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I'm too stressed to watche this one for an hour, but thank you for you kind thought.
Ever so often Tony mis-speaks or gets a technical detail wrong, but overall his photography instruction is quality stuff, and I give him some leaway.

But this time, well, I couldn't finish it. Things got too weird.

Once again, he is insisting that Olympus have not developed on-sensor phase detect auto focusing (in the video he stated that neither Panasonic nor Olympus had PDAF). He has made this comment in other videos and I thought at one point back when that he just meant that Olympus needed to improve, further develop their PDAF, but no I played this one back a few times and he is saying that Olympus don't have PDAF (which isn't true, of course).

Then at about 13:50 he states that Panasonic will probably abandon μ4/3, his reasoning being that it would be ridiculous for Panasonic to develop two systems simultaneously. Really???? I wonder what he thinks about Panasonic supporting compact cameras, consumer camcorders, and all the professional broadcast and filmmaking video equipment as well? Why doesn't he think that such a huge corporation as Panasonic can support more than one digital MILC which Canon, Nikon, Sony, and even Fujifilm do? Yes, Pentax seem to be straining a bit (God bless them), and maybe I forgot someone. Strange.

There were some other flubs, but these two alone are pretty egregious IMO, and methinks that Tony's judgement is somewhat clouded here.
I'm too stressed by Tony Northrup's video now to watch these other ones, perhaps tomorrow...

😳
 
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I'm too stressed to watche this one for an hour, but thank you for you kind thought.
Ever so often Tony mis-speaks or gets a technical detail wrong, but overall his photography instruction is quality stuff, and I give him some leaway.

But this time, well, I couldn't finish it. Things got too weird.

Once again, he is insisting that Olympus have not developed on-sensor phase detect auto focusing (in the video he stated that neither Panasonic nor Olympus had PDAF). He has made this comment in other videos and I thought at one point back when that he just meant that Olympus needed to improve, further develop their PDAF, but no I played this one back a few times and he is saying that Olympus don't have PDAF (which isn't true, of course).

Then at about 13:50 he states that Panasonic will probably abandon μ4/3, his reasoning being that it would be ridiculous for Panasonic to develop two systems simultaneously. Really???? I wonder what he thinks about Panasonic supporting compact cameras, consumer camcorders, and all the professional broadcast and filmmaking video equipment as well? Why doesn't he think that such a huge corporation as Panasonic can support more than one digital MILC which Canon, Nikon, Sony, and even Fujifilm do? Yes, Pentax seem to be straining a bit (God bless them), and maybe I forgot someone. Strange.

There were some other flubs, but these two alone are pretty egregious IMO, and methinks that Tony's judgement is somewhat clouded here.
I'm too stressed by Tony Northrup's video now to watch these other ones, perhaps tomorrow...

😳
Ahah, That channel is a bit Canon Fanatic's don't worrie.

:-D
 
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Tony and Chelsea (This channel is a bit Canon biased)



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Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.
Pure logic is the ruin of the spirit.
If plan A doesn't work, the alphabet has 25 more letters, keep calm.
Imagination is more important than knowledge.
God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.
Aleo Photo Site


The handling should be as good as the Nikon Z ones.

I'm very eager to know how the AF system will behave.

Coming to ML from scratch, better to study all the options :)

Nikon Z is well placed but this Panasonic proposal with dual memory slots seems very appealing too. Now need to know the AF system is fast or not
 
The handling should be as good as the Nikon Z ones.

I'm very eager to know how the AF system will behave.

Coming to ML from scratch, better to study all the options :)

Nikon Z is well placed but this Panasonic proposal with dual memory slots seems very appealing too. Now need to know the AF system is fast or not
Panasonic Lumix have improved the AF system lately, and before was and is good, see the G9 for example I do not have complains on mine.

Guess you have to wait a bit for know well, I^like Nikon Z also but this S1R seems better even in video. Panasonic have a good reputation from a long time on video, remember that does Pro TV cameras for all purposes like Sony.





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Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.


Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.


Pure logic is the ruin of the spirit.


If plan A doesn't work, the alphabet has 25 more letters, keep calm.


Imagination is more important than knowledge.


God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.


Aleo Photo Site
 
Most youtube vlogger videos are intended as much to satisfy the ego of the vlogger as to relay pertinent information. I really wish more of these people would just say "We really don't know enough to comment intelligently right now".

