Help with scanning – Mysterious Residue on Epson V850 Pro

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Hi everyone,

I hope you can help me make sense of some mysterious residue I’m noticing on my scanner glass—and some surprising results from a small experiment I did.

The Issue

When digitizing photos with my Epson V850 Pro, I’ve noticed a very fine layer of residue appearing on the scanner glass when I lift my photos. It seems like it’s coming off the photos themselves like surface smudges (they are 6x4 prints from the 70s, 80s and 90s). It’s extremely difficult to see the residue, but when I bend over the scanner with a strong headlamp, I can spot it after removing many of my photos. Neither my girlfriend or me can see the residue when we look at the scanner from the side or without the direct light on it.

I’ve tried wiping the scanner glass with a microfiber cloth, but it feels like I’m just spreading the residue around instead of removing it, I still see some patterns from the residue —kind of like when you clean your glasses with only a microfiber cloth and without using lens cleaner, you see some patterns. The smudges don’t fully disappear, and I’m left with small streaks or marks on the glass.

Key Questions

For those of you who clean your scanners due to dirt or residue buildup with glasscleaner or alochol:
  1. Do you clean it because you’ve noticed that leftover residue makes future scans blurry?
  2. Or is it mainly to prevent the next physical photos from picking up dirt from the scanner glass?
  3. Or is the only reason you clean it that you see residue with your eyes and just by principal wants to remove it?
I’m asking because I’m concerned that spreading this residue with a microfiber cloth and the scannerglass having some patterns from that could lead to blurry scans or other unwanted artifacts. Have any of you experienced that the next scans have become more blurry?

My Experiment

To test whether residue actually affects scan quality, I deliberately put fingerprints on one side of the scanner glass and compared a scan in 2400 DPI between the clean and dirty sides. The fingerprints were thick and greasy—and I guess more visible than the subtle residue left by my photos after I’ve been rubbing a microfiber cloth on it (the spots from the picture). Surprisingly, I couldn’t see any difference between the scan from the clean side and the one from the fingerprint-covered side. My test scan was of a printed photo in 600DPI and I could clearly zoom in on the ink dots on both images and it didn’t seem blurry. Which I find very weird.

I did read something about the depth of field being so narrow on a scanner that it might not pick up greasy fingers on the glass unlike a camera lens on which you need to clean it with glasscleaner or lenscleaner if you see residue/grease.

What to do?

The reason this is important to me is that my girlfriend is very careful with her dear family photos and doesn’t feel comfortable placing them on a scanner that has been cleaned with alcohol or glass cleaner because she’s afraid and feels like that would leave marks/patterns on the scanner glass kind of like when you wash a window with window cleaner you see marks/patterns/stripes from the liquid in the shapes you dragged the cloth you used. And she’s afraid that those patterns will be visible on the scans and if the scan will seem more blurry.

Some photographers using the same flatbed scanner tells us they are only using a microfiber cloth to remove dirt and not any liquid, but we find it very weird if the scan of the pictures won't become blurry, when the glass has patterns from residue. We’re trying to balance keeping the scanner clean while also protecting the photos.

Our main concerns are:
  • Are we damaging future photos by placing them on a scanner with spread-out residue from the picture before?
  • Should we expect the scans to become more and more blurry over time due to buildup if we only use a microfiber cloth, even though we didn’t see a difference in our test?
  • If residue is a problem, what’s the best way to clean it without using harsh chemicals?
Lastly, I’ve noticed some strange grey/blue marks on a couple of my scanned images that I can’t quite explain. They appear on the same aera and in similar patterns in the scan eventhough I move the photos around on the scanner, and they are not on the actual photo. Some of it disappeared from the next scan when I rubbed the microfiber cloth on the glass and placed the photo back on and scanned it again. It made me feel like it was the residue from the previous picture that became visible on this scan - since some of it disappeared when I tried rubbing the microfiber cloth on the scanner and then placed the picture once again.





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Has anyone else experienced this? Could it be related to the residue, or might it be something else?

