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[Wolfgang58427]

Z7 with FTZ and Sigma Art 135/1.8.

Works flawless...



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[tnj86]

Z7 with FTZ and Sigma Art 135/1.8.

Works flawless...

wolfgang

I hate adapters, but I think at some point in the next 2-3 years you will be able to get that beauty with a Z mount and that will be something to behold.

Enjoy!

 

[tnj86]

oh and we need pics.

 

[Serjojeee]

I was 100% sure that Nikon will have all the same problems with adapted lenses as Sony. It looks like I was wrong. Even Sigma dslr lenses are working good - that's some cool engineering from Nikon. Thumbs up for the team!

 

[Wolfgang58427]

I own a bunch of lenses for my D850, and every single tested today works exactly as on the 850. Perfect match.

Wolfgang

 

[goactive]

That is my plan for my Z6..

post some photos shot with it.

How much does it all weigh with the lens on it?

 

[StanyBuyle]

Congratulations!

Have fun.

Kindest regards,

Stany

 

[Serjojeee]

I own a bunch of lenses for my D850, and every single tested today works exactly as on the 850. Perfect match.

Wolfgang

Glad to hear that. Happy shooting!

 

[InfamousOne]

I was 100% sure that Nikon will have all the same problems with adapted lenses as Sony. It looks like I was wrong. Even Sigma dslr lenses are working good - that's some cool engineering from Nikon. Thumbs up for the team!

Sony’s first party adapters were goofy because you had the SLT prisim instead of a mirror and originally they had no PDAF sensors on the sensor. So a Sony NEX7 shooting with a-mount lenses had to have a wacky adapter.

Third party lenses to mirror less was never a ‘first party’ solution. Made to different specs, many generations, and different firmwares trying to handle all the edge cases. A plain nightmare.

Nikon’s FTZ is first party, not having to reverse engineer and then adapt to different communication protocols. Z-mount likely still talks like an F-mount lens just supports more pins (aka, more communication channels). It’s also Made in Japan and uses stainless steel mounts!

FTZ so far feels more solid than the same lens mounted on my D500. Absolutely no ‘slop’ in the Z mount side of the adapter and same on F-mount side. Every Nikon DSLR has always had a slight play in the mount, this doesn’t! It’s also solid, nothing feels ‘cheap’.

What Nikon also has over other adapters is even the older lenses that are Ai (MF) or AF motor driven (so MF on Z mount) is that they still meter and tell the body what they are. Focus peeking is great on the Z as it’s a ‘dual’ AF indicator...! Super fast to nail what you want with the older lenses, even the AF ones that have less throw to the MF ring. The dual indication is:

1. AF peeking, color selectable, 3 intensities to pick
2. PDAF point, it still lets you move the AF point where you want. It’ll still indicate when that is in focus by switching from red to green.

This is great as you can use the peeking to visualize the DoF and the point to indicate center of that DoF. Going forward I’ll likely shoot studio/fashion/portrait work in MF as I can get great control of DoF without really loosing much speed wise. Street photography is brilliant with this setup-allowing full control from EVF and quick from the hip with just peeking (not going to try and use the af point if hip shooting)

What I’ve realized with the Nikon Z7 is it’s not trying to emulate a DSLR. I’d hazard to say it’s a similar mindset to a cats eye Style SLR or a F4 with a cats eye focusing mirror. It’s cool, it’s diffrent, and I’m loving it’s perspective on photography. The growth of this platform will be awesome to watch!

 

[Serjojeee]

I was 100% sure that Nikon will have all the same problems with adapted lenses as Sony. It looks like I was wrong. Even Sigma dslr lenses are working good - that's some cool engineering from Nikon. Thumbs up for the team!

Sony’s first party adapters were goofy because you had the SLT prisim instead of a mirror and originally they had no PDAF sensors on the sensor.

From what I heard from users Minolta/Sony A mount lenses doesn't work reliably with any Sony adapters.

So a Sony NEX7 shooting with a-mount lenses had to have a wacky adapter.

Third party lenses to mirror less was never a ‘first party’ solution. Made to different specs, many generations, and different firmwares trying to handle all the edge cases. A plain nightmare.

Nikon’s FTZ is first party, not having to reverse engineer and then adapt to different communication protocols. Z-mount likely still talks like an F-mount lens just supports more pins (aka, more communication channels). It’s also Made in Japan and uses stainless steel mounts!