Complaining that the top LCD in the photo looks like it's from the 80s? Really?

I'm not part of the crowd that likes to speculate-often mindlessly-about what might be in the offing, then critique a camera based on the unsupported speculation. I prefer to wait for real specs.
 
Most youtube vlogger videos are intended as much to satisfy the ego of the vlogger as to relay pertinent information. I really wish more of these people would just say "We really don't know enough to comment intelligently right now".

Complaining that the top LCD in the photo looks like it's from the 80s? Really?

I'm not part of the crowd that likes to speculate-often mindlessly-about what might be in the offing, then critique a camera based on the unsupported speculation. I prefer to wait for real specs.
Yes you are right. As they tell it's only their opinion.
 
Thanks for the information and links Aleo.

I presume that this is still at mockup early beta test stage and there might still be things that can be changed - but I suspect that the basic camera is more or less set in concrete.

I lead a busy life - probably spend too much time on dpreview anyway and I just don’t sit and watch videos - whether they are about cameras or anything else. I don’t need that sort of slo-mo “entertainment”. :)

So I will comment on a couple of features that the new S1 camera bodies seem to be offering:

Firstly the row of button across the top of the camera plate. It might look good but I am not so sure of the ergonomics. I quite forget that they are there on the G9 and if I do remember then I don’t remember which one is which without peeking at them. Maybe I should train myself better.... in any case just two buttons there might be easier but in my case it is a strain on my index (shutter) finger to crane it back that far - maybe I am just getting old and stiff?

I do think that the front wheel is better place on this camera that it is on the G9 and perhaps with the shifting of the location of the front wheel those buttons may well be easier to access with the index (shutter) finger. I still think two buttons would be easier than three.

The multi-way lcd - I am sure that it must work well but I suggest it is “the tilt screen that FAS users might accept more readily” rather than “the portrait-mode tilter for which tilt screen users might be thought desperate for”. I manage very well with simple tilt one way screen and see no need for a further complication.

FAS users will probably still not be happy with this new arrangement becasue it will not swivel so that it can be seen from the front of the camera and tilt screen users have always been happy enough with the simple single tilt mechanism.

This is just another evolution of camera design that is trying to make one section of camera users happy that is not really needed by another section of users and will not appease the first section because it will not do 100% of what they want.

But I am a convinced tilter and as long as the lcd stays behind the camera at all times and can do the simple tilt when I need it then I will be happy.

Oh ... and I look forward to the GX9 lookalike RF version of this camera and will not be so foolish as to jump quickly on the bandwaggon for the faux-slr body version like I did with the G9.

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Thanks for the information and links Aleo.

I presume that this is still at mockup early beta test stage and there might still be things that can be changed - but I suspect that the basic camera is more or less set in concrete.

I lead a busy life - probably spend too much time on dpreview anyway and I just don’t sit and watch videos - whether they are about cameras or anything else. I don’t need that sort of slo-mo “entertainment”. :)

So I will comment on a couple of features that the new S1 camera bodies seem to be offering:

Firstly the row of button across the top of the camera plate. It might look good but I am not so sure of the ergonomics. I quite forget that they are there on the G9 and if I do remember then I don’t remember which one is which without peeking at them. Maybe I should train myself better.... in any case just two buttons there might be easier but in my case it is a strain on my index (shutter) finger to crane it back that far - maybe I am just getting old and stiff?

I do think that the front wheel is better place on this camera that it is on the G9 and perhaps with the shifting of the location of the front wheel those buttons may well be easier to access with the index (shutter) finger. I still think two buttons would be easier than three.

The multi-way lcd - I am sure that it must work well but I suggest it is “the tilt screen that FAS users might accept more readily” rather than “the portrait-mode tilter for which tilt screen users might be thought desperate for”. I manage very well with simple tilt one way screen and see no need for a further complication.

FAS users will probably still not be happy with this new arrangement because it will not swivel so that it can be seen from the front of the camera and tilt screen users have always been happy enough with the simple single tilt mechanism.

This is just another evolution of camera design that is trying to make one section of camera users happy that is not really needed by another section of users and will not appease the first section because it will not do 100% of what they want.

But I am a convinced tilter and as long as the lcd stays behind the camera at all times and can do the simple tilt when I need it then I will be happy.

