largest polarizing filter to fit all xf lenses?

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hi all! i'd like to buy a B+W circular polarizing filter and i'm trying to find out what's the largest filter size needed to accommodate all of the xf lenses, current and future releases.. my intention is to then get step up rings so that I can use the same filter on all the lenses..

so far it seems the largest filter size is on the 55-200 zoom lens at 62mm..

is that a good idea?
 
10-24 shows a 77mm thread in the mockups

Great way to save money on having to buy multiple expensive filters, I did the same thing with my ND filter.
 
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It certainly saves money and bag-space, but you have to be aware of the drawbacks such as not being able to use the sun shades coming with your lenses. You could of course buy a 72mm thread mounted shade but be aware that a shade for a 14mm has to be very different than the one for the 35mm or even more obvious any telephoto.

Apart from that, as was already mentioned, current Fuji lenses top out at 62mm (55-200mm tele), the available Zeiss Touits at 67mm (12mm WA) and Fuji's wide angle zoom mock-up had a 77mm thread.

Cheers,

Mike
 
jmagbita wrote:

hi all! i'd like to buy a B+W circular polarizing filter and i'm trying to find out what's the largest filter size needed to accommodate all of the xf lenses, current and future releases.. my intention is to then get step up rings so that I can use the same filter on all the lenses..

so far it seems the largest filter size is on the 55-200 zoom lens at 62mm..

is that a good idea?
When I got my X-E1 I decided on 77mm (based on the 10-24mm lens) and have since acquired a set of ND filters and a polarizer.
 
The 10-24 is 72 not 77mm.

Currently I am using a 67mm CPL with step up rings.



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Al Valentino wrote:

The 10-24 is 72 not 77mm.

Currently I am using a 67mm CPL with step up rings.

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yes, so 77mm should give some wiggle room in case one wants to stack a couple of filters
 
nixda wrote:
Al Valentino wrote:

The 10-24 is 72 not 77mm.

Currently I am using a 67mm CPL with step up rings.

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yes, so 77mm should give some wiggle room in case one wants to stack a couple of filters
Yes. At the moment it is not known if this lens would require thin or normal filters to avoid vignetting. With 77mm you can't go wrong. Sadly I recently sold my 77mm CPL when I sold my last 77mm Nikon, but I still have a 77mm ND and Clear filter.
 
jmagbita wrote:

hi all! i'd like to buy a B+W circular polarizing filter and i'm trying to find out what's the largest filter size needed to accommodate all of the xf lenses, current and future releases.. my intention is to then get step up rings so that I can use the same filter on all the lenses..

so far it seems the largest filter size is on the 55-200 zoom lens at 62mm..

is that a good idea?
It is only a good idea if you actually buy the 55-200 and the 10-24 or you just wasting money.
 
ryan2007 wrote:
jmagbita wrote:

hi all! i'd like to buy a B+W circular polarizing filter and i'm trying to find out what's the largest filter size needed to accommodate all of the xf lenses, current and future releases.. my intention is to then get step up rings so that I can use the same filter on all the lenses..

so far it seems the largest filter size is on the 55-200 zoom lens at 62mm..

is that a good idea?
It is only a good idea if you actually buy the 55-200 and the 10-24 or you just wasting money.
This is true; however, I have 58mm filters (ND and CPL) and tried a 62-58mm step-down ring when I got my 55-200, and can safely say that there is no vignetting at the 55mm end or the 200mm end. I haven't tried stacking filters and suspect that would be an issue, but that's not my intended use. Not sure why they didn't just make that lens consistent with the 18-55 and 14mm in the first place.

The 10-24 would be a different story, obviously, and one would need to decide if they want to carry around large 72mm filters to accommodate all of their smaller lenses, or just double up.

Steve
 
gearhorse wrote:

10-24 shows a 77mm thread in the mockups

Great way to save money on having to buy multiple expensive filters, I did the same thing with my ND filter.
All my filters are 77mm. A throw back to my Tokina 12-24mm used with my S3Pro.

A few cheap $2 step up rings and I've got all lenses covered and guaranteed no vignetting. A good way to go IMO

:-)
 
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Have you thought about a filter system? I just got myself a Lee Seven5: http://www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera/system#seven5-system

You buy lens adapters (one per filter thread, not expensive). On that you click a filter holder (you only need one) and in the filter holder you shove filters and/or click a polarizer on top. You can buy a (huge) lens hood as well.

Lee have lens adapters up to 72mm, so I really hope the 10-24 will indeed be 72, not 77.
 
KaGee7:

Have you used the clip-on polarizer for the Seven5 system with the 14mm? If so, is there vignetting with a couple of slots for rectangular slide-in filters (like the Big Stopper and a GND)?

Thanks!

KaGee7 wrote:

Have you thought about a filter system? I just got myself a Lee Seven5: http://www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera/system#seven5-system

You buy lens adapters (one per filter thread, not expensive). On that you click a filter holder (you only need one) and in the filter holder you shove filters and/or click a polarizer on top. You can buy a (huge) lens hood as well.

Lee have lens adapters up to 72mm, so I really hope the 10-24 will indeed be 72, not 77.
 
I only have the 18-55. Not sure if I will keep it at that. I went from Canon to Fuji to keep things simple, light and compact. I do however like the idea of the 10-24. I will wait for reviews of that lens before thinking about a 14mm.