FTZ so far feels more solid than the same lens mounted on my D500. Absolutely no ‘slop’ in the Z mount side of the adapter and same on F-mount side. Every Nikon DSLR has always had a slight play in the mount, this doesn’t! It’s also solid, nothing feels ‘cheap’.

What Nikon also has over other adapters is even the older lenses that are Ai (MF) or AF motor driven (so MF on Z mount) is that they still meter and tell the body what they are. Focus peeking is great on the Z as it’s a ‘dual’ AF indicator...! Super fast to nail what you want with the older lenses, even the AF ones that have less throw to the MF ring. The dual indication is:

1. AF peeking, color selectable, 3 intensities to pick
2. PDAF point, it still lets you move the AF point where you want. It’ll still indicate when that is in focus by switching from red to green.

This is great as you can use the peeking to visualize the DoF and the point to indicate center of that DoF. Going forward I’ll likely shoot studio/fashion/portrait work in MF as I can get great control of DoF without really loosing much speed wise. Street photography is brilliant with this setup-allowing full control from EVF and quick from the hip with just peeking (not going to try and use the af point if hip shooting)

What I’ve realized with the Nikon Z7 is it’s not trying to emulate a DSLR. I’d hazard to say it’s a similar mindset to a cats eye Style SLR or a F4 with a cats eye focusing mirror. It’s cool, it’s diffrent, and I’m loving it’s perspective on photography. The growth of this platform will be awesome to watch!

That's what I think of it - MILC might be a totally new user experience and it's pros and cons are different to a DSLR. Either way it's the future. Focus peaking might actually bring new possibilities to portraits shooters. Cause you can know exactly how much you should stop the lens to bring both eyes in focus and focus somewhere between them. But for know I don't understand if it will be possible to work that what cause of all those focus peaking indication colors involved.

 

[TOF guy]

Have fun

 

[alekt449]

I was 100% sure that Nikon will have all the same problems with adapted lenses as Sony. It looks like I was wrong. Even Sigma dslr lenses are working good - that's some cool engineering from Nikon. Thumbs up for the team!

Sony’s first party adapters were goofy because you had the SLT prisim instead of a mirror and originally they had no PDAF sensors on the sensor. So a Sony NEX7 shooting with a-mount lenses had to have a wacky adapter.

Third party lenses to mirror less was never a ‘first party’ solution. Made to different specs, many generations, and different firmwares trying to handle all the edge cases. A plain nightmare.

Nikon’s FTZ is first party, not having to reverse engineer and then adapt to different communication protocols. Z-mount likely still talks like an F-mount lens just supports more pins (aka, more communication channels). It’s also Made in Japan and uses stainless steel mounts!

FTZ so far feels more solid than the same lens mounted on my D500. Absolutely no ‘slop’ in the Z mount side of the adapter and same on F-mount side. Every Nikon DSLR has always had a slight play in the mount, this doesn’t! It’s also solid, nothing feels ‘cheap’.

What Nikon also has over other adapters is even the older lenses that are Ai (MF) or AF motor driven (so MF on Z mount) is that they still meter and tell the body what they are. Focus peeking is great on the Z as it’s a ‘dual’ AF indicator...! Super fast to nail what you want with the older lenses, even the AF ones that have less throw to the MF ring. The dual indication is:

1. AF peeking, color selectable, 3 intensities to pick
2. PDAF point, it still lets you move the AF point where you want. It’ll still indicate when that is in focus by switching from red to green.

This is great as you can use the peeking to visualize the DoF and the point to indicate center of that DoF. Going forward I’ll likely shoot studio/fashion/portrait work in MF as I can get great control of DoF without really loosing much speed wise. Street photography is brilliant with this setup-allowing full control from EVF and quick from the hip with just peeking (not going to try and use the af point if hip shooting)

What I’ve realized with the Nikon Z7 is it’s not trying to emulate a DSLR. I’d hazard to say it’s a similar mindset to a cats eye Style SLR or a F4 with a cats eye focusing mirror. It’s cool, it’s diffrent, and I’m loving it’s perspective on photography. The growth of this platform will be awesome to watch!

‘dual’ AF indicator- Can you explain or show picture of this? Also can you nail the focus without the focus aids, I mean by only identifying the sharp edges in the high res viewfinder? I am also interested in focusing with mf lenses.

