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Just picked up my S9000 this week and took some shots while I was away in Niagara. Maybe it's me, but the images seem a little on the soft side, even at relatively high shutter speeds. Contrast seems a little low - even colorful images seem a bit muddy. I am wondering if I picked up a dud, or if others are experiencing this.

One thing I noticed is at 300mm, you want a very faster shutterspeed - faster than I would normally expect.

I normally shoot with a D70 - the S9000 would be my back up and "vacation" camera.

Maybe I am being too picky?
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Jim Babbage
 
Look at other threads, my advice is get your money back and purchase a fuji s602
 
Dash29 said:
Look at other threads, my advice is get your money back and
purchase a fuji s602
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My advice is, check if you have the "Chrome"option on and the sharpening at normal or hard. I haven't jumped on to the S9500 bandwagon because it's price is closer to a DSLR price. If you decide to take your money back I would say take your money and buy a DSLR, you can get a very light and compact (I would say even lighter than the S9500)Pentax DL with a 28-300 Sigma lens lens that won't disappoint you for what you want and has better ISO performance and also wider ISO range. Unless you really need your movie modes, there's no reason why you should go DSLR for the money.

Regards,

Provia_fan
 
Provia_fan said:
Dash29 said:
Look at other threads, my advice is get your money back and
purchase a fuji s602
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My advice is, check if you have the "Chrome"option on and the
sharpening at normal or hard. I haven't jumped on to the S9500
bandwagon because it's price is closer to a DSLR price. If you
decide to take your money back I would say take your money and buy
a DSLR, you can get a very light and compact (I would say even
lighter than the S9500)Pentax DL with a 28-300 Sigma lens lens that
won't disappoint you for what you want and has better ISO
performance and also wider ISO range. Unless you really need your
movie modes, there's no reason why you should go DSLR for the money.

Regards,

Provia_fan
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hay provia fan you just did it again
your reply was ok apart from that go buy a dslr part
this is what that other thread was about
 
jbabbage said:
Just picked up my S9000 this week and took some shots while I was
away in Niagara. Maybe it's me, but the images seem a little on the
soft side, even at relatively high shutter speeds. Contrast seems a
little low - even colorful images seem a bit muddy. I am wondering
if I picked up a dud, or if others are experiencing this.

One thing I noticed is at 300mm, you want a very faster
shutterspeed - faster than I would normally expect.

I normally shoot with a D70 - the S9000 would be my back up and
"vacation" camera.

Maybe I am being too picky?
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Jim Babbage
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hi jim
i found the same

try setting the in cam contrast up to hard and take a few shots to see if that helps any

it seems that fuji did read this forum after all as with the s7k there were complaints about the s7k being toooo over sharp and too much contrast
now the s9k is too soft

complaints about the s7k having too much noise now the s9k has tooo much in cam noise reduction
at least they got the af asist light this time
and the zoom
and the feel is much better
maybe they will get it right for the s11000
 
Hey Jim (jbabbage,)

Other early s9k owners have voiced similar concerns but, I believe there have been some in-camera set-ups and post-processing compensation that handle softness. However, others have voices concern on early production (optics) quality. Hope you get more feedback from this FTF before you conclude that you may have a lemon.

In the matter of requiring higher shutter speeds at 300mm, the old rule-of-thumb: minimum shutter speed must be 1/300sec. Anything slower, you best diverts to a tripod or other support. However, the s9k has a excellent IQ at ISO400 so, in my case, I would not hesitate of using it more often than not.

BTW: I agree with steveS7: This is NOT the forum to blatantly promote dSLRs whenever somebody raises a concern on their P&S and/or Prosumer.

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johnimage
 
I'd be buying for the fast X-synch speed and EVF .

But if the color wasn't good - good by money - I'd buy another S20.

I'll have to buy an S9000 just to test it. For me Fuji has made me so much money it would take allot for me to get angry - certianly not over a thousand bucks.

I will try to support Fuji.

As silly as it seems - one of the best lens I've ever used for portraits is the S20 stuff. The x-synch speed is so nice.

Although - I am shooting in near perfect available light everyday - in Hawaii.

I love Fuji film to - film is not dead totally.
 
