How many of you prefered two versions of X-T50 as here

[mahidoes]

I wish Fuji had given us two versions of the X-T50.

Common features

• X-Processor 5
• IBIS
• NP-W235 Battery
• Everything that came with the X-T50, except the film SIM dial
• Instead of the film simulation dial, there is either an ISO dial or a customizable unlabeled dial

X-T50r (possibly slightly higher priced):

• Features a new 40MP sensor, similar to the X-T5

X-T50 (possibly slightly lower priced):

• Equipped with a 24MP sensor, akin to the X-S20

Although I appreciate traditional controls, I’ll be purchasing the X-S20 for these reasons:

1. Newer Battery:
2. Lower Resolution with Comparable IQ: It meets my image quality needs without wasting storage space.
3. No Film SIM Dial:

Perhaps we’ll see these improvements in the X-T60r and X-T60, equipped with the X-Processor 6—an overhaul that might address the current autofocus challenges. What’s your opinion on this?

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[MJ_Photo38]

It makes sense to make two version of the same camera when the camera in question is the flagship, or a higher end camera.

I don't really see the appeal of doing two versions of the X-T50 when the X-S20 exists.

Fujifilm has enough cameras in its lineup to be confusing to beginners as it is.

 

[io_bg]

I wish Fuji had given us two versions of the X-T50.

Common features

• X-Processor 5
• IBIS
• NP-W235 Battery
• Everything that came with the X-T50, except the film SIM dial
• Instead of the film simulation dial, there is either an ISO dial or a customizable unlabeled dial

X-T50r (possibly slightly higher priced):

• Features a new 40MP sensor, similar to the X-T5

X-T50 (possibly slightly lower priced):

• Equipped with a 24MP sensor, akin to the X-S20

Although I appreciate traditional controls, I’ll be purchasing the X-S20 for these reasons:

1. Newer Battery:
2. Lower Resolution with Comparable IQ: It meets my image quality needs without wasting storage space.
3. No Film SIM Dial:

Perhaps we’ll see these improvements in the X-T60r and X-T60, equipped with the X-Processor 6—an overhaul that might address the current autofocus challenges. What’s your opinion on this?

I agree that Fuji already has too many cameras in its lineup.

As a X-T30 user, I'm also more likely to upgrade to the X-S20 at some point in the future (and not the X-T50).

So while I'm disappointed the X-T50 is not what I hoped it would be, Fuji has done a good job at differentiating the two cameras. Something that wasn't true for the X-T30 (II) and X-S10, for example.

 

[David5833]

The film simulations dial probably wouldn't stop me from buying an X-T50 because it has so many other redeeming qualities, but I would most likely never use film simulations and I would forever be annoyed by it.

 

[Northern_Amateur]

I didn’t see the point of the film sim dial and then I bought the camera…

If you are only ever going to shoot raw then I can see why you wouldn’t want the dial. I’ve set up rapid access to the film sim options on my X-T5, but the X-T5- is a smaller form factor and it makes sense to have buttons and dials for the main functions you are targeting rather than having them in the touch screen for example.

As for the file sizes, the film sim dial targets this very much toward jpeg shooting. Raw is still there, but it doesn’t have to be used. Overall I really like the X-T50 and it has taught me how to make better use of my X-T5.

Agree with the posters in this thread, Fuji are providing a lot of choice across their range. There”s almost micro-targeting of different user segments.

 

[Clive99]

It makes sense to make two version of the same camera when the camera in question is the flagship, or a higher end camera.

I don't really see the appeal of doing two versions of the X-T50 when the X-S20 exists.

Fujifilm has enough cameras in its lineup to be confusing to beginners as it is.

..and i see no sense to a XT50 with 40MP and bigger battery. That's called an XT5 - and it's a great camera.

I've updated and now use an XT5 and XT50. Great combo. Still no use for the film sim dial from me - would love the opportunity to reprogram it to something useful for raw shooters. Key thing for me is to keep the physical size as small as possible or you might as well get an XT5 as the price gap is much smaller now.

 

[Northern_Amateur]

It makes sense to make two version of the same camera when the camera in question is the flagship, or a higher end camera.

I don't really see the appeal of doing two versions of the X-T50 when the X-S20 exists.

Fujifilm has enough cameras in its lineup to be confusing to beginners as it is.

..and i see no sense to a XT50 with 40MP and bigger battery. That's called an XT5 - and it's a great camera.

I've updated and now use an XT5 and XT50. Great combo. Still no use for the film sim dial from me - would love the opportunity to reprogram it to something useful for raw shooters. Key thing for me is to keep the physical size as small as possible or you might as well get an XT5 as the price gap is much smaller now.

This is very true. They’ve reduced the discount on the X-T5 in the UK, so it isn’t quite as close as it was, but there was only £200 in it at one point.



For me the point of the X-T50 is the more compact size and slightly reduced weight. It is a great companion to an X-T5. Having both of those and an X100V does squeeze the X100V. I’m seriously considering letting mine go as the value is nearly what I paid for it several years ago.