 

[InfamousOne]

I was 100% sure that Nikon will have all the same problems with adapted lenses as Sony. It looks like I was wrong. Even Sigma dslr lenses are working good - that's some cool engineering from Nikon. Thumbs up for the team!

Sony’s first party adapters were goofy because you had the SLT prisim instead of a mirror and originally they had no PDAF sensors on the sensor. So a Sony NEX7 shooting with a-mount lenses had to have a wacky adapter.

Third party lenses to mirror less was never a ‘first party’ solution. Made to different specs, many generations, and different firmwares trying to handle all the edge cases. A plain nightmare.

Nikon’s FTZ is first party, not having to reverse engineer and then adapt to different communication protocols. Z-mount likely still talks like an F-mount lens just supports more pins (aka, more communication channels). It’s also Made in Japan and uses stainless steel mounts!

FTZ so far feels more solid than the same lens mounted on my D500. Absolutely no ‘slop’ in the Z mount side of the adapter and same on F-mount side. Every Nikon DSLR has always had a slight play in the mount, this doesn’t! It’s also solid, nothing feels ‘cheap’.

What Nikon also has over other adapters is even the older lenses that are Ai (MF) or AF motor driven (so MF on Z mount) is that they still meter and tell the body what they are. Focus peeking is great on the Z as it’s a ‘dual’ AF indicator...! Super fast to nail what you want with the older lenses, even the AF ones that have less throw to the MF ring. The dual indication is:

1. AF peeking, color selectable, 3 intensities to pick
2. PDAF point, it still lets you move the AF point where you want. It’ll still indicate when that is in focus by switching from red to green.

This is great as you can use the peeking to visualize the DoF and the point to indicate center of that DoF. Going forward I’ll likely shoot studio/fashion/portrait work in MF as I can get great control of DoF without really loosing much speed wise. Street photography is brilliant with this setup-allowing full control from EVF and quick from the hip with just peeking (not going to try and use the af point if hip shooting)

What I’ve realized with the Nikon Z7 is it’s not trying to emulate a DSLR. I’d hazard to say it’s a similar mindset to a cats eye Style SLR or a F4 with a cats eye focusing mirror. It’s cool, it’s diffrent, and I’m loving it’s perspective on photography. The growth of this platform will be awesome to watch!

‘dual’ AF indicator- Can you explain or show picture of this? Also can you nail the focus without the focus aids, I mean by only identifying the sharp edges in the high res viewfinder? I am also interested in focusing with mf lenses.

At some point I’ll try n-log and I’ll get an image (just lazy to bust out the black magic 4K).

dual indicator is simple, it’s the two I listed off; the standard ‘square’ PDAF point that (Same used for AF), however now you can also use peeking! When you’re MF, the square/whatever AF mode you choose doesn’t go away, thus you have two methods of indication of focus.

Whats amazing is you now have both AF confirmation-nothing new here compared to a DSLR-along with depth of field visualization with peeking.

Its pretty cool, it’s a different method, diffrent muscle memory, diffrent brain/camera interaction. To me, I’m more connected, I also feel I have more certainty in what I take.

Is this method what I’ll use for photographing Flight Testing at work? Maybe. I’ll probably just use my D500 instead. Everything else? Likely the Z7. It’s not that the Z7 isn’t on par with a DSLR, it’s just a diffrent tool.

Nikon being Nikon, has always focused on the photographer and professional. It shows in this camera. It’s not a targeted DSLR killer; it’s not competing on specs, it’s not trying to beat some aspect of a DSLR. Instead, Nikon developed a camera that’s the answer to “What if we removed the mirror & OVF, how should that camera be used?”. I don’t doubt that at some point it may kill DSLR’s market, but it won’t be with the same interaction paradigm as a DSLR.

Armchair prediction: Sports, Action, Bird, Some wildlife photography will be replaced with ‘video’. Capture resolution will keep increasing 8K stills are quite printable from a RED...

Wait, that’s not a prediction. That’s what we already do at work... Just cost of a RED Weapon 8K needs to come down. I also know some sports guys and wilderness photographers that are also on RED. You can operate these cameras to take amazing still ‘frames’ that still have as much latitude as many raws... the video footage when shooting for this looks like for cinema. Dynamic ISO chosen in post is amazing