JPG or HEIF only rather than RAW

[aChanceEncounter]

Curious how many folks trust the JPG or HEIFs enough to not shoot RAW when photographing?

This is an interesting conversation because I grew up with the philosophy "get it right in camera". For digital, that would include all the jpg settings, right?

 

[TeepG]

After switching to an X-T5 from Nikon, I rarely shoot RAW. I find that I need very little adjustments with the X-T5 jpeg files. Shooting only for myself of course I am not as critical now as I was, I also enjoy doing more photography than I was.

 

[Morris0]

Curious how many folks trust the JPG or HEIFs enough to not shoot RAW when photographing?

This is an interesting conversation because I grew up with the philosophy "get it right in camera". For digital, that would include all the jpg settings, right?

If you want a slide film like experience either can work. HEIF is not universally compatible yet so if you want to use HEIF, test it with the programs you will use to view and edit before taking important photos.

Morris

 

[Bielers]

Curious how many folks trust the JPG or HEIFs enough to not shoot RAW when photographing?

This is an interesting conversation because I grew up with the philosophy "get it right in camera". For digital, that would include all the jpg settings, right?

 

[jaberg]

I shoot jpg (or heif) only for 90%+ of my photographs.

 

[aChanceEncounter]

Curious how many folks trust the JPG or HEIFs enough to not shoot RAW when photographing?

This is an interesting conversation because I grew up with the philosophy "get it right in camera". For digital, that would include all the jpg settings, right?

If you want a slide film like experience either can work. HEIF is not universally compatible yet so if you want to use HEIF, test it with the programs you will use to view and edit before taking important photos.

Morris

Been using heif without issue for over a year Like the 10bit rather than 8 of jpg

 

[Erik Baumgartner]

Curious how many folks trust the JPG or HEIFs enough to not shoot RAW when photographing?

This is an interesting conversation because I grew up with the philosophy "get it right in camera". For digital, that would include all the jpg settings, right?

IMO, you’re best off worrying about getting the exposure, focus, and composition “right in camera” for the best possible RAW file, and worrying about everything else in post. JPEGs and HEIFs can look OK when used in good light, and when everything goes right, but have some real limitations in more challenging circumstances and/or whenever some of those baked-in JPEG settings inevitably go wrong. I never shoot JPEG/HEIF. If most of your images typically need a little tweaking anyway, it makes a lot more sense to shoot RAW.

If you aren’t into fine-tuning and are generally OK with SOOC and no cropping or fine-tuning whatsoever, JPEG/HEIF is probably the best way to go - they will most likely look better than RAW with only default processing, and still retain a good bit of adjustment latitude if absolutely necessary.

 

[yardcoyote]

Me, for one. I shoot jpeg only, with the goal of getting it right in camera. All of my cameras have their jpeg deep settings adjusted to suit my personal tastes, and I do make small edits to my finished files. There's actually a fair amount of room to move around in a well-exposed jpeg.

 

[Ysarex]

Curious how many folks trust the JPG or HEIFs enough to not shoot RAW when photographing?

Never. I'm not willing to accept the technical IQ compromise to my images that would result from using the camera processed output image -- raw only.

This is an interesting conversation because I grew up with the philosophy "get it right in camera".

I take photos regularly that can't be "gotten right in camera" and no way will I give up taking those photos.

For digital, that would include all the jpg settings, right?

 

[HeavyDuty]

That’s actually the goal with my Fuji gear - the chrome experience where you get it right in camera and do minimal post. I’m a risk manager, though so I shoot raw + JPG just in case and file the raws away for problem cases - which hasn’t happened yet.

I wish that Apple iPadOS would support Fuji HEIF so I could do everything on my iPad, I’m restricted to JPG due to this.

 

[Lettermanian]

That’s actually the goal with my Fuji gear - the chrome experience where you get it right in camera and do minimal post. I’m a risk manager, though so I shoot raw + JPG just in case and file the raws away for problem cases - which hasn’t happened yet.

I wish that Apple iPadOS would support Fuji HEIF so I could do everything on my iPad, I’m restricted to JPG due to this.

I have lots of X-T5 HEIFs in my iPad from a recent trip through the Rockies. Photos works with them. It's the latest iPad A16 base model (not a Pro), running iOS 18.6. Which version do you have?

 

[Lettermanian]

Curious how many folks trust the JPG or HEIFs enough to not shoot RAW when photographing?

This is an interesting conversation because I grew up with the philosophy "get it right in camera". For digital, that would include all the jpg settings, right?

