More Hasselblad X1D user experience

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Last week I've been kindly lended an X1D by the Dutch Hasselblad importer Transcontinenta, and I thought it'd be useful to share my experiences here. Point of reference: I am a sports photographer in the area of strength sports (weightlifting, powerlifting, CrossFit) and do both on location coverage of competitions as well as studio shooting with artificial light. I shoot a Nikon D800 and have never before used a mirrorless, medium format, or leaf shutter camera before (so my review will be done from that perspective).

(bit of a long rant, sorry ;-)

The good:

That sensor. Seriously. The image quality is sublime. Forget about the detail from the 50mp (not an enormous step up from 36mp), but the colours, the dynamic range, skin tones, they are all way ahead of what FF can produce. Out of camera the differences are already visible, but once you start editing the raw files there's just so much more highlight and shadow detail recoverable. Night and day. Regarding detail, I did find myself from time to time doublechecking if my D800 shots of the same scene were out of focus... they are just that much sharper on the X1D. It doesn't seem to have an AA filter, which is a good thing (one image I took I detected a little moire but who cares).

The lenses. I have no reference point with other Hasselblad lenses, but simply put: they are great. I used the 90/3.2 and 45/3.5. Would have loved to see a bit larger apertures, but they are sharp corner to corner without any distrortion or vignetting that I can see (didn't shoot brick walls though). There's a little bit of chromatic abberation (very easy to spot on the knurl of a barbell), but easily correctable. Bokeh quality is awesome and the transition of in-focus to out-of-focus is buttery smooth. I'm not any good at manual focusing but the "focus by wire" manual focus felt very smooth and light years ahead of anything Nikon puts together. The 45mm is essentially a kit lens, but they certainly did not cheap out on it.

The build quality. Best built camera I've ever handled. The weight is spot on: not heavy, but feels very robust. People I've handed it to said "it feels heavier than you'd expect", which probably sums it up. It feels great in the hand, and there really is not a single thing about the build that I could say felt "cheap" or "fragile" (and I am quite picky about those things). Literally it's a block of metal with a few buttons on it, and that feeling doesn't change with a lens attached.

The user interface. I had a demo model so it's probably not even finished, but the touch screen was very responsive, easy to navigate, and just a joy to use. Comparisons to an iPhone are certainly not out of place. Hasselblad seems very committed to keep improving the software and it had some major firmware updates recently when I got my hands on it. They will keep coming.

In terms of physical controls, I love the dual control dials which work almost like a Nikon: aperture and shutter controls in M mode, and the rear button controls exposure compensation in S or A mode. Great!

The sync speed. This is why you want a leaf shutter. Being able to sync strobes up to 1/2000th is liberating, allowing you far more control over ambient light and depth of field. To those who will say: yes but there's HSS or HS: it's not the same. Both those rob power from the flash so you have to compensate in some way for that. When I took it out to location I set it to ~750th of a second and still had 1.5 stop in either direction to control ambient light without touching the strobes. Very, very nice indeed.

The not so good:

Responsiveness. I've told my friends when I was taking pictures of them during a CrossFit workout, about 10 mins into it: "this ain't no sports camera". And yes, I knew that beforehand, but it really does slow everything down. Which in some situations, like street photography, I actually enjoyed. But even for predictable sports like weightlifting, it doesn't help. The leaf shutter introductes a few tenth of a second delay before actually taking the image, and because the sensor takes so long to read out, the screen blacks out for over a second afterwards. Focus speed is "ok", but as there is no tracking it's not any good for moving subjects.

Autofocus. They've recently incorporated selectable focus points into the firmware so you're not stuck to the one in the middle. Selecting a new focus point via the touchscreen works well enough, but if you're used to changing focus points with a multiselector and your eye to the viewfinder, you're screwed: there is no multiselector. Hasselblad has implemented a clever way of doing that by using the control wheels, but it's just not fast enough. Finally, autofocus speed as mentioned before is "ok". I didn't expect much so I wasn't disappointed, but without tracking or a fast phase detect sensor, it reduces the keeper rate during sports shooting.

Close focus. I didn't actually measure it, but I did find myself getting too close to my subject a few times (especially with the 45mm). I like to fill th frame and I also consider wide angles to be able to get "into the scene". Close focus is a tradeoff and it's clear to me they relaxed this feature a little to improve other optical qualities.

A little buggy. Tiny things that I think can be put down to this being a demo model, but the focus stopped working a few times (completely, even manual because it focuses electronically) so I had to activitate the menu and then go back to live view. Doesn't seem to remember all its exposure settings when you shut it down and start it up again. No auto ISO in manual mode (yet). Got a few strange errors telling me no lens was attached when there clearly was one. These things happened a few times during a week of use... not frequent enough to really bother me, but frequent enough to notice.

