "remove chromatic aberration" in LR for this comparison. I appreciate the reply, but that is not the issue. If I reduce purple defringing from 2 to 0 in LR, there is a little purple fringing in the LR version that is reduced by checking the "remove chromatic aberration" box. But it is not green fringing nor is it as bad or hard to remove as the green fringing in ON1. I have green defringing set to max in the ON1 version and no green defringing in the LR version and the green fringing is still awful.

 

[Dareshooter]

You might have your camera set up to remove chromatic abberation/fringing which applies only to the JPEG rendering. However your raw software cannot read this and it needs to be applied manually . I don't use On1 I use Lightroom which can be set up to apply lens correction, CA etc on import . No idea if On1 can do this but maybe you can find an option for this within the software.

I should have specified that I turned off "remove chromatic aberration" in LR for this comparison. I appreciate the reply, but that is not the issue. If I reduce purple defringing from 2 to 0 in LR, there is a little purple fringing in the LR version that is reduced by checking the "remove chromatic aberration" box. But it is not green fringing nor is it as bad or hard to remove as the green fringing in ON1. I have green defringing set to max in the ON1 version and no green defringing in the LR version and the green fringing is still awful.

OK fair enough,sorry I couldn't help.

 

[Platographer]

You might have your camera set up to remove chromatic abberation/fringing which applies only to the JPEG rendering. However your raw software cannot read this and it needs to be applied manually . I don't use On1 I use Lightroom which can be set up to apply lens correction, CA etc on import . No idea if On1 can do this but maybe you can find an option for this within the software.

I should have specified that I turned off "remove chromatic aberration" in LR for this comparison. I appreciate the reply, but that is not the issue. If I reduce purple defringing from 2 to 0 in LR, there is a little purple fringing in the LR version that is reduced by checking the "remove chromatic aberration" box. But it is not green fringing nor is it as bad or hard to remove as the green fringing in ON1. I have green defringing set to max in the ON1 version and no green defringing in the LR version and the green fringing is still awful.

OK fair enough,sorry I couldn't help.

No worries! I appreciate what you said, as it was a good guess about what the problem might be.

 

[charlyw64]

You might have your camera set up to remove chromatic abberation/fringing which applies only to the JPEG rendering. However your raw software cannot read this and it needs to be applied manually . I don't use On1 I use Lightroom which can be set up to apply lens correction, CA etc on import . No idea if On1 can do this but maybe you can find an option for this within the software.

I should have specified that I turned off "remove chromatic aberration" in LR for this comparison. I appreciate the reply, but that is not the issue. If I reduce purple defringing from 2 to 0 in LR, there is a little purple fringing in the LR version that is reduced by checking the "remove chromatic aberration" box. But it is not green fringing nor is it as bad or hard to remove as the green fringing in ON1. I have green defringing set to max in the ON1 version and no green defringing in the LR version and the green fringing is still awful.

I am willing to bet that the lens profile On1 has for the lens in question is bad (possibly derived from a very bad sample) - and it's the defringing in On1 that is producing the green fringe (because the green color looks like the complimentary color to the purple you get)...

 

[tgmobile]

Have you tried turning of Show focus mask

 

[Platographer]

You might have your camera set up to remove chromatic abberation/fringing which applies only to the JPEG rendering. However your raw software cannot read this and it needs to be applied manually . I don't use On1 I use Lightroom which can be set up to apply lens correction, CA etc on import . No idea if On1 can do this but maybe you can find an option for this within the software.

I should have specified that I turned off "remove chromatic aberration" in LR for this comparison. I appreciate the reply, but that is not the issue. If I reduce purple defringing from 2 to 0 in LR, there is a little purple fringing in the LR version that is reduced by checking the "remove chromatic aberration" box. But it is not green fringing nor is it as bad or hard to remove as the green fringing in ON1. I have green defringing set to max in the ON1 version and no green defringing in the LR version and the green fringing is still awful.

I am willing to bet that the lens profile On1 has for the lens in question is bad (possibly derived from a very bad sample) - and it's the defringing in On1 that is producing the green fringe (because the green color looks like the complimentary color to the purple you get)...

When I turn off lens correction in ON1, the green fringing stays the same. Does that mean it is not caused by bad lens correction?

