more zoom on a 5700 ?

[philippe140249]

My previous camera was a coolpix 880 but i've just bought (ordered) myself a coolpix 5700 with also the wc-E80 convertor (wide angle) but now i'm wondering, there's also a teleconvertor for the 5700 but it's only a 1,5

Are there other available teleconvertors that "zoom" more ? Did anybody hear announcements that there is a bigger teleconvertor in the pipeline for the 5700 ?

Some pictures I took with my 880 can be found on
http://members.chello.be/cr26466/source/vdpPicCam800.htm

but i like also this one



I can't wait until my new camera arrives in the shop where i bought it...
greetings from belgium

 

[DanFerg]

Hi...not sure about other teleconverters for the 5700 but i beleive you're going to also need the UR-E8 lens converter adapter for your wide angle lens you ordered..the 5700 has no threads on the lens so you need the UR-E8 to add other lens......btw Nice fog pic

 

[doug wever]

I didn't get the converter for my 5700 because the lens is pretty slow already - especially out at 280mm equivalent. Keep your tripod handy.

 

[Dave Van Patten]

My 5700 package came with cheap "Vision Optics Titanium" tele & wide screw-on lenses. Neither one actually magnifies/de-magnifies as much as they claim. I purchased Tiffen add-on lenses for my last camera, and with a step down ring, they work nicely on the 5700. If you're interested, do an internet search for "Tiffen lens" and you should find places to purchase one online. My 2X seems to actually magnify by this factor. You should see prices below $100 for it. You'll need that step down ring I mentioned, as the Tiffen screws onto 43mm threads (and accepts 67mm filters.) I assume you have a UR-E8 for your wide angle nikon add-on. My adapter ring is in two pieces unlike the E8. The first section that screws into the 5700 extends 34mm and is intended only for the wide angle add-on. The second part adds another 22mm for the 2X tele so that the camera's lens, zoomed out, doesn't hit the add-on 2X. The step down ring I use is 52-43, but I'm not certain what female thread size the E8 needs, so your step down ring might differ from mine. Also keep in mind that you will get serious vignetting unless the 5700 is zoomed out almost to its maximum length. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for reading......keep on clicking!
Dave
HP-215, HP-715, NIKON CP5700

 

[JimTanCanada]

I didn't get the converter for my 5700 because the lens is pretty
slow already - especially out at 280mm equivalent. Keep your
tripod handy.

Hi,

I own and use TC-E15ED. I can detect no light loss. So you are getting 12x telephoto at f/4.2.

--
Jim Tan

 

[kecohen]

My previous camera was a coolpix 880 but i've just bought (ordered)
myself a coolpix 5700 with also the wc-E80 convertor (wide angle)
but now i'm wondering, there's also a teleconvertor for the 5700
but it's only a 1,5

Are there other available teleconvertors that "zoom" more ? Did
anybody hear announcements that there is a bigger teleconvertor in
the pipeline for the 5700 ?

Some pictures I took with my 880 can be found on
http://members.chello.be/cr26466/source/vdpPicCam800.htm

but i like also this one



I can't wait until my new camera arrives in the shop where i bought
it...
greetings from belgium

If you are looking for greater distance out of the lens, the TC E15ED (1.5x) will do that. The Olympus B300 is 1.7x, and there are Kenko and Raynox lenses that give you 2x and 3x magnification. The trick with the Kenko 3x, to eliminate the minor vignetting that occurs is to put the camera into 1x digital zoom. It doesn't really do any digital zooming, just eliminates the vignette.

But unless you want some serious vignetting, they don't actually allow you to zoom. They are fixed lens focal length extenders meant to be used when you are already at full telephoto.
--
Karen

...but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.
Minolta 7000i, accessories and lenses, lenses, lenses; CP5700, TC15ED,
Kenko KUT-300 Hi, SB80X Speedlight, Epson Stylus 980N, Epson 7600
(shared), Epson Expression 1680 w/ transparency unit, Tamron Fotovix
60WU....
http://www.e-designarts.com
http://www.pbase.com/kecohen/

 

[Ron T]

Hi Jim,

I agree. Many people think the 5700 has a slow lens. But if they would check into it they would find that a 35mm-280mm lens at f/2.8-4.2 is actually very fast. Try to find a lens with that amount of zoom and that fast for a DSLR, or "any" camera for that matter.

Ron T

I didn't get the converter for my 5700 because the lens is pretty
slow already - especially out at 280mm equivalent. Keep your
tripod handy.

Hi,

I own and use TC-E15ED. I can detect no light loss. So you are
getting 12x telephoto at f/4.2.

--
Jim Tan

 

[Ching-Kuang Shene]

I didn't get the converter for my 5700 because the lens is pretty
slow already - especially out at 280mm equivalent. Keep your
tripod handy.