I much prefer and enjoy getting as much of the final image as possible when out shooting; I simply do not enjoy sitting in front of a computer post-processing raw images. Fuji's jpegs (and now HEIFs) are indeed high-quality and often are great by themselves or with light post-processing. The ability to customize the film sims with recipes for specific looks is also fun. I recently took a trip through the Rockies with my X-T5 and shot almost all HEIFs with customized film sims. Shooting jpeg with Fuji is a lot like the old film days, where one would select different films for different looks. I used to shoot Fuji Reala for weddings, Velvia slide film for landscapes, Kodak Gold or Fuji Super HG for everyday use, Ilford Delta 3200 for super grainy b&w, etc. Fuji brings back that film feeling, at least it does for me.


That said, I'd still recommend shooting jpeg + raw to see for yourself what the differences are like. Only you can decide if the ooc images are good enough for you.

--
"I much prefer to be behind the camera than in front of it."
- Me and every other introvert

 

[xtm]

I haven't shot RAW in over a decade, I view it as a waste of time. Especially since Fuji JPGs are so darn good right out of the camera. My GFX 100S doesn't put out HEIF, so I shoot JPG only with it.

 

[Antone]

I use DXO and it does not support HEIF so I still shoot raw+JPEG.

 

[Jared Willson]

Curious how many folks trust the JPG or HEIFs enough to not shoot RAW when photographing?

This is an interesting conversation because I grew up with the philosophy "get it right in camera". For digital, that would include all the jpg settings, right?

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Paul

I have a strong preference for raw files, even if they can look a little flat SOOC.

“Getting it right” in camera definitely does NOT include all the choices made in creating the JPG. It does not include sharpening. It does not include the curves adjustments I might want. It does not include an AI based high ISO noise reduction routine. “Getting it right in camera” often involves exposing for the highlights, knowing I will adjust mid tones and shadows to taste in post, and, no, using DR200 or DR400 is not just the same. There are lots of things I frequently do in post that can not be duplicated in camera at time of capture.

If I had different interests in photography—if I hated post processing, if I were dealing with a large volume of images, if I were working on a timeline, I might well try to get as much right as possible in the camera and just live with the results in a JPG or HEIF file. But that’s not me. I generally handle a low volume of images and enjoy editing the files to taste, so I definitely want the added flexibility of a raw file.

 

[BluesJake]

I switched from JPG when HEIF became available on the cameras.

From Google: HEIF (High Efficiency Image Format), also known as HEIC, is generally considered better than JPEG in terms of image quality and file size efficiency. HEIF offers better compression, meaning it can store images at smaller file sizes without sacrificing noticeable quality.

But honestly, I can't see a difference in IQ. I usually save as RAW too, just in case I have some extreme changes to make in post, but I rarely need to use them.

 

[HeavyDuty]

That’s actually the goal with my Fuji gear - the chrome experience where you get it right in camera and do minimal post. I’m a risk manager, though so I shoot raw + JPG just in case and file the raws away for problem cases - which hasn’t happened yet.

I wish that Apple iPadOS would support Fuji HEIF so I could do everything on my iPad, I’m restricted to JPG due to this.

I have lots of X-T5 HEIFs in my iPad from a recent trip through the Rockies. Photos works with them. It's the latest iPad A16 base model (not a Pro), running iOS 18.6. Which version do you have?

Interesting - I noticed this just a few weeks ago when I got my X100VI. Mine is an older iPad 9th Gen (for some reason I thought it was an Pro) also running iPadOS 18.6. I’ll try again tomorrow.

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[MrAndreas]

Convert HEIF to JPEG? Easy. To WEBP? No problem, either.

 

[Meeces]

Curious how many folks trust the JPG or HEIFs enough to not shoot RAW when photographing?

This is an interesting conversation because I grew up with the philosophy "get it right in camera". For digital, that would include all the jpg settings, right?

I'm about a 90-95% HEIF shooter. I switched to Heif probably a couple years ago. The programs that I use for editing can handle the images- Apple Photos, Photomator, Nitro, and Luminar Neo.

The only issue is when loading the image into the edit mode in Apple Photos, I usually get the circular loading icon pin the bottom right corner, and it takes a moment to load. I had found something a while ago online that HEIF can take a few seconds longer to load compared to JPG in Apple Photos.

 

[HeavyDuty]

That’s actually the goal with my Fuji gear - the chrome experience where you get it right in camera and do minimal post. I’m a risk manager, though so I shoot raw + JPG just in case and file the raws away for problem cases - which hasn’t happened yet.

I wish that Apple iPadOS would support Fuji HEIF so I could do everything on my iPad, I’m restricted to JPG due to this.

I have lots of X-T5 HEIFs in my iPad from a recent trip through the Rockies. Photos works with them. It's the latest iPad A16 base model (not a Pro), running iOS 18.6. Which version do you have?

Interesting - I noticed this just a few weeks ago when I got my X100VI. Mine is an older iPad 9th Gen (for some reason I thought it was an Pro) also running iPadOS 18.6. I’ll try again tomorrow.

Now it works on my iPad - I wonder why it didn’t before? I believe I had an iPadOS update recently, but I keep it up to date so unless it’s a recent addition…