ON1 JPEG export is so slooooooow

[CybrSlydr]

I just finished shooting a marathon and took about 5k photos. In the end, I picked the ones I liked that weren't specific people (groups) and then just applied the Brilliant AI and NoNoise AI to all the rest of the pics of individuals so they can pick which ones they like. Of course, this means I've got over 1700 pics to export as JPEGs from compressed RAW (Sony A1).

Is the ON1 AI processing really this ridiculously slow?? I have a 7800X3D, 64GB RAM, and a 4080 16GB and it's taken 17 minutes to export 24 photos.

Is this performance what most folks are seeing?

I went with ON1 just because screw Adobe and subscriptions and I do like the way the photos look with their Brilliant AI and NoNoise applied, but if it's going to take this long to export JPEGs, I might have to go back to CaptureOne or something.



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[ishwanu]

I just finished shooting a marathon and took about 5k photos. In the end, I picked the ones I liked that weren't specific people (groups) and then just applied the Brilliant AI and NoNoise AI to all the rest of the pics of individuals so they can pick which ones they like. Of course, this means I've got over 1700 pics to export as JPEGs from compressed RAW (Sony A1).

I'll first say that I have never processed in anywhere near such volume. I might occasionally have about 1/10 that number to process as a group. I also would never apply Brilliance AI to a whole batch - it's too unpredictable.

Is the ON1 AI processing really this ridiculously slow?? I have a 7800X3D, 64GB RAM, and a 4080 16GB and it's taken 17 minutes to export 24 photos.

Because this aroused my curiosity, I downloaded 24 different A1 files from DPR's samples. They're 50-60MB each, so obviously compressed. My little Win10 system is a Ryzen 3 3200G with 16GB and a low end GPU with 4GB VRAM. The OS and software are on SSD, but the image files are read from and written to an internal HDD. Processed with Brilliance AI and NoNoise AI, those 24 files were finished in ... wait for it ... just under 17 minutes.

Is this performance what most folks are seeing?

It's what I'm seeing. But why your system isn't blasting through it much faster, I don't know.

 

[Adam2]

Another reason to love On1 PR. Yes, it is slower than molasses in the arctic for exports and I highly advise doing it in the background lest one freeze the whole program.

 

[CybrSlydr]

Another reason to love On1 PR. Yes, it is slower than molasses in the arctic for exports and I highly advise doing it in the background lest one freeze the whole program.

I ended up doing it overnight. Just woke up, so I'll see if it kept going or if my computer decided to go i to hibernation after 45 pics. Lol

 

[CybrSlydr]

I just finished shooting a marathon and took about 5k photos. In the end, I picked the ones I liked that weren't specific people (groups) and then just applied the Brilliant AI and NoNoise AI to all the rest of the pics of individuals so they can pick which ones they like. Of course, this means I've got over 1700 pics to export as JPEGs from compressed RAW (Sony A1).

I'll first say that I have never processed in anywhere near such volume. I might occasionally have about 1/10 that number to process as a group. I also would never apply Brilliance AI to a whole batch - it's too unpredictable.

Is the ON1 AI processing really this ridiculously slow?? I have a 7800X3D, 64GB RAM, and a 4080 16GB and it's taken 17 minutes to export 24 photos.

Because this aroused my curiosity, I downloaded 24 different A1 files from DPR's samples. They're 50-60MB each, so obviously compressed. My little Win10 system is a Ryzen 3 3200G with 16GB and a low end GPU with 4GB VRAM. The OS and software are on SSD, but the image files are read from and written to an internal HDD. Processed with Brilliance AI and NoNoise AI, those 24 files were finished in ... wait for it ... just under 17 minutes.

Is this performance what most folks are seeing?

It's what I'm seeing. But why your system isn't blasting through it much faster, I don't know.

Normally I'd agree with the Brilliant AI being too unpredictable, but I toned it back to 35 rather than 100% as the 100% was making things a bit too hot IMHO. I did review the pics after the editing had been performed, so I was OK with how it made the pics look.

Now I get to see if I can get the next batch started and exporting while Im at work. Lol

 

[CybrSlydr]

Appears that larger batches of exports like I was trying also slow it down. Woke up this morning and found the program either crashed or didn't want to do all 1700 pics and there were still 268 left to export. I selected all of them and it's going through those 268 significantly quicker than when I had the 1700 selected. It's up to 175 in 27min now.

 

[s_grins]

I have no idea what is wrong with your copy of ON1 PhotoRaw. I'd recommend to check up development setup and files selection for development. I have a bad premonition that program has has to search and pick up files for development from the whole amount of files on your HD.