 

[jonikon]

I predict you will really appreciate the more practical functionality of the X-S20 controls, especially the Fn dial and the four Custom settings options. You will also appreciate the deeper more functional grip, (no added heavy grips necessary).
After going from the X-T2 to the X-S10, I really can't see myself ever going back to the "traditional" controls of the X-T50 or a any X--Tx camera for that matter. I shoot primarily in Aperture mode with Auto ISO, so the Shutter and ISO dials of the X-Tx cameras are essential decorative for my use. I admit that the X-Txx and X-Tx bodies are more attractive looking than the X-Sxx, bodies, but I'm looking for a photography tool in a camera body, not a fashion accessory with less useful controls.

I'm just going to say it. Fujifilm goofed when they put the Film simulation dial on the X-T50. It should have been a Function (Fn), dial that could have done all that the Film Sim dial does and so much more. Anyone who owns an X--S10/20 knows what I'm talking about.

 

[xtm]

Would love to have 3 versions actually.

-One with black film simulation dial

-One with silver film simulation dial

-One with TWO simulation dials (left and right side) so it's accessible anytime

 

[jonikon]

I wish Fuji had given us two versions of the X-T50.

Common features

• X-Processor 5
• IBIS
• NP-W235 Battery
• Everything that came with the X-T50, except the film SIM dial
• Instead of the film simulation dial, there is either an ISO dial or a customizable unlabeled dial

X-T50r (possibly slightly higher priced):

• Features a new 40MP sensor, similar to the X-T5

X-T50 (possibly slightly lower priced):

• Equipped with a 24MP sensor, akin to the X-S20

Although I appreciate traditional controls, I’ll be purchasing the X-S20 for these reasons:

1. Newer Battery:
2. Lower Resolution with Comparable IQ: It meets my image quality needs without wasting storage space.
3. No Film SIM Dial:

Perhaps we’ll see these improvements in the X-T60r and X-T60, equipped with the X-Processor 6—an overhaul that might address the current autofocus challenges. What’s your opinion on this?

I agree that Fuji already has too many cameras in its lineup.

As a X-T30 user, I'm also more likely to upgrade to the X-S20 at some point in the future (and not the X-T50).

So while I'm disappointed the X-T50 is not what I hoped it would be, Fuji has done a good job at differentiating the two cameras. Something that wasn't true for the X-T30 (II) and X-S10, for example.

I don't understand your last statement. There is a lot of differentiation between the X-T30(iI) and the X-S10. The X-S10 has totally different body style, totally different control layout and the addition of IBIS compared to the X-T30.

 

[mahidoes]

Clive99 wrote:

i see no sense to a XT50 with 40MP and bigger battery. That's called an XT5 - and it's a great camera.

Yes I agree to this very valid point

Features

• NP-W235 Battery
• Instead of the film simulation dial, there is either an ISO dial or a customizable unlabeled dial
• 24MP sensor with X-Processor 5 as in X-S20

How many would have loved if X-T50 came like this instead? I would have grabbed one now.

 

[jonikon]

Clive99 wrote:

i see no sense to a XT50 with 40MP and bigger battery. That's called an XT5 - and it's a great camera.

Yes I agree to this very valid point

Features

• NP-W235 Battery
• Instead of the film simulation dial, there is either an ISO dial or a customizable unlabeled dial
• 24MP sensor with X-Processor 5 as in X-S20

How many would have loved if X-T50 came like this instead? I would have grabbed one now.

And a lower price would have been welcome as well!

 

[mahidoes]

I predict you will really appreciate the more practical functionality of the X-S20 controls, especially the Fn dial and the four Custom settings options. You will also appreciate the deeper more functional grip, (no added heavy grips necessary).
After going from the X-T2 to the X-S10, I really can't see myself ever going back to the "traditional" controls of the X-T50 or a any X--Tx camera for that matter. I shoot primarily in Aperture mode with Auto ISO, so the Shutter and ISO dials of the X-Tx cameras are essential decorative for my use. I admit that the X-Txx and X-Tx bodies are more attractive looking than the X-Sxx, bodies, but I'm looking for a photography tool in a camera body, not a fashion accessory with less useful controls.

I'm just going to say it. Fujifilm goofed when they put the Film simulation dial on the X-T50. It should have been a Function (Fn), dial that could have done all that the Film Sim dial does and so much more. Anyone who owns an X--S10/20 knows what I'm talking about.

I’ve used Canon cameras before, but when I switched to Fuji, it was quite a departure from the traditional controls. Surprisingly, though, I grew to appreciate it.

Next month, I’m planning to buy the X-S20. The reason? Well, the X-T50 has an older battery, a high megapixel count (with the same image quality outcome), and that film simulation dial that can’t be customized.

However, as I move to the X-S20, I’ll miss those familiar traditional controls. In the X-T50, there’s an unnecessary film simulation dial, while in the X-S20, there’s an equally unnecessary mode control for my taste.