The rest:

Battery life is "ok". It has a huge sensor that's swithced on all the time, but you can run on a single battery for several hours. Pretty impressive I'd say, but how you use it can have a great effect on battery life. First time I took it out, I went through a whole battery within a few hours. When I got the hang of it I did an entire afternoon photoshoot with it, capturing around 180 images, using only half the battery... so with 1 or 2 spares on hand you'll be fine for a day. Batteries do take 6 hours to charge, which seems weird (my Move battery which is over 2x as large gets charged in little over 1 hour).

I've heard people complain about it getting hot. I don't understand that. Yes the grip starts to feel a little bit warm after heavy use... actually makes it even more comfortable to hold.

Startup time, yes it takes about 5-6 seconds to start up, but just leave it on, switch off the screen when it's in the bag and it's not an issue. Didn't bother me at all.

High ISO performance is pretty good. I wasn't expecting much but those expectations were beaten. Sure, it only really blows you away at low ISO, but you can definitely use it up to say 3200 and get good images.

It didn't give the ability to use the secondary card slot as backup, but I've been told they are aware of this and will fix it in a future firmware update

It has an EVF, obviously. I thought it was pretty responsive, clear, and detailed, but I don't know how that compares to other mirrorless cameras. The fact that I'm a lifetime OVF user and I managed to get used to this EVF pretty quickly probably means it's a good one. I still prefer an OVF though.



Conclusion:

The images it produces are amazing, but you do make a few sacrifices for it. And to Hasselblad's credit, they've never claimed going for anything other than outstanding image quality, even when it means compromising on other areas. So it delivers on its promise.

It's not meant for sports photography but as I do a lot of studio shooting as well, I wouldn't rule out getting one. I loved it for street photography too. It's hard to describe that walking around with a 10k camera made me stand out less (and worry about attracting thieves less) than when you're using an entry-level Canon or Nikon in the street.

Although it's a "cheap" Hasselblad, it certainly feels like a luxury product. It's well built, handles well, and produces the goods. The lenses are very, very good too. I consider this total redemption for that little Sony adventure they went into a few years ago.

Did I forget anything? Any questions? Feel free to ask!
 
Thank you very much for your insights into this (hopefully) awesome camera. I believe Hasselblad is taking all criticism seriously and will take care of business here.

Yeah, that sensor is everything you say it is. I have a CFV-50c back on a tech cam and it is quite an improvement in image quality over my D810.
 
Did the importer give any indication as to when supply would become available for those with outstanding or even new orders?

Did you take note of the current firmware version?

Did the camera include functioning GPS?

Thank you for your write up.
 
Did the importer give any indication as to when supply would become available for those with outstanding or even new orders?
He said they're slowly beginning to ship now... but I think they're careful about giving specific commitments. They probably really did not anticipate the high demand for this thing.
Did you take note of the current firmware version?
Sorry, I didn't. I do recall they said it had been installed a week ago (two weeks since now) and it included auto-WB and selectable focus points, among others. The auto white balance worked great btw... didn't test all lighting conditions but couldn't help but think that it was more accurate than Nikon's.
Did the camera include functioning GPS?
Didn't check that. Hasselblad specifies that it has GPS, but as my files don't seem to include GPS tags it was probably switched off.
Thank you for your write up.
You're welcome!
 
Having shot with a prototype, I think it's far more likely that the delays are down to Blad working to complete the firmware to a point where they can release the camera.

The whole 'lot's of orders' thing is a smoke screen IMHO

If they had a finished camera, but short supply, there'd still be some people out there receiving their production cameras.

I've yet to see a finished production camera in the wild, so I'm concluding that the camera isn't yet finished.

I asked for a loaner demo back in the summer from the Blad rep - but still nada on that request as well - he was positive at the time, but the months have clicked by with no camera to play with :(
 
Yeah, that sensor is everything you say it is. I have a CFV-50c back on a tech cam and it is quite an improvement in image quality over my D810.
Sts2 and John, you're not allowed to make that much sense in here.

And using your eyes to judge a sensor? All kinds of wrong, how could you...? ;)

Didn't you guys get the memo?

That MF sensor is only 66% larger than FF, so it's not possible for it to have any visible advantages to the eye.

And that FF does have f1.4 lenses, eliminating any benefits such a small MF sensor might have.

I'm surprised such great photographers like you guys are using that ancient thing... how is that called again? The eye?