Try to develop a single file right from editing state - it should take 15-20 sec.

Also, it was interesting for me to analyze your photo.

I think, having ISO=160 you do not need noise reduction. Secondly, I rearly use this brilliant AI. Instead, I would apply 2 filters from "effects" module - one is "dynamic contrast" and second is "HDR look".

And, of course, I was curious to notice that your photo came out without definition of camera make and model, exactly like my photos, that makes me feel "better"

Regards

S.

 

[GammyKnee]

I think, having ISO=160 you do not need noise reduction. Secondly, I rearly use this brilliant AI. Instead, I would apply 2 filters from "effects" module - one is "dynamic contrast" and second is "HDR look".

Regardless of whether the OP has somehting else going on, this has got to help! I use NoNoise very sparingly - pretty much only for seriously high ISO photos. Anytime I have used it, I've seen the export progress dialog stick for quite some time on thoses specific files. Like you, I'd expect NoNoise to be unnecessary for a low ISO file, unless it needed a really big exposure push.

I don't think AI brilliance causes much of a slow down for me. There have been a few occasions when I've used it - very dialled back(!!) - for a series of photos that have much the same content, lighting etc. and I don't recall seeing that big export hang.

And, of course, I was curious to notice that your photo came out without definition of camera make and model, exactly like my photos, that makes me feel "better"

Regards

S.

If you use the full export dialog rather than one of the shortcuts, you get to choose what metadata is included/omitted, and then of course you can save your own presets. I don't recall what the default, starter presets had selected, but maybe they have the camera info turned off? Check it out and maybe you can get that stuff coming through to the exported images.

One more thing for the OP that might be worth trying: consider whitelisting your output folder and indeed ON1 PR itself in whatever antivirus protection you're using. In the past I have seen AV suites impeding image/video production; some of these things are far more invasive than they need to be.

 

[ishwanu]

And, of course, I was curious to notice that your photo came out without definition of camera make and model, exactly like my photos, that makes me feel "better"

If you use the full export dialog rather than one of the shortcuts, you get to choose what metadata is included/omitted, and then of course you can save your own presets. I don't recall what the default, starter presets had selected, but maybe they have the camera info turned off? Check it out and maybe you can get that stuff coming through to the exported images.

That is a known issue with at least some exports from Photo RAW, even when all metadata is designated for inclusion. It apparently fails to include a key metadata tag that some software (like DPR's software) expects to see, while other software has no trouble showing the make and model for the same file.

 

[GammyKnee]

That is a known issue with at least some exports from Photo RAW, even when all metadata is designated for inclusion. It apparently fails to include a key metadata tag that some software (like DPR's software) expects to see, while other software has no trouble showing the make and model for the same file.

So it is indeed a bug. Hadn't read about that one - thanks for the heads up.

 

[s_grins]

Well,

this time I'll be straight forward and to the point.

When I want to do batch process/develop files from a particular folder, I mark photos that I want to process with "like' icon (heart shape). during editing

After that, I go to "browse" window and set a filter for this particular folder that selects all files marked with "heart" and hides all others

Next step: I click and select one file which is marked, and with CTRL+A and select all designated for processing. Now I know that only selected files will be processed.

I do not pretend that the way I do batch processing is the only one, or the best one.

I have no clue how OP is going batch processing, but I have a strong premonition/suspicion that in his case ON1 has to pick up hundreds of files from thousands in the folder, otherwise I am a clueless.

All other stuff from my first post deemed irrelevant to OP

 

[CybrSlydr]

Well,

this time I'll be straight forward and to the point.

When I want to do batch process/develop files from a particular folder, I mark photos that I want to process with "like' icon (heart shape). during editing

After that, I go to "browse" window and set a filter for this particular folder that selects all files marked with "heart" and hides all others

Next step: I click and select one file which is marked, and with CTRL+A and select all designated for processing. Now I know that only selected files will be processed.

I do not pretend that the way I do batch processing is the only one, or the best one.

I have no clue how OP is going batch processing, but I have a strong premonition/suspicion that in his case ON1 has to pick up hundreds of files from thousands in the folder, otherwise I am a clueless.

All other stuff from my first post deemed irrelevant to OP

 

[s_grins]

Well,

this time I'll be straight forward and to the point.

When I want to do batch process/develop files from a particular folder, I mark photos that I want to process with "like' icon (heart shape). during editing

After that, I go to "browse" window and set a filter for this particular folder that selects all files marked with "heart" and hides all others

Next step: I click and select one file which is marked, and with CTRL+A and select all designated for processing. Now I know that only selected files will be processed.