Oh ... and I look forward to the GX9 lookalike RF version of this camera and will not be so foolish as to jump quickly on the bandwaggon for the faux-slr body version like I did with the G9.
Thank you Tom, i appreciate your comment.
 
But I am a convinced tilter and as long as the lcd stays behind the camera at all times and can do the simple tilt when I need it then I will be happy.

Oh ... and I look forward to the GX9 lookalike RF version of this camera and will not be so foolish as to jump quickly on the bandwaggon for the faux-slr body version like I did with the G9.
I'm with you on both points!
 
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I'm too stressed to watche this one for an hour, but thank you for you kind thought.
Ever so often Tony mis-speaks or gets a technical detail wrong, but overall his photography instruction is quality stuff, and I give him some leaway.

But this time, well, I couldn't finish it. Things got too weird.

Once again, he is insisting that Olympus have not developed on-sensor phase detect auto focusing (in the video he stated that neither Panasonic nor Olympus had PDAF). He has made this comment in other videos and I thought at one point back when that he just meant that Olympus needed to improve, further develop their PDAF, but no I played this one back a few times and he is saying that Olympus don't have PDAF (which isn't true, of course).

Then at about 13:50 he states that Panasonic will probably abandon μ4/3, his reasoning being that it would be ridiculous for Panasonic to develop two systems simultaneously. Really???? I wonder what he thinks about Panasonic supporting compact cameras, consumer camcorders, and all the professional broadcast and filmmaking video equipment as well? Why doesn't he think that such a huge corporation as Panasonic can support more than one digital MILC which Canon, Nikon, Sony, and even Fujifilm do? Yes, Pentax seem to be straining a bit (God bless them), and maybe I forgot someone. Strange.

There were some other flubs, but these two alone are pretty egregious IMO, and methinks that Tony's judgement is somewhat clouded here.
I'm too stressed by Tony Northrup's video now to watch these other ones, perhaps tomorrow...

😳
To me, the interesting point is the 'it would be ridiculous for Panasonic to develop two systems".

Obviously, just pausing for a moment to think about the logic of this is crazy. Not only do other, smaller companies support two systems and no one makes these remarks. but Panasonic is not even supporting either of these systems alone.

Yet but both opponents and supporters of m43, express the view that Panasonic is 'betraying' 4ms by adopting a 35mm FF systems, and will logically need to reduce or quit involvement with m43 as a consequence.

It made me wonder: Why are so many people drawing such a clearly illogical conclusion?

I have come to the conclusion, m43 and full frame has collected supporters or fans in the way football clubs collect fans from around the world. If football clubs like Liverpool can collect supporters from around the world with no logical connection with Liverpool who have their happiness affected how the football team performs, then clearly there is a supporter/fan mentality that becomes important to people and become part of their identity.

This not only happens with football, it also happens between brands, and is even cultivated by some companies as it gives extremely loyal customers. Advertising for such brands strongly feature customers of the brand, rather than just the products alone, with the goal of creating an image of the user of the product, not just the product.

Somehow this identify seems to have formed around m43 vs FF, in such a way that it seems like Panasonic supporting both formats is like a football coach who helps coach a second team in the same competition.

Logically, Panasonic entering an additional market segment should be like Maserati releasing an SUV, in that it expands the R&D budget and makes the brand stronger overall. Even some purists complain, no-one said "so they will have to stop making sports cars now because you can't make both".

Somehow, m43 vs 35mm FF, is a more passionate (and less logical) subject than sports cars vs SUVs.

People thinking this way may be illogical, but it does seem to be real, and may even unexpectedly damage 'team m43' even though logically Panasonic going further into imaging and mirror-less should make things stronger.

It is hard to see how this illogical but widespread feeling of Panasonic 'betraying' m43 can be overcome.
 
Most youtube vlogger videos are intended as much to satisfy the ego of the vlogger as to relay pertinent information. I really wish more of these people would just say "We really don't know enough to comment intelligently right now".
Trouble is that would be the main content then of many of their vlogs. Could become even more boring them simply repeating that same true statement each time.
Complaining that the top LCD in the photo looks like it's from the 80s? Really?

I'm not part of the crowd that likes to speculate-often mindlessly-about what might be in the offing, then critique a camera based on the unsupported speculation. I prefer to wait for real specs.
 