I agree with other posts to some degree that the 5700 is not slow. However, it is not a fast one either. It is a NORMAL consumer lens. The SLR lenses that are comparable with the 5700 lens are the 28-300 (Tamron and Sigma) and 24-200 (Tokina). The former (28-300) is a variable aperture zoom with maximum aperture F3.5-F6.3, slower than that of the 5700. The 24-200 has max aperture 3.5-5.6, again slower than that of the 5700. Compared the 5700 lens with the consumer type SLR zoom lenses are appropriate because SLR professional lenses never have a zoom ration larger than 3.

On the other hand, if the 5700 lens is compared with digital cameras, it is slower. The Sony 717 has a very fast 5X zoom lens lens F2-F2.4. Extending to 8X may cause the max. aperture to loss one stop, which makes it a F2-F4 lens. This is still faster than the Nikon, although this is only an educated estimate. Note that due to the smaller image size, digital cameras usually have faster lenses than their SLR counterpart. If we accept this common wisdom, saying that the 5700 has a slower lens is not very far fetched.

CK
http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam
950/990/995/2500/4500 user guide

 

[Ron T]

Hi CK,

That's true, but Sony doesn't have a 8x zoom (at this time) so it's not even available. The 5050 has a 1.8 lens which is very fast but it's only a 3x zoom. Considering the zoom range, the 5700 is the about the fastest "available".

Ron T

 

[Ching-Kuang Shene]

Hi CK,

That's true, but Sony doesn't have a 8x zoom (at this time) so it's
not even available. The 5050 has a 1.8 lens which is very fast but
it's only a 3x zoom. Considering the zoom range, the 5700 is the
about the fastest "available".

This is what I said in my original post:
The Sony 717 has a very fast 5X zoom lens lens F2-F2.4. Extending to
8X may cause the max. aperture to loss one stop, which makes it a F2-
F4 lens.

I did not say the Sony lens still is F2 to F2.4.

CK

 

[JimTanCanada]

Guys,

... the fact is that the 5700 has a useable zoom to 280mm equivalent, and a good macro. That is enough for me. That beats the Minolta, and the small-zoom cameras are not in the running. Panasonic apparently has a 10x zoom coming. But, I think that the camera from such a marginal player is not a seriours candidate.

Needless to say, the digicams don't threaten the SLR cameras because the SLRs are so much more capable.

Have I summed it up fairly?

--
Jim Tan

 

[Ron T]

Hello Jim,

All of what you say is true. The DSLR does have many advantages, such as higher ISO's with less noise meaning the use of slower lenses are no problem at all, although the new lenses designed just for Nikon DSLR's should be faster and smaller than using the standard SLR lenses.

Ron T

Guys,

... the fact is that the 5700 has a useable zoom to 280mm
equivalent, and a good macro. That is enough for me. That beats the
Minolta, and the small-zoom cameras are not in the running.
Panasonic apparently has a 10x zoom coming. But, I think that the
camera from such a marginal player is not a seriours candidate.

Needless to say, the digicams don't threaten the SLR cameras
because the SLRs are so much more capable.

Have I summed it up fairly?

--
Jim Tan

 

[Austin_316]

Right Jim, and not only is that fast for 280mm but, add the 1.5x adaptor and get 420mm at f4.2 or very close. I don't see much light loss with a 1.5x on mine. Also I bought a Crystal Vision 2x that looks to do about 1.99x that is close enough for me but, only about 60% of the center part of the image is acceptable to me. The corners have so much aberation, I would not want to use all of it. It will take some nice bird photos though.
Michael

I agree. Many people think the 5700 has a slow lens. But if they
would check into it they would find that a 35mm-280mm lens at
f/2.8-4.2 is actually very fast. Try to find a lens with that
amount of zoom and that fast for a DSLR, or "any" camera for that
matter.

Ron T

I didn't get the converter for my 5700 because the lens is pretty
slow already - especially out at 280mm equivalent. Keep your
tripod handy.

Hi,

I own and use TC-E15ED. I can detect no light loss. So you are
getting 12x telephoto at f/4.2.

--
Jim Tan

--
Michael

 

[JimTanCanada]

I agree. Many people think the 5700 has a slow lens. But if they
would check into it they would find that a 35mm-280mm lens at
f/2.8-4.2 is actually very fast. Try to find a lens with that
amount of zoom and that fast for a DSLR, or "any" camera for that
matter.

Ron T

I didn't get the converter for my 5700 because the lens is pretty
slow already - especially out at 280mm equivalent. Keep your
tripod handy.

Hi,

I own and use TC-E15ED. I can detect no light loss. So you are
getting 12x telephoto at f/4.2.

