AhLimPaS
Well-known member
Look here & view the numbers of posts per forum:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/
Nikon Talk, D70, D100/D1/D2, SLR Lens Talk
Canon Talk, EOS-300D, EOS-10D/D60/D30, EOS-1D/1DS, SLR Lens Talk
The writing is on the wall. In the past year, the Olympus Talk forum has more than doubled & is now one of the busiest forums in DPREVIEW. Soon you may see.
Olympus Talk, C-8080, C-7xx, UZI, C-50xx
Is this what you really want? Are you sure this is what we really need?
I come to Olympus forum to learn, not just from the camera that I own, but from the others that own other cameras too. I find it important to see what people are doing with their non-DSLR cameras, no matter the model type. It is the differences that make these cameras unique to each other & teach us the limitations & boundaries of each camera in the Olympus line. When I see a fine UZI image, I don’t think, just an UZI & it is years & years old; I think of how fine that image looks & how my C8080 would do in such a situation & even that my c8080 cannot begin to compete with such a fine piece of art. If they take the UZI away from us & place it in another forum, then I won't be seeing those fine images any longer. To me, this is a waste & a great sadness.
The important thing is that Olympus Talk is a family & we may soon be split up. This is not something that Phil is currently contemplating, but the writing is on the wall. We are posting too much & eventually as more & more people will come to our site here. In a way, it truly is just a matter of time & eventually Olympus will be cut up & divided. There is nothing to stop this. It is inevitability.
But we can postpone it. We can, as a group, delay the inevitable for as long as possible so the Olympus family can flourish until there is so many of us that it won't really matter to us. But I'm thinking that a change soon would impact us greatly & there would be loss. I for one would hate to lose notice of the incredible photos & knowledge that the C-50xx crowd has to offer. The camera is near to my C8080 that I would fear I would be losing the many chances I currently have to better myself.
Sure, I could look at the C-50xx forum, but really how often would I truly look at it?
But what can we do? The best thing we can do is limit our posts.
IMHO, if your personal post has fallen to 12hrs then you should let it fall down unless it is critical. When you reply, it should be to the top 10 posts & the things that have fallen should die out, unless they’re critically important posts, then by all means bump them. Your personal posts should be limited to one or two at the max per day. And of course, it's a given that important news or a new camera will flood the forum & in that case it is okay.
The reasoning is that every day during the morning hours there is a frenzy of activity from daybreak ‘til noon. People have come back from vacations, have shot the moon, have processed their images in the wee hours of the night, or like most are simply awake & caffeine-buzzed & typing like madmen & madwomen. I've been logged in on a Saturday morning & it becomes insane, topics drift to page 2 in less than an 1hr. Posts are made at a rampant rate & the popular ones get hits every 5 minutes, & rightly so. I like a good debate as much as any of us,& those popular ones are fine & good. Post as much as you like to something at the top. But have courtesy to those that have valid questions so that they aren't dropped off the front page news & obscured into the pages beyond. And have courtesy not to post multiple topics in the same day. Write them down in a word doc to ask on future dates. Don't flood the board.
There is nothing more important than courtesy. Be kind & let others post too. If you look at your "My Threads", there is no reason to reply & give thanks if the thread is a day or more old. In fact, if it isn't gathering replies, letting it die is usually the best course of action.
Don't be so surprised when this happens. It will happen, even on very good threads. Bump once & leave it alone. If it fails again, it simply wasn't meant to be. Find new ways to present yourself if you want to have a popular thread. Make your threads interesting or expect them to fail.
As an example, this is how I work my time on the forums. I look at “my threads” & see if something has been said recently. If there hasn't, I look at the top 10 threads on page 1. If I see something interesting, I reply to it & this does change the sort order very much. If I have something to say, I say it in a new post & try to do my best to make the subject line appear appealing. People are very good at that here, making elusive statements that get people to look at their threads such as "I saw a tiger in the park."
And all the people will flock to it like feeding birds. People are really quite creative with their post statements.
If you post more than once a day, that's okay, but at least be interesting. Be interesting .
Use the search feature when you have a question! Most of the answers to your questions have already been asked. The answers are usually there.
Don't make double/triple/multiple posts on the same subject (i.e. digital
zoom).
That is all I have to say. Try your best to help the cause of maintaining the family. It is a good cause. I would rather have the Olympus Talk forum than to have 4 separate forums for as long as possible. The selfishness of some people will topple over the fragile house of cards that Phil Askey built & he will divide us. He will have no choice, just as he had no choice but to divide the Canon & Nikon forums. If you have something to say, then say it. If you just want to talk, then find value in the top ten threads of the time on page 1 & don't alter things so much.