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There is a photograph of these two cameras in the same frame in this post

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61736688

As the G9 is already larger than the Sony A7Riii I can be counted out for S1 camera body.

The idea of going mirrorless was to make the camera bodies smaller than their dslr equivalent (or at least in my opinion).

I will keep and open mind but if the S1 is going to be this big it is not going to particularly enthuse this fellow.

Maybe we wll get a more compact RF style body as well - as the GX9 is to the G9?

--
Tom Caldwell
 
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I'm too stressed to watche this one for an hour, but thank you for you kind thought.
Ever so often Tony mis-speaks or gets a technical detail wrong, but overall his photography instruction is quality stuff, and I give him some leaway.

But this time, well, I couldn't finish it. Things got too weird.

Once again, he is insisting that Olympus have not developed on-sensor phase detect auto focusing (in the video he stated that neither Panasonic nor Olympus had PDAF). He has made this comment in other videos and I thought at one point back when that he just meant that Olympus needed to improve, further develop their PDAF, but no I played this one back a few times and he is saying that Olympus don't have PDAF (which isn't true, of course).

Then at about 13:50 he states that Panasonic will probably abandon μ4/3, his reasoning being that it would be ridiculous for Panasonic to develop two systems simultaneously. Really???? I wonder what he thinks about Panasonic supporting compact cameras, consumer camcorders, and all the professional broadcast and filmmaking video equipment as well? Why doesn't he think that such a huge corporation as Panasonic can support more than one digital MILC which Canon, Nikon, Sony, and even Fujifilm do? Yes, Pentax seem to be straining a bit (God bless them), and maybe I forgot someone. Strange.

There were some other flubs, but these two alone are pretty egregious IMO, and methinks that Tony's judgement is somewhat clouded here.
I'm too stressed by Tony Northrup's video now to watch these other ones, perhaps tomorrow...

😳
To me, the interesting point is the 'it would be ridiculous for Panasonic to develop two systems".

Obviously, just pausing for a moment to think about the logic of this is crazy. Not only do other, smaller companies support two systems and no one makes these remarks. but Panasonic is not even supporting either of these systems alone.

Yet but both opponents and supporters of m43, express the view that Panasonic is 'betraying' 4ms by adopting a 35mm FF systems, and will logically need to reduce or quit involvement with m43 as a consequence.

It made me wonder: Why are so many people drawing such a clearly illogical conclusion?

I have come to the conclusion, m43 and full frame has collected supporters or fans in the way football clubs collect fans from around the world. If football clubs like Liverpool can collect supporters from around the world with no logical connection with Liverpool who have their happiness affected how the football team performs, then clearly there is a supporter/fan mentality that becomes important to people and become part of their identity.

This not only happens with football, it also happens between brands, and is even cultivated by some companies as it gives extremely loyal customers. Advertising for such brands strongly feature customers of the brand, rather than just the products alone, with the goal of creating an image of the user of the product, not just the product.

Somehow this identify seems to have formed around m43 vs FF, in such a way that it seems like Panasonic supporting both formats is like a football coach who helps coach a second team in the same competition.

Logically, Panasonic entering an additional market segment should be like Maserati releasing an SUV, in that it expands the R&D budget and makes the brand stronger overall. Even some purists complain, no-one said "so they will have to stop making sports cars now because you can't make both".

Somehow, m43 vs 35mm FF, is a more passionate (and less logical) subject than sports cars vs SUVs.

People thinking this way may be illogical, but it does seem to be real, and may even unexpectedly damage 'team m43' even though logically Panasonic going further into imaging and mirror-less should make things stronger.

It is hard to see how this illogical but widespread feeling of Panasonic 'betraying' m43 can be overcome.
Where does all this depressing doom & gloom come from on this website, i do-not see it elsewhere. The so-called abandonment of Panasonic in MFT (or the total demise of Oly!) is utter nonsense.

In the Panasonic LumixLive presentation at Photokina, the head of their imaging dept clearly stated;

"FF & MFT will co-exist based on useage and application"
&
"MFT has the advantage of mobility and high-speed response so it can be used aboard every category of photography and video"


He added that this was to put Panasonic in the hands of the 'professional market', hence the LumixPRO initiative. This tells me that Panasonic is committing to BOTH the amateur/enthusiast as well as the professional markets and i therefore look forward to continued development in MFT.