In the past I aquired quite a few polarizers, of which the only one remaining now is a 67mm. I also have a 64x (6 stop) and a 1000x (10 stops = Big Stopper) B&W ND's, also @ 67 mm (which supposedly have a slight color cast versus the LEE's). I don't like fiddling around with step-up rings, and I wanted the grad-ND with the ability of rotating and precise positioning. That is why I now started with the LEE Seven5 system.

The clip-on polarizer however is quite big, so I would assume no vignetting with the Fuji 14mm which only has a filter thread of 58mm.

The Seven5 only has 2 filter slots (plus clip-on polarizer), so less chance for vignetting. If you want more slots you should look into the larger 100mm system (for which there are adapters up to 105 (???) mm). For the 100mm system there are slim, wide angle adapters. For the Seven5 system there is only one kind which are supposedly slim enough already.

YHF wrote:

KaGee7:

Have you used the clip-on polarizer for the Seven5 system with the 14mm? If so, is there vignetting with a couple of slots for rectangular slide-in filters (like the Big Stopper and a GND)?

Thanks!
KaGee7 wrote:

Have you thought about a filter system? I just got myself a Lee Seven5: http://www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera/system#seven5-system

You buy lens adapters (one per filter thread, not expensive). On that you click a filter holder (you only need one) and in the filter holder you shove filters and/or click a polarizer on top. You can buy a (huge) lens hood as well.

Lee have lens adapters up to 72mm, so I really hope the 10-24 will indeed be 72, not 77.
 
Good answers all around!

here's my 2¢:

OK, maybe 75¢.

If you invest in great lenses, take the time to filter them with quality glass and quality adapters. This can mean adapting lenses to filters as already advised.

Of course, the best case scenario is to buy great filters for each of the thread sizes you would need to cover all your lenses that need to be filtered. I only filter my wides and occasionally teles when used in demanding conditions. I ONLY polarize when the subject will greatly improve with the effect, never just casually for increased contrast.

For the most part, I try to use the original manufacturer's lens shades at all times. But for casual street work, or when there is little chance of unwanted light reaching the lens element, I'm less concerned about shading, and this is the case for my new Fuji X-T1.

When a filter per lens size is financially unpractical, try at least to get a Thin Polarizer for your widest lens if the lens shade will still fit and the filter is reachable to turn properly. After that, you may not always need to shade a polarized lens as the strongest polarizing effect happens when the lens is pointed at 90º to the sun or light source, almost negating the need to shade from light. But i like them for general protection whenever feasible.

OK, so I bought a Fuji X-T1 system, and the lenses' filter threads range from 39, 58, 62 and 72. I was not exactly happy about this, but here's what i did and it worked very well.

Amazon sells many different cheap-to-not-so cheap step UP rings, and the off-brand ones that are well made for under $20 are Fotodiox. I bought both a Tiffen (and the Fotodiox for half the price) and I could see nor feel any difference when threading and un-threading them.

I recommend using single step-ups on any lens, never stacking them for two reasons: Stacking invites trouble as the thin rings bind together. it also increases the chance of vignetting on some of the wider focal length lenses. Ironically, on a small prime lens, stacking a cone of step-up rings can actually become a lens shade, but I don't recommended it unless you can be sure to grab only the one attached to the lens when unmounting.

Before using them in the field, practice using them at home with an air blower handy in case of any particles, which is expected from a threaded Anodized ring. (Older brass step-up by Heliopan are rare and expensive, but amazingly well made). Once you have broken in your rings, you can tie them together with a velcro strip or stack them loosely into a pouch or Ziplock.

Buy a lens filter wrench or two, as this can really help if you get a stuck filter ring. Buy a metal wrench if available, as the plastic ones rarely last unless made of Delrin or something less brittle than the common cheap stuff.

I already own a 67 and a 77 CPL by B+W for my Canon system,

So, For my Fuji lenses I bought:

For my 14mm and 18-55mm = 58-67 ring

For my 55-200 = 62-67 ring

For my 10-24 = 72-77 ring

Of course this limits the use of lens shades unless you can find threaded ones that won't vignette.

I don't plan on polarizing my 27mm pancake lens (39mm threads), as it's for casual street shooting only.

You probably have heard this but I'll add it here to reiterate: Buy the best filters you can, as there is no sense putting crappy glass in front of great glass. I stick to the higher-end German/Japanese-made pro filters, and their coatings seem pretty bombproof around salt, mist and grit. I never use a lens cloth on them without blowing them off first.


~ Dave
David Julian : Freelance Photographer, Author and Educator
http://davidjulian.com/BLOG "Notes From a Creative Soul"
 
"Before using them in the field, practice using them at home with an air blower handy in case of any particles, which is expected from a threaded Anodized ring. (Older brass step-up by Heliopan are rare and expensive, but amazingly well made). Once you have broken in your rings, you can tie them together with a velcro strip or stack them loosely into a pouch or Ziplock."

They are not rare, but they are not common on Ebay. Virtually any camera store in the USA either stocks them or can order them for you and almost every common size is stocked in the USA.
 
Thanks for the correction Sal.

I've moved away from relying on step up rings alone since my post, having found them difficult to use in the field under demanding or dusty conditions. I now prefer fitted Heliopan and B+W thin filters for my main optics with fitted metal hoods with pinch caps.
 

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