Dash29 said:
Look at other threads, my advice is get your money back and
purchase a fuji s602
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Smart advice ;¬)

Go to dcresource.com, download samples made with the s9000 and samples done many years ago wih the s602, and tell me if you think there is real improvement.

Just my 2 cents; I still have to get my hand on an s9000 and comparison shoot with my s602.
 
Well, I'd love some kind of plugin other than this silly Picture Viewer Raw converter.

I'll post a couple test shots to my seb space and if you send me an email, I'll forward you the link

[email protected]
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Jim Babbage
 
Thanks and yes, I am well aware of the shutter speed/focal length rule. I teach it to my photography students all the time. I'm going to try adjusting the sharpness. I have already switched to the Chrome setting, but maybe the two will do the job.
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Jim Babbage
 
Well I set the sharpness to Hard and there is a noticeable difference in RAW - almost TOO much sharpness, especially around areas of a photo that have text. It's like that milky cloud is completely gone.

Comparing the same image as a FINE jpeg - one set to standard and the other set to Hard sharpness again - HUGE difference. Again, almost too much in a way, but at leat there is a noticeable improvement.

More testing now. I have to do this while I still have time to return it!
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Jim Babbage
 
I've not seen so much rubbish in a thread for a while.

First of all. The S602. I have one. It's rubbish next to the S9500. Total rubbish actually. It has poor resolution, takes a while to turn on, has slower autofocus etc.

I've posted some shots taken with normal setting and given default sharpeing on ACDsee before printing. They are slide-film print quality in my opinion. I'm a chap who does a lot of photography, scans 35mm and MF and has strong opinions on quality. Apart from a little purple fringing here and there, the quality is expemplary. Better than my Olympus E1. 1600 asa is lousy but what do you expect.

I've done some test stuff on it.

http://www.pbase.com/gearoidmuar/fuji_s9500s9000_test

The picture of my daughter, Lizzie Lee is at 400 asa, no noise Ninja or anything take in lousy kitchen light, sharpened as described above.
 
All right I have done some quick testing and have uploaded some cropped samples.

http://www.nms123.ca/jim_babbage/fuji_test/

I have the original jpegs, RAW files and converted TIFFS if anyone is interested. Be advised though that the converted TIFFS are 50MB each. There does not seem to be any way to control file conversion - or any other raw elements - in Fuji's Picture Viewer, and Photoshop CS doesn't read Fuji's RAW format.
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Jim Babbage
 
jbabbage said:
Thanks, however I already own the 602Z This was to be my "leg-up"
camera.
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In that case Jim I suggest you take a serious look at the Sony R1, as I am doing now. dcresource.com (Jeff Keller) has a series of preview shots he has taken with the s9000 and the R1 within seconds of each other, at the same time, locations angle of view, and almost the same focal length. The difference is remarkable.

And as we all know, Jeff is not one to cuddle cameras to get the most of of them, and is a good tester for real life, every day picture taking. Imagine what could be done in expert hands!

If it had a movie mode and a 4x3 image format option I'd get one today without waiting for reviews.
 
Well Jim ive seen the pictures does this mean that your s9500 is going back because their all blurred
 
This wa a quick test, shot at a sligt angle, wide open (f3.5) at about 50mm focal length. The "More at Your Finger Tips text is the sharp, falls off at the bottom especially due to the angle of the shot. I am going to do a more sceientif test later today with a tripod and see what the results are.
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Jim Babbage
 
jbabbage said:
Well I set the sharpness to Hard and there is a noticeable
difference in RAW - almost TOO much sharpness, especially around
areas of a photo that have text. It's like that milky cloud is
completely gone.

Comparing the same image as a FINE jpeg - one set to standard and
the other set to Hard sharpness again - HUGE difference. Again,
almost too much in a way, but at leat there is a noticeable
improvement.

More testing now. I have to do this while I still have time to
return it!
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Jim Babbage
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hi

also can you do some test shots with the contrast set to hard just to compare with hard sharp
that would be great
thanks
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no i am not going to buy a dslr
 
Hmm I guess I missed that setting but I do not see one for contrast. I guess I need to take another look at the manual. All the shots on that page are set to Chrome, FYI
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Jim Babbage
 
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