Thanks so much in advance for any insights!
 
I haven’t got a V850, I’ve got a V550, but I clean the scanner glass using Zeiss glasses cleaner cloths.
 
Hi everyone,

I hope you can help me make sense of some mysterious residue I’m noticing on my scanner glass—and some surprising results from a small experiment I did.

The Issue

When digitizing photos with my Epson V850 Pro, I’ve noticed a very fine layer of residue appearing on the scanner glass when I lift my photos. It seems like it’s coming off the photos themselves like surface smudges (they are 6x4 prints from the 70s, 80s and 90s). It’s extremely difficult to see the residue, but when I bend over the scanner with a strong headlamp, I can spot it after removing many of my photos. Neither my girlfriend or me can see the residue when we look at the scanner from the side or without the direct light on it.

I’ve tried wiping the scanner glass with a microfiber cloth, but it feels like I’m just spreading the residue around instead of removing it, I still see some patterns from the residue —kind of like when you clean your glasses with only a microfiber cloth and without using lens cleaner, you see some patterns. The smudges don’t fully disappear, and I’m left with small streaks or marks on the glass.

Key Questions

For those of you who clean your scanners due to dirt or residue buildup with glasscleaner or alochol:
  1. Do you clean it because you’ve noticed that leftover residue makes future scans blurry?
  2. Or is it mainly to prevent the next physical photos from picking up dirt from the scanner glass?
  3. Or is the only reason you clean it that you see residue with your eyes and just by principal wants to remove it?
I’m asking because I’m concerned that spreading this residue with a microfiber cloth and the scannerglass having some patterns from that could lead to blurry scans or other unwanted artifacts. Have any of you experienced that the next scans have become more blurry?
I regularly scan a variety of colour and B&W prints, and I’ve never noticed any residue on them, nor has there been any residue on the scanner surface. Sometimes there’s dust from minor contamination. I believe that you are incorrect when assuming that scanners have a very tiny depth of field; this is easily tested.

I’m troubled by your practice of scrubbing the scanner with a micro cloth without a liquid cleaner. I use facial tissues after lightly moistening the surface with spray-on lens cleaner. This procedure is also used to clean the touch-surfaces of iPads and Phones. -Beware of tissues that are impregnated with essential oils. (They aren’t “essential” BTW, just another scam).

Only trouble I had with contamination was courtesy of a colony of tiny ants that found the slightly warm interior of the scanner to be a handy incubator! -Had to toss the scanner.
 
I have experienced the "residu" once before. Old pictures can get sort of "sticky". Perhaps due to chemicals that were used and coming out, and maybe due to the oil substances present on your fingers.

Before you continue scanning other photos, I would advise you to first clean the glass plate. I would use a dedicated glasses cleaner. English being not my native language I'm not sure if this is the correct description. What I mean is a spray to clean glasses or camera lenses. For example the one being used in this video:

Buy a new microfiber cloth if you don't have one, or make sure you have a clean one available. Put the spray on the cloth (not too much) and gently clean the glass plate of your scanner. Do not push on the cloth. Before you do this, make sure there aren't any (dust) particles on the glass plate. To be sure just softly blow on the plate. If there are particles on the plate and you clean it, you might rub them in and damage the glass. So be careful.

About the strange grey/blue marks. I think it has to do with the residu. This could cause the photo not to be exactly flat which means at these points the photo is not touching the glass plate. After first cleaning the glass plate, try again but this time put a little pressure on the scanner lid. Again, push soft, not too much pressure. This will cause every part of the photo to be in touch with the glass plate and might solve the issue with the grey/blue marks.

Good luck.
 
I had an Epson that developedc a heavy film on the underside of the glass. I had to remove the top to clean it. IIRC, regular window cleaner worked.
 
I had an Epson that developedc a heavy film on the underside of the glass. I had to remove the top to clean it. IIRC, regular window cleaner worked.
I had the same thing happen with my Microtek Scanmaker 8700. Scans were much improved after cleaning.
 

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