Tuning Lightroom camera profiles: a useful Adobe hidden feature

[Tatouzou]

I usually shoot RAW+JPEG and only process the RAW when I am not pleased enough by the OOC JPEG.

I use Lightroom 6.14, the last standalone perpetual license version.

I then look for Lightroom camera profiles mimicking the in-camera JPEG profiles, so that I get a starting point close to the OOC JPEG rendering.

But Adobe doesnt provide these profiles for every camera.

I suppose it requests some extra work from both Adobe and the camera manufacturer.

For instance, Adobe provides profiles for my Panasonic G7 and GX8, and I like them, they are truly close to the OOC JPEGs of these cameras.

But I have struggled to find Lightroom camera profiles for my Panasonic GM5 that could fit this workflow.

Finally, yesterday, I found how to adapt to another camera the profiles that Lightroom provided for a different camera.

This is possible with Adobe DNG profile editor, a freeware you can download on Adobe.com official website:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html#downloads

Here is the specific link for the window version:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5493

There is also a link to a tutorial, which explains how to do:

https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/conten...p/pdfs/cs6/DNGProfile_EditorDocumentation.pdf

Following the process described in tutorial 2 (page 6-7), I created GM 5 camera profiles using the colour adjustments of Adobe's G7 camera profiles because I liked their rendering and I guessed G7 16MP sensor could be close enough to GM5 16MP sensor, as G7 is a middle level camera released only 9 months after the GM5.

I am very pleased with the results, which fit my expectations.

I will try now the same trick to adapt the Pentax K3-II camera profiles to my Pentax K3, as Lightroom doesnt provide K3 camera profiles, and K3-II is very close to K3.

The tutorial goes further, suggesting to adapt a Canon EOS 5D DNG profile to a Nikon 200.

I will also check whether profiles adapted from a camera using a different sensor, and even across brands, produce interesting results.

I guess these camera specific profiles apply colour corrections to the adobe standard camera profile, which is why it might work even on very different cameras.

For this, I only need a DNG file from the camera used to provide the source profiles: I suppose I can download a RAW file among the samples provided by DPreview.

I would be interested in feedback from other members in this forum who have used such adapted camera profiles.

--
Tatouzou,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/70066783@N06/

 

[sankos]

I will try now the same trick to adapt the Pentax K3-II camera profiles to my Pentax K3, as Lightroom doesnt provide K3 camera profiles, and K3-II is very close to K3.

You could also decompile the K-3 II camera profiles with the dcpTool, change their name to K3, recompile and use in Lr with K3 raw files.

Or, it's even easier to use RawTherapee or DxO PhotoLab and apply those K3II profiles to K3 raw files.

 

[Danielx64]

I usually shoot RAW+JPEG and only process the RAW when I am not pleased enough by the OOC JPEG.

I use Lightroom 6.14, the last standalone perpetual license version.

I then look for Lightroom camera profiles mimicking the in-camera JPEG profiles, so that I get a starting point close to the OOC JPEG rendering.

But Adobe doesnt provide these profiles for every camera.

I suppose it requests some extra work from both Adobe and the camera manufacturer.

For instance, Adobe provides profiles for my Panasonic G7 and GX8, and I like them, they are truly close to the OOC JPEGs of these cameras.

But I have struggled to find Lightroom camera profiles for my Panasonic GM5 that could fit this workflow.

Finally, yesterday, I found how to adapt to another camera the profiles that Lightroom provided for a different camera.

This is possible with Adobe DNG profile editor, a freeware you can download on Adobe.com official website:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html#downloads

Here is the specific link for the window version:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5493

There is also a link to a tutorial, which explains how to do:

https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/conten...p/pdfs/cs6/DNGProfile_EditorDocumentation.pdf

Following the process described in tutorial 2 (page 6-7), I created GM 5 camera profiles using the colour adjustments of Adobe's G7 camera profiles because I liked their rendering and I guessed G7 16MP sensor could be close enough to GM5 16MP sensor, as G7 is a middle level camera released only 9 months after the GM5.

I am very pleased with the results, which fit my expectations.

I will try now the same trick to adapt the Pentax K3-II camera profiles to my Pentax K3, as Lightroom doesnt provide K3 camera profiles, and K3-II is very close to K3.

The tutorial goes further, suggesting to adapt a Canon EOS 5D DNG profile to a Nikon 200.

I will also check whether profiles adapted from a camera using a different sensor, and even across brands, produce interesting results.

I guess these camera specific profiles apply colour corrections to the adobe standard camera profile, which is why it might work even on very different cameras.

For this, I only need a DNG file from the camera used to provide the source profiles: I suppose I can download a RAW file among the samples provided by DPreview.

I would be interested in feedback from other members in this forum who have used such adapted camera profiles.

 

[Charles2]

it's even easier to use RawTherapee and apply those K3II profiles to K3 raw files.

Right.

Click there and navigate to any profile you have.

 

[Tatouzou]

Tatouzou wrote: (...)

Finally, yesterday, I found how to adapt to another camera the profiles that Lightroom provided for a different camera.

This is possible with Adobe DNG profile editor, a freeware you can download on Adobe.com official website:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html#downloads

Here is the specific link for the window version:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5493

(...)

This link (http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5493) 8s taking me to a Mac download?

sorry for the mistake. here is the link to the windows download:

https://supportdownloads.adobe.com/detail.jsp?ftpID=5494

 

[Tatouzou]

it's even easier to use RawTherapee and apply those K3II profiles to K3 raw files.

Right.

Click there and navigate to any profile you have.

I use Lightroom library to sort and cure my photography, and Lightroom developement for post processing.

I may seldom use the Pentax or Panasonic free Silkypix software when I want some of their specific features, but it is time consuming to divert from my main workflow.

It took me a long time to master my workflow and I am not willing to learn other tools as long as Lightroom provides me the features useful to my workflow.

--
Tatouzou,

Tatouzou

Explore Tatouzou’s 1,522 photos on Flickr!

www.flickr.com

 

[Tatouzou]

I will try now the same trick to adapt the Pentax K3-II camera profiles to my Pentax K3, as Lightroom doesnt provide K3 camera profiles, and K3-II is very close to K3.

You could also decompile the K-3 II camera profiles with the dcpTool, change their name to K3, recompile and use in Lr with K3 raw files.

Adobe dng profile editor does the job; it is easy and intuitive.

Why would I look for another way to adapt profiles?

What would be useful to me would be other members feedback about using cameras profiles across brands or models: do they work always OK or have they met any issue?

Or, it's even easier to use RawTherapee or DxO PhotoLab and apply those K3II profiles to K3 raw files.

I have already answered why I dont want to run other PP tools besides Lightroom. My son uses DXO, I tested the free trial version but didnt buy it, as, unless I run it besides LR, I would loose the Lightroom powerful library database.

 

[sankos]

I will try now the same trick to adapt the Pentax K3-II camera profiles to my Pentax K3, as Lightroom doesnt provide K3 camera profiles, and K3-II is very close to K3.

You could also decompile the K-3 II camera profiles with the dcpTool, change their name to K3, recompile and use in Lr with K3 raw files.

Adobe dng profile editor does the job; it is easy and intuitive.

Why would I look for another way to adapt profiles?

I thought I'd add another option if you (or anybody else) were interested.

Honestly, though, I think Adobe should have overhauled their HSL module a long time ago, so that the colour wheel system from the Profile Editor could be incorporated into the main workspace of Lr / ACR. Their competition have done it a long time ago.