--
Jim Tan

--
Michael

--
Jim Tan

 

[philippe140249]

Just ordered my TC-E15D ... ouch, in europe it's 285 euro's ... so that's (if i'm right equal to almost 260 $ !!!!

I'm curious what results it will give

I didn't get the converter for my 5700 because the lens is pretty
slow already - especially out at 280mm equivalent. Keep your
tripod handy.

Hi,

I own and use TC-E15ED. I can detect no light loss. So you are
getting 12x telephoto at f/4.2.

--
Jim Tan

--
Philippe VDP

 

[kecohen]

The corners have so much aberation, I would not want to use all of it.
It will take some nice bird photos though.
Michael

Michael,

I don't know if this will help, but when I was testing out the 3x Kenko at the local Wolf Camera, I complained of the same thing. He suggested I use 1x digital zoom to correct it. I said the whole point of getting the lens was to avoid using digital zoom. He told me the digital zoom doesn't actually work, just corrects the vignetting and aberration. I tried it and it helped a great deal. You may be able to get more usable image out of it.

--
Karen

...but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.
Minolta 7000i, accessories and lenses, lenses, lenses; CP5700, TC15ED,
Kenko KUT-300 Hi, SB80X Speedlight, Epson Stylus 980N, Epson 7600
(shared), Epson Expression 1680 w/ transparency unit, Tamron Fotovix
60WU....
http://www.e-designarts.com
http://www.pbase.com/kecohen/

 

[aziz]

Try this combination
At the maximum wide angle:



with this combination:



you get this:



Sure there are signs of vignetting but there are livable for an effective 2.55X zoom(1.5X1.7) and an optically good combination.

cheers

aziz

If you are looking for greater distance out of the lens, the TC
E15ED (1.5x) will do that. The Olympus B300 is 1.7x, and there are
Kenko and Raynox lenses that give you 2x and 3x magnification. The
trick with the Kenko 3x, to eliminate the minor vignetting that
occurs is to put the camera into 1x digital zoom. It doesn't really
do any digital zooming, just eliminates the vignette.

But unless you want some serious vignetting, they don't actually
allow you to zoom. They are fixed lens focal length extenders meant
to be used when you are already at full telephoto.
--
Karen

 

[JimTanCanada]

I'm curious what results it will give

I didn't get the converter for my 5700 because the lens is pretty
slow already - especially out at 280mm equivalent. Keep your
tripod handy.

Hi,

I own and use TC-E15ED. I can detect no light loss. So you are
getting 12x telephoto at f/4.2.

--
Jim Tan

--
Philippe VDP

--
Jim Tan

 

[Austin_316]

That's a crazy idea, but it makes sense since digizoom crops off the outer portion of the image as it is on the sensor. I have said for a year now that Digizoom is more useful than one might think. Many people say it is only cropping the image that can be done in Photoshop. I have taken a good, 8x zoom photo at 5mp Tiff mode and another 8x with 4x digizoom. if I crop the equal part from the 8x 5mp tiff and rez it up to equal the 4x digizoom image, the Digizoom one is noticeably better. Not day and night buy it is worth using the Digizoom over cropping later. Of coarse a nice 2x is far better but I didn't take a 4x digizoom shot to compare.

Isn't the Kenko 3x too small for us to use without Vignette. This lens is 62mm and my 1.5 is 55mm. I would not want to go less than 55mm perhaps 52mm I don't know.

Thanks for your input here. I like nature and birds. I would love to get more bird photos and obviously a long lens or 2x 3x lens add on is essential. I will most likely be using my new 1250mm Meade telescope as soon as Bernie gets home and sends my "T" Mount.
Thanks again,
Michael

The corners have so much aberation, I would not want to use all of it.
It will take some nice bird photos though.
Michael

Michael,
I don't know if this will help, but when I was testing out the 3x
Kenko at the local Wolf Camera, I complained of the same thing. He
suggested I use 1x digital zoom to correct it. I said the whole
point of getting the lens was to avoid using digital zoom. He told
me the digital zoom doesn't actually work, just corrects the
vignetting and aberration. I tried it and it helped a great deal.
You may be able to get more usable image out of it.

--
Karen

...but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you
need.
Minolta 7000i, accessories and lenses, lenses, lenses; CP5700, TC15ED,
Kenko KUT-300 Hi, SB80X Speedlight, Epson Stylus 980N, Epson 7600
(shared), Epson Expression 1680 w/ transparency unit, Tamron Fotovix
60WU....
http://www.e-designarts.com
http://www.pbase.com/kecohen/

--
Michael

 

[JimTanCanada]

Hi Karen,

I am trying to improve my sharpening skills. Can you comment on this picture (1.5MP crop)?

http://www.pbase.com/image/11820295

I usually use LOW Sharpening and I am starting to sharpen my photos. Don't look at the original size because it has a huge amount of compression artefacts.

--
Jim Tan