 

[charlyw64]

You might have your camera set up to remove chromatic abberation/fringing which applies only to the JPEG rendering. However your raw software cannot read this and it needs to be applied manually . I don't use On1 I use Lightroom which can be set up to apply lens correction, CA etc on import . No idea if On1 can do this but maybe you can find an option for this within the software.

I should have specified that I turned off "remove chromatic aberration" in LR for this comparison. I appreciate the reply, but that is not the issue. If I reduce purple defringing from 2 to 0 in LR, there is a little purple fringing in the LR version that is reduced by checking the "remove chromatic aberration" box. But it is not green fringing nor is it as bad or hard to remove as the green fringing in ON1. I have green defringing set to max in the ON1 version and no green defringing in the LR version and the green fringing is still awful.

I am willing to bet that the lens profile On1 has for the lens in question is bad (possibly derived from a very bad sample) - and it's the defringing in On1 that is producing the green fringe (because the green color looks like the complimentary color to the purple you get)...

When I turn off lens correction in ON1, the green fringing stays the same. Does that mean it is not caused by bad lens correction?

It's one possibility - the other is that you can't turn off the lens correction as the camera/lens manufacturer could have made that correction mandatory (this is true for some manufacturers in Lightroom, I don't know if that situation is the same for On1).

 

[Platographer]

You might have your camera set up to remove chromatic abberation/fringing which applies only to the JPEG rendering. However your raw software cannot read this and it needs to be applied manually . I don't use On1 I use Lightroom which can be set up to apply lens correction, CA etc on import . No idea if On1 can do this but maybe you can find an option for this within the software.

I should have specified that I turned off "remove chromatic aberration" in LR for this comparison. I appreciate the reply, but that is not the issue. If I reduce purple defringing from 2 to 0 in LR, there is a little purple fringing in the LR version that is reduced by checking the "remove chromatic aberration" box. But it is not green fringing nor is it as bad or hard to remove as the green fringing in ON1. I have green defringing set to max in the ON1 version and no green defringing in the LR version and the green fringing is still awful.

I am willing to bet that the lens profile On1 has for the lens in question is bad (possibly derived from a very bad sample) - and it's the defringing in On1 that is producing the green fringe (because the green color looks like the complimentary color to the purple you get)...

When I turn off lens correction in ON1, the green fringing stays the same. Does that mean it is not caused by bad lens correction?

It's one possibility - the other is that you can't turn off the lens correction as the camera/lens manufacturer could have made that correction mandatory (this is true for some manufacturers in Lightroom, I don't know if that situation is the same for On1).

Hmm, but if it was a mandatory lens correction controlled by the lens manufacturer, wouldn't the corrections be the same in ON1 as in LR? In LR, there is virtually no fringing on most of the parts of the photo that look like Christmas in ON1. These results are the same regardless of whether lens correction is on or off in the programs.

 

[charlyw64]

You might have your camera set up to remove chromatic abberation/fringing which applies only to the JPEG rendering. However your raw software cannot read this and it needs to be applied manually . I don't use On1 I use Lightroom which can be set up to apply lens correction, CA etc on import . No idea if On1 can do this but maybe you can find an option for this within the software.

I should have specified that I turned off "remove chromatic aberration" in LR for this comparison. I appreciate the reply, but that is not the issue. If I reduce purple defringing from 2 to 0 in LR, there is a little purple fringing in the LR version that is reduced by checking the "remove chromatic aberration" box. But it is not green fringing nor is it as bad or hard to remove as the green fringing in ON1. I have green defringing set to max in the ON1 version and no green defringing in the LR version and the green fringing is still awful.

I am willing to bet that the lens profile On1 has for the lens in question is bad (possibly derived from a very bad sample) - and it's the defringing in On1 that is producing the green fringe (because the green color looks like the complimentary color to the purple you get)...

When I turn off lens correction in ON1, the green fringing stays the same. Does that mean it is not caused by bad lens correction?

It's one possibility - the other is that you can't turn off the lens correction as the camera/lens manufacturer could have made that correction mandatory (this is true for some manufacturers in Lightroom, I don't know if that situation is the same for On1).

Hmm, but if it was a mandatory lens correction controlled by the lens manufacturer, wouldn't the corrections be the same in ON1 as in LR? In LR, there is virtually no fringing on most of the parts of the photo that look like Christmas in ON1. These results are the same regardless of whether lens correction is on or off in the programs.

