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Hi! I'm fairly new to the DSLR world, but have been doing lots of homework the past week. I'm on the fence between the SD9 or the Canon 10D. I've read a lot of the forum postings, reviews and spent about 15min on the phone earlier with Sigma. Just thought I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and what was the final selling point. Thanks!

Chad
 
For me it was the quality of images more than the flexibility. The SD9 just can't be beat in terms of RAW (pun intended) image quality. I like the fact that it doesn't anti-alias the images. I can always do that later if I want to. But the images are so crisp and sharp I just couldn't go with the blurry Canon.
Chadmaniaus said:
Hi! I'm fairly new to the DSLR world, but have been doing lots of
homework the past week. I'm on the fence between the SD9 or the
Canon 10D. I've read a lot of the forum postings, reviews and
spent about 15min on the phone earlier with Sigma. Just thought
I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and
what was the final selling point. Thanks!

Chad
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It comes down to resolution/sharpness of the SD9 vs. low light capabilities of the 10D. Imho you can ignore other things like batteries (SD9) or focus problems (10D).
Chadmaniaus said:
Hi! I'm fairly new to the DSLR world, but have been doing lots of
homework the past week. I'm on the fence between the SD9 or the
Canon 10D. I've read a lot of the forum postings, reviews and
spent about 15min on the phone earlier with Sigma. Just thought
I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and
what was the final selling point. Thanks!

Chad
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Chadmaniaus said:
Hi! I'm fairly new to the DSLR world, but have been doing lots of
homework the past week. I'm on the fence between the SD9 or the
Canon 10D. I've read a lot of the forum postings, reviews and
spent about 15min on the phone earlier with Sigma. Just thought
I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and
what was the final selling point. Thanks!
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I just recently went through the same process, deciding between the SD9, 10D, and S2. I ended up choosing the SD9 as I mostly like landscape photography, and was fine with the ISO abilities of the camera. I might also want to get into some studio photography someday, and the SD9 seems great for that as well.

For me the sharpness of the image on the SD9 was great, but also I love the controls on the camera and the software (PhotoPro) that you use to manipulate the images once they leave the camera, really the whole workflow process of the SD9 I found appealing. If I were you I would find some X3F files (SD9 raw images) and download the PhotoPro software from Sigma's web site to make sure you are happy with the process as well, since it's an integral part of owning the camera in a way that I think is not so true of the other digital SLR's. Trying out the software is what made up my mind.

The lens issue (SA mount) didn't bother me, because with the cost difference of lenses I would have been buying Sigma lenses anyway!

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---> Kendall
 
Thanks to those of you that responded! I'm now a proud SD9 owner!

Chad
Chadmaniaus said:
Hi! I'm fairly new to the DSLR world, but have been doing lots of
homework the past week. I'm on the fence between the SD9 or the
Canon 10D. I've read a lot of the forum postings, reviews and
spent about 15min on the phone earlier with Sigma. Just thought
I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and
what was the final selling point. Thanks!

Chad
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I just received my SD9 with a couple of lenses 24-70 & 70-300, I am astounded of how sharp the images are and how much quality there is.
Julio
Chadmaniaus said:
Chad
Chadmaniaus said:
Hi! I'm fairly new to the DSLR world, but have been doing lots of
homework the past week. I'm on the fence between the SD9 or the
Canon 10D. I've read a lot of the forum postings, reviews and
spent about 15min on the phone earlier with Sigma. Just thought
I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and
what was the final selling point. Thanks!

Chad
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Wow! You really were ready! Welcome to the Rezolution. Although you've ordered your SD9 already, let me add my comments. I bought it for the sharpness of the Foveon-produced images, and afterward I have come to appreciate all of the other benefits of the SD9/SPP workflow.

--> Lawrence N.
 
 
Chadmaniaus said:
Just thought
I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and
what was the final selling point. Thanks!
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I chose the 10D. Actually, I eliminated the SD9 and waited.. then the 10D was born.

If you ask this question here you'll get a majority of "SD9!" posts; ask it just about anywhere else and you'll probably get more 10D recommendations.