There has never been a better time for photographers and with both 10yrs in MFT and now L-Mount, Panasonic is probably in the best place to take advantage of having two systems, bringing exciting new developments ...all of which will to our benefit. I personally cannot wait to try both systems side-by-side.

Courtesy of Panasonic LumixLive Photokina 2018.
Courtesy of Panasonic LumixLive Photokina 2018.

p.s. Mods - you should stick this slide on the MFT forum and see if it will cheer anyone up.
 
There is a photograph of these two cameras in the same frame in this post

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61736688

As the G9 is already larger than the Sony A7Riii I can be counted out for S1 camera body.

The idea of going mirrorless was to make the camera bodies smaller than their dslr equivalent (or at least in my opinion).

I will keep and open mind but if the S1 is going to be this big it is not going to particularly enthuse this fellow.

Maybe we wll get a more compact RF style body as well - as the GX9 is to the G9?
I think is the mount size that do not allow smaller.
 
There is a photograph of these two cameras in the same frame in this post

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61736688

As the G9 is already larger than the Sony A7Riii I can be counted out for S1 camera body.

The idea of going mirrorless was to make the camera bodies smaller than their dslr equivalent (or at least in my opinion).

I will keep and open mind but if the S1 is going to be this big it is not going to particularly enthuse this fellow.

Maybe we wll get a more compact RF style body as well - as the GX9 is to the G9?
 
There is a photograph of these two cameras in the same frame in this post

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61736688

As the G9 is already larger than the Sony A7Riii I can be counted out for S1 camera body.

The idea of going mirrorless was to make the camera bodies smaller than their dslr equivalent (or at least in my opinion).

I will keep and open mind but if the S1 is going to be this big it is not going to particularly enthuse this fellow.

Maybe we wll get a more compact RF style body as well - as the GX9 is to the G9?
I think is the mount size that do not allow smaller.
Aleo

My posts seem to be almost getting negative of the S1 camera body but in reality I am just trying to place it in the market as I see it.

Sony has managed to make very compact FF ML camera bodies (A7 & A9) but Panasonic seems to be heading for a larger body. Considering that both Nikon and Canon have released mid-range FF ML bodies as their first offerings so as to exclude their Pro-level dslr cameras from competition it seems to me that perhaps Panasonic is setting out to offer a Pro-level competing FF ML body from the word “go”.

If indeed Panasonic is gunning for a serious Pro-user presence at the Japanese Olympic games it makes sense for them to skip over mid-range amateurs and go directly to the Pro-market who want something powerful and reliable and are not so hung up over compact size. Furthermore if a Pro-shooter is also using a great big lens at the time then “big everything” impresses more. Add the fact that Panasonic has launched a Pro-support system already.

So a bevy of large S1R bodies with big new very obvious Sigma or Leica lenses on them cosying up in the Pro-shooter mosh pit with some (many?) becoming antique-looking Pro-Level Canon dslr and a couple of Nikons?

So would we mind if Panasonic offers Pro-capable and Pro-sized camera bodies at mid-range pricing? Maybe that is why the two models? The full on expensive Pro camera body - expensive unless you are indeed a Pro on a special deal. And a more subdued cheaper look-alike model at a more affordable price?

Myself I would prefer something more A7R size and I am sure that a company that could give us the GM5 would easily be able to give us a FF ML camera body the size of an A7RIII.

The GX9 followed the G9 just like night followed day - maybe a compact RF style SX1 would be more to my personal taste.

But in the meantime the S1R is for the Pros at the Olympics and there might be some really good deals being offered to them.
 
I agree with your comments but Maserati making a SUV is probably just what those worried about Panasonic going into FF ML actually worry about. A relatively small company stretching its resources too thin. More like my rural blacksmith who can either make horseshoes or wrought iron gates but not both - an analogy I have already made elsewhere.

A better car analogy might be Ford or Toyota deciding to make trucks or sports cars (if they were not already involved in that sector) they are obviously big enough to diversify without leaving the regular passenger car making industry.

That Panasonic is a huge diversified company well beyond the imagination of most and can and have easily added further even more diverse products to their catalogue means that they can set out to try and capture a share of the FF ML market when they can. This is expanding their camera business - not changing its nature.