Still, the X-S20 wins out for me due to the better battery life and the 24MP sensor. I do wish the X-S20 had retained some of those traditional controls, or alternatively, that the X-T50 had a newer battery, 24MP resolution, and an ISO dial instead of the film simulation dial. That way, I’d have happily settled for either.

The X-S20 seems tailored for those transitioning from other camera systems with the familiar PSAM dial. So, reluctantly, I’m back in the PASM world.

As for body design and grip, I’m not too fussed. Practicality matters more, but I won’t say no to a touch of vintage style and a compact form factor.

 

[mahidoes]

I reckon the price is alright, but I can’t help thinking it would’ve been better spent accommodating a newer battery rather than opting for the 40MP sensor.

 

[io_bg]

I reckon the price is alright, but I can’t help thinking it would’ve been better spent accommodating a newer battery rather than opting for the 40MP sensor.

The new battery would require a larger camera. And size is one of the main differentiators between the X-T5 and X-T50.

 

[RobRoy22]

I predict you will really appreciate the more practical functionality of the X-S20 controls, especially the Fn dial and the four Custom settings options. You will also appreciate the deeper more functional grip, (no added heavy grips necessary).
After going from the X-T2 to the X-S10, I really can't see myself ever going back to the "traditional" controls of the X-T50 or a any X--Tx camera for that matter. I shoot primarily in Aperture mode with Auto ISO, so the Shutter and ISO dials of the X-Tx cameras are essential decorative for my use. I admit that the X-Txx and X-Tx bodies are more attractive looking than the X-Sxx, bodies, but I'm looking for a photography tool in a camera body, not a fashion accessory with less useful controls.

I'm just going to say it. Fujifilm goofed when they put the Film simulation dial on the X-T50. It should have been a Function (Fn), dial that could have done all that the Film Sim dial does and so much more. Anyone who owns an X--S10/20 knows what I'm talking about.

I understand your point, and why you and many others see it as a mis-step. And I basically agree with you, although I haven’t actually used an X-T50. But it was clearly a conscious decision by Fujifilm to attract and appeal to a different type of user, and broaden their user base. We will see in time if it’s a feature which they continue, or modify. Fujifilm offer a lot of choice. But Fuji fans would like a customised product which matches their precise wishes and methods

 

[biza43]

We can all discuss about "what ifs". In my case, I wish all new Fuji cameras would feature the same (new) battery. Much improved autonomy and no need to carry two different kinds of batteries.

As for the rest, there are plenty of cameras from Fuji to choose what best suits each individual. With the certainty that this or that detail will not be to our complete satisfaction.

 

[mahidoes]

I wish all new Fuji cameras would feature the same (new) battery. Much improved autonomy and no need to carry two different kinds of batteries.

Yeah.

As for the rest, there are plenty of cameras from Fuji to choose what best suits each individual. With the certainty that this or that detail will not be to our complete satisfaction.

Moreover other than these nuances i want them to do an overhaul in AF.

 

[Jeff Biscuits]

I understand your point, and why you and many others see it as a mis-step. And I basically agree with you, although I haven’t actually used an X-T50. But it was clearly a conscious decision by Fujifilm to attract and appeal to a different type of user, and broaden their user base.

Completely agree. The film sim dial is not for the sort of user who inhabits the DPR Fuji Forum; it’s for a lot of other people, who have no interest in this or any other forum.

What Fuji need to do, though, is get their house in order with regard to recipes. Those of us who used the old custom settings model for image styles have been let down by the new custom settings model, and those who come to Fuji because of the film sim dial may quickly find that it falls short by not setting their other recipe parameters. The film sim dial is, I think, at its heart a really good direction to take things in, but it misses the mark.

As to whether I’d want two versions of the X-T50 with different sensors? No, I don’t think that makes any sense from a product point of view. (Not that I’m an X-Txx buyer anyway.) I suspect the X-H2s was created solely to increase Fuji’s appeal to sports and wildlife photographers; a similar sibling product approach at the low end doesn’t draw in any obvious new customers.

 

[RobRoy22]

I understand your point, and why you and many others see it as a mis-step. And I basically agree with you, although I haven’t actually used an X-T50. But it was clearly a conscious decision by Fujifilm to attract and appeal to a different type of user, and broaden their user base.

Completely agree. The film sim dial is not for the sort of user who inhabits the DPR Fuji Forum; it’s for a lot of other people, who have no interest in this or any other forum.

What Fuji need to do, though, is get their house in order with regard to recipes. Those of us who used the old custom settings model for image styles have been let down by the new custom settings model, and those who come to Fuji because of the film sim dial may quickly find that it falls short by not setting their other recipe parameters. The film sim dial is, I think, at its heart a really good direction to take things in, but it misses the mark.

As to whether I’d want two versions of the X-T50 with different sensors? No, I don’t think that makes any sense from a product point of view. (Not that I’m an X-Txx buyer anyway.) I suspect the X-H2s was created solely to increase Fuji’s appeal to sports and wildlife photographers; a similar sibling product approach at the low end doesn’t draw in any obvious new customers.

Yep. Agree with you.