It may be instructions that are embedded in the RAW which could be misinterpreted by On1.

 

[Platographer]

You might have your camera set up to remove chromatic abberation/fringing which applies only to the JPEG rendering. However your raw software cannot read this and it needs to be applied manually . I don't use On1 I use Lightroom which can be set up to apply lens correction, CA etc on import . No idea if On1 can do this but maybe you can find an option for this within the software.

I should have specified that I turned off "remove chromatic aberration" in LR for this comparison. I appreciate the reply, but that is not the issue. If I reduce purple defringing from 2 to 0 in LR, there is a little purple fringing in the LR version that is reduced by checking the "remove chromatic aberration" box. But it is not green fringing nor is it as bad or hard to remove as the green fringing in ON1. I have green defringing set to max in the ON1 version and no green defringing in the LR version and the green fringing is still awful.

I am willing to bet that the lens profile On1 has for the lens in question is bad (possibly derived from a very bad sample) - and it's the defringing in On1 that is producing the green fringe (because the green color looks like the complimentary color to the purple you get)...

When I turn off lens correction in ON1, the green fringing stays the same. Does that mean it is not caused by bad lens correction?

It's one possibility - the other is that you can't turn off the lens correction as the camera/lens manufacturer could have made that correction mandatory (this is true for some manufacturers in Lightroom, I don't know if that situation is the same for On1).

Hmm, but if it was a mandatory lens correction controlled by the lens manufacturer, wouldn't the corrections be the same in ON1 as in LR? In LR, there is virtually no fringing on most of the parts of the photo that look like Christmas in ON1. These results are the same regardless of whether lens correction is on or off in the programs.

It may be instructions that are embedded in the RAW which could be misinterpreted by On1.

Interesting. I have not found any other mention of this problem though. You would think it would be reported a lot given how many people have Sony Alpha cameras. This problem is ridiculous.

 

[tgmobile]

Hi Platographer The focus mask in On One puts a green edge around all that is in focus. To turn it on or off go to View, the drop down menu will show focus mask then click on or off. Hope this helps

 

[Platographer]

Hi Platographer The focus mask in On One puts a green edge around all that is in focus. To turn it on or off go to View, the drop down menu will show focus mask then click on or off. Hope this helps

Thanks, but that is not the issue.

 

[Platographer]

Update: After trying ON1's suggestions and still experiencing the issue, ON1's tech support rep said they determined the problem was caused by a bug and sent a report to their development team to make an update or patch. So that is great news! I am pleased by their response and look forward to using ON1 once this issue is fixed.

 

[Platographer]

Update: After trying ON1's suggestions and still experiencing the issue, ON1's tech support rep said they determined the problem was caused by a bug and sent a report to their development team to make an update or patch. So that is great news! I am pleased by their response and look forward to using ON1 once this issue is fixed.

Update 2: After this was not fixed in the last release, I pinged tech support. They told me they still don't have an ETA for when the issue will be fixed, but said they expected it to happen "later next year." So, I am quite displeased and not optimistic. I may ask for a refund. Maybe the next major release will fix this weird issue and add adjustment layers, which I imagine would be very easy to add because an adjustment layer would function exactly the same as an image layer except it would have no image and would apply to all layers under it.

 

[Peter J Svensson Photoscriptum]

I have the same problem but for the purple fringe. I need to add that Photoshop corrects it but not completely. I will also contact ON1 for this. Note: the pano function in ON1 is not working as expected. I will also report this.

 

[Platographer]

I have the same problem but for the purple fringe. I need to add that Photoshop corrects it but not completely. I will also contact ON1 for this. Note: the pano function in ON1 is not working as expected. I will also report this.

Yeah, I gave up on ON1 a while ago. Even when this fringing issue didn't show, I just found the software disappointing on several fronts. I am slowly learning Photoshop and happy I am doing so because I really need that level of control to satisfy my perfectionism. I desperately wanted to find an easier program that met my needs so I didn't have to learn Photoshop, but I don't think such a program exists.

 

[PixelBuddy]

Here it is December 2022 and I just tried the HDR feature after downloading the latest update to ON1 Photo Raw. Never seen this amount of green red fringing in my career. Image is unusable.

Then I used Capture One Pro 22 on the same three images and it was fine, no fringing. So they haven’t fixed the problem even with the latest update.