;)

Joking aside, a testimonial without any graphs or statements of "how many stops of DR this is better than the other" is nice for a change.

It's amazing that if you consider sensor sizes between 1 inch and FF, people will take any extra mm in size with open arms, saying those few extra mm's are life changers.

(examples: APS-C vs M4/3 guys. APS-H vs APS-C guys, etc)

But when you step into MF sizes, it seems 44 x 33 is always "too small", but OTOH, 36 x 24 is "really large". Go figure, huh?

Sts2, BTW, do you also shoot Strongman?

If you do, have you ever shot Savickas and the other elite level strongmen?

Seeing that massive frame of Savickas in person, must be an amazing sight to behold!!

Best regards,

Marcio Napoli
 
Hi,

Thanks for sharing!

I have seen some raw samples and the lenses are seriously good. So good that I guess it will take a couple of sensor generations to make them justice.

Best regards

Erik
 
Didn't you guys get the memo?
That MF sensor is only 66% larger than FF, so it's not possible for it to have any visible advantages to the eye.

And that FF does have f1.4 lenses, eliminating any benefits such a small MF sensor might have.
...
It's amazing that if you consider sensor sizes between 1 inch and FF, people will take any extra mm in size with open arms, saying those few extra mm's are life changers.

(examples: APS-C vs M4/3 guys. APS-H vs APS-C guys, etc)

But when you step into MF sizes, it seems 44 x 33 is always "too small", but OTOH, 36 x 24 is "really large". Go figure, huh?
...

Hi,

Just to say, going from APS-C to 24x36 the sensor area will increase by 125%. So going from APS-C to full frame is a quite significant step. Going from 4/3 to APS-C is a similar step than going from 24x36 mm to 33x44 (77% vs 66%).

The downside with APS-C is that there are very few lenses optimised for that format at least coming from Nikon, Canon or Sony.

On the other hand, it is possible to optimise a lens system for a small sensor. Fuji is doing that with their APS-C offerings. Interestingly enough, Fuji did not develop a full frame camera, as they felt that the 125% difference from APS-C was not significant enough, so they went to 33x44 mm.

APS-H doesn't really exist any more, it offered just around 50% advantage over APS-C. AFAIK, there were only two vendors of APS-H cameras, Canon and Leica. Canon's offering was oriented towards sports/reporting shooters who need high frame rate and small film sizes.

Over at Luminous Landscape the late Michael Reichmann had a long interview with Ctein, a well known printing artist. Ctein is using 4/3" camera and he says that it is perfectly good enough for A2-size (16x23") prints. Somewhat surprising, perhaps.

I did shoot with a P45+ and a 24MP 24x36 camera at one point in time and I could really not observe any difference at A2 print size, without a loupe that is. Going up to A1, yes, the P45+ showed advantage.

My experience is that the more controlled the experiment the less observable difference there is.

My understanding is that Hasselblad has very well made colour profiles, and that would certainly be beneficial if you use Phocus.

I have no doubt the X1D will be a great camera when they start delivering. But I also think it is a bit handicapped by it's sensor, not having phase detection. It may take another generation of sensors to make best use of the lenses. The first good raw samples I have seen indicated that the lenses outperform the sensor by a wide margin.

Also, I feel that Hasselblad has taken a bold step going into mirrorless and I wish them good luck. They both need and deserve it.

A major factor with the X1D and the Fuji GFX is that both camera systems are optimised for the 33x44 mm format. That was never the case with Hasselblad's and Phase One's former offerings. The Phase One lens programme was optimised for 645 and Hasselblad originally optimised for 37x49 mm. With the X1D Hasselblad designs the lenses for 33x44 mm sensor size, saving both weight and money and probably gaining a bit performance advantage.

Best regards

Erik

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Joking aside, a testimonial without any graphs or statements of "how many stops of DR this is better than the other" is nice for a change.
Thanks haha. I deliberately didn't do any kind of technical testing... I also believe that even if the charts show a difference but your eye doesn't, there's not much point to it, is there?
If you do, have you ever shot Savickas and the other elite level strongmen?

Seeing that massive frame of Savickas in person, must be an amazing sight to behold!!

Best regards,

Marcio Napoli
Unfortunately I don't. But I do know a Dutch powerlifter who competes at world championship level and wouldn't be out of place among those guys (although he "only" weighs 150kg vs Savickas's 180kg) ;-) He's still a giant who squats and deadlifts well over 300kg and bench presses close to 200kg.

You can only really tell the size of a man by either standing next to him... or in comparison to someone of average size... Here's him spotting another competitor during a powerlifting competition:

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