Why hide Exif?

[Nuno Vedder]

hello Dp.

This is a Photoforum and most of the users here, r looking for learning and acquire knowledge about the Art of Photograph.

sometimes i ask my self, why the majority of the dp users, and people from others forums and gallerys hide the exif of their shoots? I think, this information is a very Usefull Tool, for people like me that always want to learn little more!!!

Its very important for you hide this information???If yes...why?
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Nikon User
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http://www.pbase.com/nunotorres

 

[antonoat]

Hi Nuno, I agree with you entirely, although I guess it's up to the individual.
I nevre hide mine !
Regards
Tony

http://www.pbase.com/antonoat

 

[Wick Smith]

A lot of the posting sites will strip pictures of their EXIF information as a matter of course, especially when those images are reduced by the site itself.

As you doubtless know, you cannot post pictures here directly. You upload them to a third party site and simply point to that location in your messages here.

What you may want to try is to go to the address of the posting site itself and look at the picture in its original size, if available. that will the image most likely to have EXIF intact.

Finally, some sites allow you to display or hide EXIF info, but the default is to hide. So if you don't specifically choose to reveal EXIF, it doesn't get displayed.

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-wick

 

[michaeladawson]

I don't intentionally do anything to my photos. I use PBase. I do PP in Photoshop, convert to sRGB and 8-bit, then save to JPG and upload into PBase.

If you go to my PBase site and bring up a photo there is a "show EXIF" link which brings up limited information (model, lens, aperture, shutter speed, ISO, metering and focus mode, and a few more).

However, if you right click on the image and choose "view Exif with IExif" (have Opanda installed) it says that there is no Exif information to display.

If someone has a good answer to this (and how to fix it) I'd love to hear it.
--
Mike Dawson

 

[larsbc]

hello Dp.
This is a Photoforum and most of the users here, r looking for
learning and acquire knowledge about the Art of Photograph.
sometimes i ask my self, why the majority of the dp users, and people
from others forums and gallerys hide the exif of their shoots? I
think, this information is a very Usefull Tool, for people like me
that always want to learn little more!!!

Its very important for you hide this information???If yes...why?

It's not always intentional. I use Photoshop and generate JPGs using Save For Web which automatically strips the EXIF info. I believe there's an option to retain it, or maybe it's retained if I do Save As, but I always forget to look into it.

larsbc

 

[OleThorsen]

I don't intentionally do anything to my photos. I use PBase. I do
PP in Photoshop, convert to sRGB and 8-bit, then save to JPG and
upload into PBase.

If you go to my PBase site and bring up a photo there is a "show
EXIF" link which brings up limited information (model, lens,
aperture, shutter speed, ISO, metering and focus mode, and a few
more).

However, if you right click on the image and choose "view Exif with
IExif" (have Opanda installed) it says that there is no Exif
information to display.

If someone has a good answer to this (and how to fix it) I'd love to
hear it.

Do you use "save as.." or "save for web.."? The first option keeps the EXIF data, and the second option removes EXIF data, as far as I know.

Regards
Ole Thorsen
http://www.pbase.com/ole_thorsen

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Knowing what
thou knowest not
is in a sense
omniscience.
(Grook by Piet Hein)

 

[W A Stewart]

If people use Photoshop's Web Gallery utility, even if they've saved jpg's that include EXIF data, the default setting removes them ("data" are plural). You have to check "Preserve all metadata" and then they are retained.
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W Alex Stewart

 

[Flashlight]

I still use Photoshop 7 and that strips part or all the exif. I never strip it off intentionally, but I'm not going to buy a different program because someone might be interested in the shooting information of my photos.

--
Philip

 

[Joe Ellis]

I have a lot of different reasons, but mostly it's because I know how much it pisses you off.

 

[Steve Bingham]

It just seems that way. Frequently when photographs are manipulated and saved EXIF info is lost. Here is an example of a photo who's EXIF I did not purposely hide! When it was resized for the web and saved as a jpg the EXIF info went away.

However, If you are curious about any of my web images I would be more than happy to give you the EXIF info via e-mail. I mean, this IS a helping forum!!!



--
Steve Bingham
http://www.dustylens.com

 

[Diddlbiker]

hello Dp.
...i ask my self, why the majority of the dp users, and people
from others forums and gallerys hide the exif of their shoots?

Nuno, most people don't hide their EXIF on purpose. It gets removed easily during PP'ing, and sometimes the image hosting website strips EXIF from the (usually resized) picture that is shown on the web.