I do not pretend that the way I do batch processing is the only one, or the best one.

I have no clue how OP is going batch processing, but I have a strong premonition/suspicion that in his case ON1 has to pick up hundreds of files from thousands in the folder, otherwise I am a clueless.

All other stuff from my first post deemed irrelevant to OP

Your method mirrors my own.

I choose all the pics with GREEN rather than the like icon. Then I also go to browse, select by attribute, which is the GREEN color. Then I CTRL-A all the the attributed photos and then export them.

The program is installed on and photos are all on the same NVME drive, but Windows is on a different physical drove.

If your different drive is external, it is possible that you have a problem.

Try this: Temporary move the working folder on drive C. Process your files, and move the folder back.

Side note: I have my folders on internal PCIe connected SSD drive D, and I do not have delays like yours.

And again, to find out a culprit, as a first step, start with a single file stored on your C drive.

Regards

S.

 

[s_grins]

Well,

this time I'll be straight forward and to the point.

When I want to do batch process/develop files from a particular folder, I mark photos that I want to process with "like' icon (heart shape). during editing

After that, I go to "browse" window and set a filter for this particular folder that selects all files marked with "heart" and hides all others

Next step: I click and select one file which is marked, and with CTRL+A and select all designated for processing. Now I know that only selected files will be processed.

I do not pretend that the way I do batch processing is the only one, or the best one.

I have no clue how OP is going batch processing, but I have a strong premonition/suspicion that in his case ON1 has to pick up hundreds of files from thousands in the folder, otherwise I am a clueless.

All other stuff from my first post deemed irrelevant to OP

Your method mirrors my own.

I choose all the pics with GREEN rather than the like icon. Then I also go to browse, select by attribute, which is the GREEN color. Then I CTRL-A all the the attributed photos and then export them.

The program is installed on and photos are all on the same NVME drive, but Windows is on a different physical drove.

Wait a second, is it possible to install program on drive different than C drive? I have no idea how the whole program works when installed on the drive without Windows.

 

[TorsteinH]

Well,

this time I'll be straight forward and to the point.

When I want to do batch process/develop files from a particular folder, I mark photos that I want to process with "like' icon (heart shape). during editing

After that, I go to "browse" window and set a filter for this particular folder that selects all files marked with "heart" and hides all others

Next step: I click and select one file which is marked, and with CTRL+A and select all designated for processing. Now I know that only selected files will be processed.

I do not pretend that the way I do batch processing is the only one, or the best one.

I have no clue how OP is going batch processing, but I have a strong premonition/suspicion that in his case ON1 has to pick up hundreds of files from thousands in the folder, otherwise I am a clueless.

All other stuff from my first post deemed irrelevant to OP

Your method mirrors my own.

I choose all the pics with GREEN rather than the like icon. Then I also go to browse, select by attribute, which is the GREEN color. Then I CTRL-A all the the attributed photos and then export them.

The program is installed on and photos are all on the same NVME drive, but Windows is on a different physical drove.

Wait a second, is it possible to install program on drive different than C drive? I have no idea how the whole program works when installed on the drive without Windows.

 

[CybrSlydr]

Well,

this time I'll be straight forward and to the point.

When I want to do batch process/develop files from a particular folder, I mark photos that I want to process with "like' icon (heart shape). during editing

After that, I go to "browse" window and set a filter for this particular folder that selects all files marked with "heart" and hides all others

Next step: I click and select one file which is marked, and with CTRL+A and select all designated for processing. Now I know that only selected files will be processed.

I do not pretend that the way I do batch processing is the only one, or the best one.

I have no clue how OP is going batch processing, but I have a strong premonition/suspicion that in his case ON1 has to pick up hundreds of files from thousands in the folder, otherwise I am a clueless.

All other stuff from my first post deemed irrelevant to OP

Your method mirrors my own.

I choose all the pics with GREEN rather than the like icon. Then I also go to browse, select by attribute, which is the GREEN color. Then I CTRL-A all the the attributed photos and then export them.

The program is installed on and photos are all on the same NVME drive, but Windows is on a different physical drove.

If your different drive is external, it is possible that you have a problem.

Try this: Temporary move the working folder on drive C. Process your files, and move the folder back.

Side note: I have my folders on internal PCIe connected SSD drive D, and I do not have delays like yours.

And again, to find out a culprit, as a first step, start with a single file stored on your C drive.

Regards

S.

Well, oddly enough, I just re-installed Windows 11 last night. It's on a 512GB NVME drive on my motherboard, while I installed On1 to a 1TB NVME drive also on my motherboard. I re-installed Windows because my C: drive (512GB) was full to the brim, though I have no idea why. This happened after I processed the photos.