This is all I can do to help us remain the family that we are. Unclique.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/
Nikon Talk, D70, D100/D1/D2, SLR Lens Talk
Canon Talk, EOS-300D, EOS-10D/D60/D30, EOS-1D/1DS, SLR Lens Talk
The writing is on the wall. In the past year, the Olympus Talk forum has more than doubled & is now one of the busiest forums in DPREVIEW. Soon you may see.
Olympus Talk, C-8080, C-7xx, UZI, C-50xx
Is this what you really want? Are you sure this is what we really need?
I come to Olympus forum to learn, not just from the camera that I own, but from the others that own other cameras too. I find it important to see what people are doing with their non-DSLR cameras, no matter the model type. It is the differences that make these cameras unique to each other & teach us the limitations & boundaries of each camera in the Olympus line. When I see a fine UZI image, I don’t think, just an UZI & it is years & years old; I think of how fine that image looks & how my C8080 would do in such a situation & even that my c8080 cannot begin to compete with such a fine piece of art. If they take the UZI away from us & place it in another forum, then I won't be seeing those fine images any longer. To me, this is a waste & a great sadness.
The important thing is that Olympus Talk is a family & we may soon be split up. This is not something that Phil is currently contemplating, but the writing is on the wall. We are posting too much & eventually as more & more people will come to our site here. In a way, it truly is just a matter of time & eventually Olympus will be cut up & divided. There is nothing to stop this. It is inevitability.
But we can postpone it. We can, as a group, delay the inevitable for as long as possible so the Olympus family can flourish until there is so many of us that it won't really matter to us. But I'm thinking that a change soon would impact us greatly & there would be loss. I for one would hate to lose notice of the incredible photos & knowledge that the C-50xx crowd has to offer. The camera is near to my C8080 that I would fear I would be losing the many chances I currently have to better myself.
Sure, I could look at the C-50xx forum, but really how often would I truly look at it?
But what can we do? The best thing we can do is limit our posts.
IMHO, if your personal post has fallen to 12hrs then you should let it fall down unless it is critical. When you reply, it should be to the top 10 posts & the things that have fallen should die out, unless they’re critically important posts, then by all means bump them. Your personal posts should be limited to one or two at the max per day. And of course, it's a given that important news or a new camera will flood the forum & in that case it is okay.
The reasoning is that every day during the morning hours there is a frenzy of activity from daybreak ‘til noon. People have come back from vacations, have shot the moon, have processed their images in the wee hours of the night, or like most are simply awake & caffeine-buzzed & typing like madmen & madwomen. I've been logged in on a Saturday morning & it becomes insane, topics drift to page 2 in less than an 1hr. Posts are made at a rampant rate & the popular ones get hits every 5 minutes, & rightly so. I like a good debate as much as any of us,& those popular ones are fine & good. Post as much as you like to something at the top. But have courtesy to those that have valid questions so that they aren't dropped off the front page news & obscured into the pages beyond. And have courtesy not to post multiple topics in the same day. Write them down in a word doc to ask on future dates. Don't flood the board.
There is nothing more important than courtesy. Be kind & let others post too. If you look at your "My Threads", there is no reason to reply & give thanks if the thread is a day or more old. In fact, if it isn't gathering replies, letting it die is usually the best course of action.
Don't be so surprised when this happens. It will happen, even on very good threads. Bump once & leave it alone. If it fails again, it simply wasn't meant to be. Find new ways to present yourself if you want to have a popular thread. Make your threads interesting or expect them to fail.
As an example, this is how I work my time on the forums. I look at “my threads” & see if something has been said recently. If there hasn't, I look at the top 10 threads on page 1. If I see something interesting, I reply to it & this does change the sort order very much. If I have something to say, I say it in a new post & try to do my best to make the subject line appear appealing. People are very good at that here, making elusive statements that get people to look at their threads such as "I saw a tiger in the park."
And all the people will flock to it like feeding birds. People are really quite creative with their post statements.
If you post more than once a day, that's okay, but at least be interesting. Be interesting .
Use the search feature when you have a question! Most of the answers to your questions have already been asked. The answers are usually there.
Don't make double/triple/multiple posts on the same subject (i.e. digital
zoom).
That is all I have to say. Try your best to help the cause of maintaining the family. It is a good cause. I would rather have the Olympus Talk forum than to have 4 separate forums for as long as possible. The selfishness of some people will topple over the fragile house of cards that Phil Askey built & he will divide us. He will have no choice, just as he had no choice but to divide the Canon & Nikon forums. If you have something to say, then say it. If you just want to talk, then find value in the top ten threads of the time on page 1 & don't alter things so much.
This is all I can do to help us remain the family that we are. Unclique.