Final selling points? Just about everything..
  • Canon reputation
  • good battery system; scrath that.. EXCELLENT battery system
  • huge lens lineup; lens value (the expense is a negative though!)
  • low light capability
  • same resolution (luminance) as SD9
  • in-camera JPEG/RAW selectable
  • incredibly low noise
  • great focus system
  • price!!
It may be different for you.. if you want great THREE Mp images at the expense of the SD9 quirks (RAW only, dual battery system, noise, poor sensitivity, clipping, etc.), then the SD9 may be just the camera for you.

I could go on and on.. furthermore, I could list ALL of the things I perceived as negative about the SD9; however, they've all been hashed out and this forum won't hear it anyway.

Good luck in your decision.

--Steve
 
You forgot to add blurry images to your list.
Stephen Waits said:
Chadmaniaus said:
Just thought
I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and
what was the final selling point. Thanks!
Click to expand...
I chose the 10D. Actually, I eliminated the SD9 and waited.. then
the 10D was born.

If you ask this question here you'll get a majority of "SD9!"
posts; ask it just about anywhere else and you'll probably get more
10D recommendations.

Final selling points? Just about everything..
  • Canon reputation
  • good battery system; scrath that.. EXCELLENT battery system
  • huge lens lineup; lens value (the expense is a negative though!)
  • low light capability
  • same resolution (luminance) as SD9
  • in-camera JPEG/RAW selectable
  • incredibly low noise
  • great focus system
  • price!!
It may be different for you.. if you want great THREE Mp images at
the expense of the SD9 quirks (RAW only, dual battery system,
noise, poor sensitivity, clipping, etc.), then the SD9 may be just
the camera for you.

I could go on and on.. furthermore, I could list ALL of the things
I perceived as negative about the SD9; however, they've all been
hashed out and this forum won't hear it anyway.

Good luck in your decision.

--Steve
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I will be graduating to a DSLR soon and this thread answers a lot of questions for me. Admittedly, I am still very much a n00b but I am learning a lot from all of you. I really appreciate all you opinions and points of view. The gleam in the little guy’s eye says quite a bit. Thanks again!

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Hector
Canon G2
Do or do not, their is no try.
 
Another thing that you forgot on your list - probably because you havent had a chance to try it - is the software. Made by Foveon - it is far superior to anything offered by Canon or anyone else . This is actually mentioned in most reviews . It is also the thing that really seperates this cam fron all the other Bear cams. All DSLRs must use a software - it is what seprates high qulity scanners as well. And with a fairly new computer the SD9 software offers a great, fast, highly controlabe workflow that negates most of the needs for JPEGS and reveals the true beauty of RAW. The other issue in the list was low noise which is not always such a great or a very natural thing if it means that the cam/software are strategicaly blurring away you pic - thats not RAW !

Look, you or almost anybody else will be VERY happy with either. Both are great stuff, Compared to what was available 2 years ago for over twice the price - either will amaze you . It probably comes down in the end more to taste. All the other differances can be fairly easily worked out. The SD9 pics clearly just have a differant look than all the other digicams and I think the pics on Laurences site show this quite well. So in the end it is maybe more like choosing a differant kind of film than a differant kind of camera. For me it seems to be a less saturated more almost earthy kind of tonality. BiLLS
 
Steve: You make good points. It is not that we won't hear it. No one disagrees with your analysis about Canon strengths. They may argue about your analysis of some of the Sigma weaknesses.

You have to understand that our prorities are different from yours. When you come over and preach Canon, it is like a vegetarian going into the Lion's den and telling him how bad it is to eat meat (except the lion has the claws in this case). Get the lion angry and he will eat you!

Hope you are enjoying your Canon!

Rick
Stephen Waits said:
Chadmaniaus said:
Just thought
I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and
what was the final selling point. Thanks!
Click to expand...
I chose the 10D. Actually, I eliminated the SD9 and waited.. then
the 10D was born.

If you ask this question here you'll get a majority of "SD9!"
posts; ask it just about anywhere else and you'll probably get more
10D recommendations.