So I reinstalled Windows and my C: drive is 100% full again - after running the photo exports, even though all the original photos, all the exported photos, and ON1 are all installed on a different physical drive.

No clue why this is happening - I had less than 100GB installed on that drive only to find it completely full this morning.

 

[ishwanu]

I re-installed Windows because my C: drive (512GB) was full to the brim, though I have no idea why. This happened after I processed the photos.

So I reinstalled Windows and my C: drive is 100% full again - after running the photo exports, even though all the original photos, all the exported photos, and ON1 are all installed on a different physical drive.

No clue why this is happening - I had less than 100GB installed on that drive only to find it completely full this morning.

This is another fun aspect of Photo RAW: lots of stuff accumulates in various databases. Try looking here ...

%userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\ON1\ON1 Photo RAW 2025/PhotoSettingsCache

... and see how much space the folder is taking up. Once you're done processing, you don't really need that stuff anymore and you can delete the contents of the folder. They will be rebuilt again as necessary, and you can then delete them again. Do it while the app is closed.

I don't know if that's the only thing happening on your system, but it's probably one thing that's happening.

If you use cataloged folders, keywords, custom metadata, etc., there will also be disk space taken up for that stuff, somewhere else.

 

[s_grins]

I have my PC hardware configured similar to yours: 512 Gb NVMe drive C (W 11) and another 4 Tb NVMe drive D for data ( documents, photos, so on). All programs (ON1, SilkyPix, Affinity, NX studio, and many more) have been installed on drive C, with WIN 11, and drive is 40% filled up only.

I have never installed software separately from windows, and have no knowledge what is going on on your machine. One thing I guess I know - software engeneers intended the software to be installed on drive C.

Well, I could be wrong again.

Regards

S.

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[IanYorke]

I just finished shooting a marathon and took about 5k photos. In the end, I picked the ones I liked that weren't specific people (groups) and then just applied the Brilliant AI and NoNoise AI to all the rest of the pics of individuals so they can pick which ones they like. Of course, this means I've got over 1700 pics to export as JPEGs from compressed RAW (Sony A1).

Is the ON1 AI processing really this ridiculously slow?? I have a 7800X3D, 64GB RAM, and a 4080 16GB and it's taken 17 minutes to export 24 photos.

Is this performance what most folks are seeing?

I went with ON1 just because screw Adobe and subscriptions and I do like the way the photos look with their Brilliant AI and NoNoise applied, but if it's going to take this long to export JPEGs, I might have to go back to CaptureOne or something.

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You can tune Brilliance AI to suite your tastes in the Preferences panel.I used a wide variety of test images and played with the various settings until i had a result that suited me.







You can also set an ISO Limit as to when NoNoise is applied, you don't want it applied to low ISO images.

I downloaded a few Sony A1 images and processed them. I selected all images in Browse and applied Brilliance AI and NoNoise. I then exported full size jpg's.

System AMD3950X (in ECO mode which limits performance)

Nvidia 2700 (latest Studio Drivers)

SSD's

8 images = 14s/image

64 images = 14s/image

So it appeared to scale and 14s for raw conversion and noise reduction doesn't seem too bad.

I normally use Capture One but if you need Noise reduction C1 is pathetic compared to DXO and even ON1.

I am not sure why your system is so slow and, as always, my first suggestion is, "have you set ON1 to use the GPU and are you using the latest Nvidia Studio drivers?"

Ian

 

[CybrSlydr]

I re-installed Windows because my C: drive (512GB) was full to the brim, though I have no idea why. This happened after I processed the photos.

So I reinstalled Windows and my C: drive is 100% full again - after running the photo exports, even though all the original photos, all the exported photos, and ON1 are all installed on a different physical drive.

No clue why this is happening - I had less than 100GB installed on that drive only to find it completely full this morning.

This is another fun aspect of Photo RAW: lots of stuff accumulates in various databases. Try looking here ...

%userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\ON1\ON1 Photo RAW 2025/PhotoSettingsCache

... and see how much space the folder is taking up. Once you're done processing, you don't really need that stuff anymore and you can delete the contents of the folder. They will be rebuilt again as necessary, and you can then delete them again. Do it while the app is closed.

I don't know if that's the only thing happening on your system, but it's probably one thing that's happening.

If you use cataloged folders, keywords, custom metadata, etc., there will also be disk space taken up for that stuff, somewhere else.

I think you're right - I'm exporting the next round of photos and that folder, with only 213 exported is already up to 55GB.

EDIT: Yeah, after 316 photos, that folder is nearly 90GB.