Furthermore loyal Football fans of Liverpool might not need to also follow a Rugby team if the club should ever decide to also sponsor a team in a different code.

That Panasonic would abandon a carefully nurtured and well developed M4/3 system would be so incredible as to beggar belief.
 
There is a photograph of these two cameras in the same frame in this post

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61736688

As the G9 is already larger than the Sony A7Riii I can be counted out for S1 camera body.

The idea of going mirrorless was to make the camera bodies smaller than their dslr equivalent (or at least in my opinion).

I will keep and open mind but if the S1 is going to be this big it is not going to particularly enthuse this fellow.

Maybe we wll get a more compact RF style body as well - as the GX9 is to the G9?
I think is the mount size that do not allow smaller.
Aleo

My posts seem to be almost getting negative of the S1 camera body but in reality I am just trying to place it in the market as I see it.

Sony has managed to make very compact FF ML camera bodies (A7 & A9) but Panasonic seems to be heading for a larger body. Considering that both Nikon and Canon have released mid-range FF ML bodies as their first offerings so as to exclude their Pro-level dslr cameras from competition it seems to me that perhaps Panasonic is setting out to offer a Pro-level competing FF ML body from the word “go”.

If indeed Panasonic is gunning for a serious Pro-user presence at the Japanese Olympic games it makes sense for them to skip over mid-range amateurs and go directly to the Pro-market who want something powerful and reliable and are not so hung up over compact size. Furthermore if a Pro-shooter is also using a great big lens at the time then “big everything” impresses more. Add the fact that Panasonic has launched a Pro-support system already.

So a bevy of large S1R bodies with big new very obvious Sigma or Leica lenses on them cosying up in the Pro-shooter mosh pit with some (many?) becoming antique-looking Pro-Level Canon dslr and a couple of Nikons?

So would we mind if Panasonic offers Pro-capable and Pro-sized camera bodies at mid-range pricing? Maybe that is why the two models? The full on expensive Pro camera body - expensive unless you are indeed a Pro on a special deal. And a more subdued cheaper look-alike model at a more affordable price?

Myself I would prefer something more A7R size and I am sure that a company that could give us the GM5 would easily be able to give us a FF ML camera body the size of an A7RIII.

The GX9 followed the G9 just like night followed day - maybe a compact RF style SX1 would be more to my personal taste.

But in the meantime the S1R is for the Pros at the Olympics and there might be some really good deals being offered to them.
I like the Sony but like better the Nikon Z, the case is that I do not have any lens for any of them without adapter, neither for Canon R.

To me the chance is that I will get the S1R, because I already had a good experience with Panasonic Lumix, they do great video and most important the Leica and Panasonic lenses that I like a lot. But the two card slots are also a big argument.

I am not much worried about the size, anyway the lenses will be bigger and we can not compare neither have so small cameras and lenses like in M /43.

But let's wait and have reviews and first hand on's on both Panasonic Lumix S cameras.
 
You are quite right - but only a small proportion of the M4/3 went into meltdown.

I am glad that they have never worked in an organisation I was running - we need sterner and more resolute stuff to man the barricades. But as they seem to have calmed down again - maybe they had a cup of tea and a good lie down :) - I had best not stir it up again.

When someone ran a poll it seemed that the vast majority on M4/3 were completely unfazed by Panasonics FF ML initiative.

In fact it clears up several clues that I am putting into my “2 + 2 =“ equation.

Large body - almost pro-dslr size.

Emphasis on “perfection” (as per your example) for pro shooters (expensive for everyone else). Not a cheap A7III clone on the drawing board.

Needed for the Japanese Olympics - special (even more expensive) low volume lenses to be expected. Sigma and Leica to the fore?

Result: hey... Panasonic is going to make this camera very good indeed and its price will send the wannabe FF ML guys into excesses of despair and vow that they will never ever pay that kind of money for camera kit and will stick to M4/3 to “punish” Panasonic (grin).

Game over - but after the Olympics there will suddenly be smaller and more affordable FF ML camera bodies from Panasonic - all will be forgiven and common sense will prevail.

Meanwhile Panasonic has introduced six new M4/3 bodies including a global shutter GM5 remake and ten new lenses for the format all of them large and expensive (only teasing) and fleshing out the format.

... or that at least is my story .....
 

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