Final selling points? Just about everything..
  • Canon reputation
  • good battery system; scrath that.. EXCELLENT battery system
  • huge lens lineup; lens value (the expense is a negative though!)
  • low light capability
  • same resolution (luminance) as SD9
  • in-camera JPEG/RAW selectable
  • incredibly low noise
  • great focus system
  • price!!
It may be different for you.. if you want great THREE Mp images at
the expense of the SD9 quirks (RAW only, dual battery system,
noise, poor sensitivity, clipping, etc.), then the SD9 may be just
the camera for you.

I could go on and on.. furthermore, I could list ALL of the things
I perceived as negative about the SD9; however, they've all been
hashed out and this forum won't hear it anyway.

Good luck in your decision.

--Steve
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.......Feel The Power.........Sigma.....SD9..........

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http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/user_home
 
Hi,

i have to disagree with you on 4 items: low noise, focus speed, low light capability and price. please see pop photography june issue. just my 10cents opinion.

pete
Stephen Waits said:
Chadmaniaus said:
Just thought
I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and
what was the final selling point. Thanks!
Click to expand...
I chose the 10D. Actually, I eliminated the SD9 and waited.. then
the 10D was born.

If you ask this question here you'll get a majority of "SD9!"
posts; ask it just about anywhere else and you'll probably get more
10D recommendations.

Final selling points? Just about everything..
  • Canon reputation
  • good battery system; scrath that.. EXCELLENT battery system
  • huge lens lineup; lens value (the expense is a negative though!)
  • low light capability
  • same resolution (luminance) as SD9
  • in-camera JPEG/RAW selectable
  • incredibly low noise
  • great focus system
  • price!!
It may be different for you.. if you want great THREE Mp images at
the expense of the SD9 quirks (RAW only, dual battery system,
noise, poor sensitivity, clipping, etc.), then the SD9 may be just
the camera for you.

I could go on and on.. furthermore, I could list ALL of the things
I perceived as negative about the SD9; however, they've all been
hashed out and this forum won't hear it anyway.

Good luck in your decision.

--Steve
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Easy Rick, i'm a vegetarian..... and a proud Sigma owner :)
rick decker said:
You have to understand that our prorities are different from yours.
When you come over and preach Canon, it is like a vegetarian going
into the Lion's den and telling him how bad it is to eat meat
(except the lion has the claws in this case). Get the lion angry
and he will eat you!

Hope you are enjoying your Canon!

Rick
Stephen Waits said:
Chadmaniaus said:
Just thought
I'd see if anyone recently went through this process as well and
what was the final selling point. Thanks!
Click to expand...
I chose the 10D. Actually, I eliminated the SD9 and waited.. then
the 10D was born.

If you ask this question here you'll get a majority of "SD9!"
posts; ask it just about anywhere else and you'll probably get more
10D recommendations.

Final selling points? Just about everything..
  • Canon reputation
  • good battery system; scrath that.. EXCELLENT battery system
  • huge lens lineup; lens value (the expense is a negative though!)
  • low light capability
  • same resolution (luminance) as SD9
  • in-camera JPEG/RAW selectable
  • incredibly low noise
  • great focus system
  • price!!
It may be different for you.. if you want great THREE Mp images at
the expense of the SD9 quirks (RAW only, dual battery system,
noise, poor sensitivity, clipping, etc.), then the SD9 may be just
the camera for you.

I could go on and on.. furthermore, I could list ALL of the things
I perceived as negative about the SD9; however, they've all been
hashed out and this forum won't hear it anyway.

Good luck in your decision.

--Steve
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.......Feel The Power.........Sigma.....SD9..........

http://www.lightreflection.com
http://www.silveroaksranch.com
http://www.pbase.com/rickdecker
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/user_home
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whiteOrangedesign said:
I like the fact that it doesn't anti-alias the images. I
can always do that later if I want to.
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No, you can't. It's basic signal processing. Once you've got aliasing, you can't tell the difference between it and real detail so you can't remove it.

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