So the question is not "why do people hide their exif" but "why are the exif's of their pictures hidden" and the answer is that photo-editing software vendors and photo sharing sites do apparently not see any value in EXIF data!

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Cheers,
Bart

 

[OleThorsen]

It just seems that way. Frequently when photographs are manipulated
and saved EXIF info is lost. Here is an example of a photo who's EXIF
I did not purposely hide! When it was resized for the web and saved
as a jpg the EXIF info went away.
However, If you are curious about any of my web images I would be
more than happy to give you the EXIF info via e-mail. I mean, this IS
a helping forum!!!

Then the question just remains which of the two EXIF sets you would provide ; )

Regards
Ole Thorsen
http://www.pbase.com/ole_thorsen

• OMNISCIENCE

Knowing what
thou knowest not
is in a sense
omniscience.
(Grook by Piet Hein)

 

[michaeladawson]

I use "Save as..." I NEVER use "Save for web".

I don't intentionally do anything to my photos. I use PBase. I do
PP in Photoshop, convert to sRGB and 8-bit, then save to JPG and
upload into PBase.

If you go to my PBase site and bring up a photo there is a "show
EXIF" link which brings up limited information (model, lens,
aperture, shutter speed, ISO, metering and focus mode, and a few
more).

However, if you right click on the image and choose "view Exif with
IExif" (have Opanda installed) it says that there is no Exif
information to display.

If someone has a good answer to this (and how to fix it) I'd love to
hear it.

Do you use "save as.." or "save for web.."? The first option keeps
the EXIF data, and the second option removes EXIF data, as far as I
know.

Regards
Ole Thorsen
http://www.pbase.com/ole_thorsen

• OMNISCIENCE

Knowing what
thou knowest not
is in a sense
omniscience.
(Grook by Piet Hein)

--
Mike Dawson

 

[michaeladawson]

If you choose the PBase link to view Exif info it is displayed. Obviously the Exif information was there to begin with. If you use a third party utility like Opanda then PBase mysteriously refuses to divulge the information.
--
Mike Dawson

 

[Greg Terzian]

Hey Steve, nice photo. What's the story with that building?

It just seems that way. Frequently when photographs are manipulated
and saved EXIF info is lost. Here is an example of a photo who's EXIF
I did not purposely hide! When it was resized for the web and saved
as a jpg the EXIF info went away.
However, If you are curious about any of my web images I would be
more than happy to give you the EXIF info via e-mail. I mean, this IS
a helping forum!!!



--
Steve Bingham
http://www.dustylens.com

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http://www.screamandfly.com

 

[funnelwebmaster]

Speaking of which do you or anyone know of any freeware that allows one to strip EXIF from files? I don't want to go about it by using the 'save for web' option in PS/PSE, which apparently degrades the image quality somewhat by compressing the file.

I have a lot of different reasons, but mostly it's because I know how
much it pisses you off.

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I have a Bessamatic...and I've been trained to use it.



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[WeB52]

I have written an "action" that I click then it shrinks the photo to size I want, adds some sharpening, saves to folder I want, then goes backward to bigger size and saves the full-size PSD (and last-minute changes) back to the original folder.

When I had the command "save as jpeg" it often would not go to the folder I wanted, OR it would save EVERY picture to the SAME FILENAME! Thus when I processed a batch of 10 photos, I had only one picture (the last one) in the web-sharing size, and I had ONLY ONE ORIGINAL! Of course, I still had the NEF, and I had any PSD files previously saved, but all the last sharpenings etc. were lost.

When I used the "save for web" command then it would keep the two folders in the right places, and it would not try to write all the files over each other.

Now, I know that Photoshop CAN do all that and also save the EXIF, but I'm not that good with it. yet.

So, Nuno-- I AM LAZY. I want to automate as much as possible, and "save for web" is easy. Sorry to hide it.... if there are any shots you want me to go look for the EXIF, I'll do it.

Oh. also, some photo sites strip it off because it makes for bigger files. A few bytes times a few million photos starts to add up.
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Bill
http://web52.smugmug.com

 

[WeB52]

With the "save for web" you have the option of saving in some really good quality jpeg algorithms, if you want. In CS3 it even gives you a choice of how to resample (bicubic sharper, smoother, etc.). A good bit of the savings comes from the EXIF itself being thrown out, imho.

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Bill
http://web52.smugmug.com

 

[BasilG]

This is a Photoforum and most of the users here, r looking for
learning and acquire knowledge about the Art of Photograph.

And you think you can aquire knowledge about the art of photography from exif data?

BG

 

[Alejandro Daz del Ro Fery]

No exif information in the image



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