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http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100301nikonfirmware.asp

...wow, that's customer dedication.

Canon doesn't even manage to release a firmware update that allows assigning functions to the useless print button, although thousands of people have been asking for this for more than a year now... :-(

...not to mention of the many other things that could be enhanced with firmware upgrades. But that would require customer focus...
 
Paul5D said:
yea shame Canon can't match this :(
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What would Canon users want?

Some of my wishes are...
  • configurable print button
  • more configurable set button (ISO, like on the D30)
  • assignable (for example, to the print button) "lock feature" which
prevents accidental parameter changes
 
I agree that Canon is really looking like cheapskates at this point.

Not only are they falling very far behind Nikon on the feature set they provide, but the fact that they don't provide firmware updates when they can to help their existing customers is inexcusable. I've never really had a problem with the firmware, but I know lots of people have wanted updates for certain items and Canon just doesn't respond.

I think Canon should add wireless capability for file transmission and flash. They do provide great sensors, but the other surrounding features are really beginning to pale in light of what Nikon offers.

Nikon even provides full 3-digit GPS support. Canon can't even spell GPS.

If Canon can't give us firmware to reprogram the direct print button, I'd be satisfied to know that the engineer that developed it was fired. Not the best result, but I'll take it. :)

It's very clear, that if Nikon could produce a decent sensor, they'd mop the floor with Canon from a features standpoint.

I seriously think it's time that Canon users started requesting (demanding?) some features from Canon. We all pay premium prices, and Canon can deliver a lot more for the money than they are.
astefot said:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0610/06100301nikonfirmware.asp

...wow, that's customer dedication.

Canon doesn't even manage to release a firmware update that allows
assigning functions to the useless print button, although thousands
of people have been asking for this for more than a year now... :-(

...not to mention of the many other things that could be enhanced
with firmware upgrades. But that would require customer focus...
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Jim F. said:
It's very clear, that if Nikon could produce a decent sensor,
they'd mop the floor with Canon from a features standpoint.
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The ideal camera currently would be a Canon sensor in a Nikon body.
Jim F. said:
We all pay premium prices,
and Canon can deliver a lot more for the money than they are.
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They easily could, but Canon prefers mind-boggling margins.

The real problem is that the 5D/1Dxyz market segment is relatively unimportant for Canon in terms of contribution to financial result. Financially, the music plays in the 400D and to some degree now in the 30D league. Fancy flagship products like for example a 1DsIII are good for boosting sales at the low end (for example 400D).

By neglecting the high end models, Canon is creating long-term problems, in my opinion.
 
Jim F. said:
It's very clear, that if Nikon could produce a decent sensor,
they'd mop the floor with Canon from a features standpoint.
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This would change the world as we know it. If Nikon had the Canon sensors I would change brands today. But if Nikon COULD compete with sensors it would mean Canon would have to listen to its market and be more responsive, innovative, respectfull... so I would not have a reason to jump ship... it's a circle
 
If you stop buying the new releases...and get your friends to stop, and have them get their friends to stop...Canon will lose more market share.

Canon has been dealt the WAKE UP CALL already. With Sony and Samsung now in the market...Canon has already awakened.

Do you really think they would have released a dust removal feature if Olympus was the only competitor with it? Heck NO!!!

Once Nikon develops a dust removal feature, Canon will have to come up with something different.

The Pentax camera has stolen the show. Canon has noticed and will respond. Wait until PMA to see something special from Canon. I know Olympus is going to do something crazy at PMA...one of their product managers leaked the info in an interview during Photokina. Many in the Olympus forum think he may have said a few thing he shouldn't have like that there would be a successor to the E-400...that is sure to affect E-400 sales.

Also, there is an Oly pro model being released for sure at PMA...you don't think Canon is going to just lie there while all this great stuff happens do you? If they do...market share will punish them...
 
Suppose these updates were already included in the Nikon bodies since day 1, then nobody in the Canon camp would be complaining of a lack of firmware updates for Canon bodies.

Just looking from a different perspective.

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To be frank, the only reasons I bought Canon is the sensor and a clear path to full frame. Otherwise Nikons have always felt a lot better to me, much more a photographer's tool. The sense I get is that, when it comes to SLRs, Canon is run more by the marketing department whereas Nikon is influenced more by the professional/serious photographer. I don't think you could beat a Nikon camera with a Canon sensor.

I'll never forget my first Canon film SLR. It was a Rebel S from the early 1990s. This was when Andre Agassi was peddling Canon cameras in slick TV ads, and Nikon had no ads on TV at all. The Rebel S had a bulb setting but absolutely no way to fire remotely by cable. The manual blithely explained that you can use bulb to take long exposures. I guess Canon expected people to keep their finger on the shutter button the whole time. I longed to take nighttime long exposures but couldn't, the whole while the bulb mode just sat there taunting me. I doubt Nikon would have done that.

It seems to me unless you're an EOS-1 customer, you're just a consumer to Canon. But I do love that Canon sensor so here I am!
 
and even better, it normally comes with a new camera as free gift, the only downside is that firmware isn't free, the costs range from $800 to $8k depend on model...
 
And I agree. If Nikon had canon sensors, I'd change brands YESTERDAY.
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astefot said:
astefot said:
yea shame Canon can't match this :(
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What would Canon users want?

Some of my wishes are...
  • configurable print button
  • more configurable set button (ISO, like on the D30)
  • assignable (for example, to the print button) "lock feature" which
prevents accidental parameter changes
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Add:

A true Auto ISO mode ala Nikon D200/D80 would be very nice and very doable in firmware I would expect.
 
Yes the firmware updates have been quite a success I believe, obviously being a Nikon user i am more than happy, they really big advantage of the firmware update for the D2x is that it allows me to use three custom curves one assigned to each bank and each bank can be configured completely differently (things like noise reduction ISO colour mode colour space and anything else you can change) so at the flick of the switch I can choose which bank I wish to use for different shooting situations.

On the D200 which I also have Nikon have decided to allow the AF on Button to work as it should do with Sigma hsm lenses therefore again saving me a considerable sum of money by not having to send my 800 500 100-300 180 for the Chipping.

Phillip.

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Jan Morales said:
To be frank, the only reasons I bought Canon is the sensor and a
clear path to full frame. Otherwise Nikons have always felt a lot
better to me, much more a photographer's tool. The sense I get is
that, when it comes to SLRs, Canon is run more by the marketing
department whereas Nikon is influenced more by the
professional/serious photographer.
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The irony being that many Nikonians feel that Nikon are currently neglecting their pro user base due to the lack of FF and/or a sensor that can compete with the Canons for high-ISO performance.

Until recently I had a D2x and D200, and now have a 5D and 30D. The sole reason for the switch was the noise issue. Having used both a 1Ds and a D2x my opinion is that the latter is the finest DSLR body on sale today, but it just doesn't have the IQ I need for the work I do. Since my clients pay me for the images I get them and not the handling of the body I use, and Nikon couldn't offer me what I wanted I had little option.
 
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