GR users that use an optical viewfinder

jerrysdean43

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I'm back, I sent back the GX7, there was just something I didn't like about it, I think the EFV as being one of them. So I am without a camera other then my aging E-510. So now I am thinking about the GR again with a optical viewfinder or the Fuji X100s. So my question today is how many GR users use an external optical viewfinder and which one is your preference? Thanks for your time.
 
If I had to buy a 28mm finder today I would be looking at the Voigtlander nice size and bright.

But I have a old Nikon RF 28mm finder small round, no frame lines but you can adjust for close up usage by rotating the rear ring around the eyepiece. I also have a Leitz 28mm metal finder enough said bright, clear, bright lines but $$$. And last but not least I have a Koni-Omega finder for the 58mm lens on 6X7 format very bright half the size of the camera (GR) and a 43's format but works in a pinch.

You have lots of choices, new and used..... start looking at cameraquest.

wbill
 
But if you are going to get the wide angle adp for your GR I would be picking up the ricoh GV-1 viewfinder as it will cover both the 28mm and 21mm. If you were just going to be using the GR by itself then the ricoh gv-2 is nice and small but no wider then 28mm. I think both are in stock at B&H and you can look at their site and see pictures of the finders.

wbill
 
You have at least two further alternatives.

One is the Clearviewer. Threads around here discussing it.

Then, longer ago, Tom Caldwell sourced a wire framed viewfinder a bit like the ones that the phohibition Speed Graphic photographers used. I have not seen that mentioned for a while.

And there is a third now I remember. That is fixing a cocktail stick on to something that can slide into the hot shoe. It shows youi where the centre of the frame is pointed and you should be able to remember how a 28mm lens will spread outwards if you use one a lot.

OK?

Tony
 
I'm using a Voigtlander 21/25mm Brightline (see photo below).

And bright it is. Without the WA adapter lens, I am aware that the 25mm FOV will show less than the actual photo but that's not a problem at all, it'll give me a quick composition when doing street shooting.

If, at some time i the future decide to acquire the 21mm lens, I'll have a perfect fit in the VF for it.

After Leica VFs, Voigtlander surely is the best choice and, of course, at a substantially lower price.




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Hi Jerry,

I just finished renting a GR for a week. I have a 21mm Voightlander viewfinder which I used on the camera a lot during that week. Since I wear glasses it's hard to get my eye in close to the viewfinder. This worked in my favor as it made the 21mm very accurate for 28mm framing.

Regards,

Jim
 
Thanks Jerry.

At least you investigated them.

I do find that lateral thinking is often regarded as OT in this forum. Many times I have started out planning to buy product A and finding that a hitherto unknown product B could be better for my needs.

Hence the order I placed on Sunday for the Clearviewer for the new GR that arrived last Wednesday. I have an OVR but I think the CV will be better as it enables me to see the screen and all those nice things like focus confirmation.

The toothpick idea I saw in use by someone shooting with a Sigma DP3M. It is a short demo on YouTube. Fascinating - and he was working with a short telephoto. My GR came with a hotshoe cover. I am certainly going to fit a toothpick to it and see how I get on.

EDIT,

If you don't have a toothpick a nailhead will do.


Tony
 
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I currently use the Panasonic DMW-VF1 viewfinder.

It was designed for the 24mm EFOV of the Panasonic LX3/5/7 series. It has a 3:2 brightline, which I find matches up perfectly with the 28mm EFOV of the GR, when shooting at around 2 meters which is where I'm at most of the time.

Prior to this, I had the Voigtlander 21/25 (the metal one) which I lost when out shooting. It worked great when I had the 21mm EFOV adapter for my GRDIV, but I found that the 25mm brightlines were very hard to see, so it was a bit hit and miss if I wasn't using the wide-adapter.

Between those 2, I far prefer the Panasonic VF. It should be cheaper, it's pretty bright, it's slightly smaller than the CV 21/25 from what I remember, and for my style of shooting (usually snap focus at 2meters), I find that it matches up with the 28mm EFOV perfectly. I had to scratch off the ugly "Lumix" text on the top though. :)

Cheers.
 
I bought a Voiglander 28mm finder (from Camerquest--good personal service from Mr. Gandy) about 6 weeks ago before leaving for a trip to central Europe. Before the trip, I would have been among those users who said that I need some viewfinder and was uncomfortable holding the camera out to compose on the 3" LCD on the back of the camera.

I was a little disconcerted at first by the fact that the image within the frame lines of the finder was only a good approximation of what was actually captured, but it was someting I eventually accepted and found the finder to be quite useful. The viewfinder seems well built, looks great on the camera, is clear and bright, and has easy to see frame lines. In my opinion, using a finder on the GR has a few significant downsides. First, with the vf on, I can't easily slip the otherwise pocketable GR into my pant pocket or a small jacket pocket. As you know, one of the great joys of the GR is to have available a tiny camera capable of taking high quality images which you can easily carry around without something hanging over your neck or shoulder. Second, although it fit snuggly on the external flash mount, I discovered that when shoving the camera into a tight pocket with the finder on it could come loose if I was not careful (there is no lock on this finder, although there may be one on other finders). So, the finder became a little piece of equipment (small and light, but relatively valuable) to carry around separately from the camera and worry about losing, damaging, dropping, etc., and I found towards the end of my trip that I left it off the camera more often than not. The lcd screen on the GR is excellent and I never had a problem with visability, although during my trip it was typically overcast and not bright sun on the screen.

My advice to anyone who just bought the camera is that the GR is an excellent, highly pocketable imaging device and using attachments with it that adversely affect its portability is a negative and you should first try using it for a few weeks without a finder before considering buying one.
 
jerrysdean43 wrote:

I'm back, I sent back the GX7, there was just something I didn't like about it, I think the EFV as being one of them. So I am without a camera other then my aging E-510. So now I am thinking about the GR again with a optical viewfinder or the Fuji X100s. So my question today is how many GR users use an external optical viewfinder and which one is your preference? Thanks for your time.
 
Thanks everyone for your input for now I have decided to go with the GR, (delivered today) and a ClearViewer, (thanks Tom), I will probably buy another camera later on, Maybe a Fuji xE-2, EP5 with external EFV, or the new Ricoh ILC with EFV when they decide to make one....-)

I will add although I didn't warm up to the GX7 the few JPG's I took with it are wonderful. If I can figure out how to punch up the GR's JPG's I will be a happy man.
 
I'm back, I sent back the GX7, there was just something I didn't like about it, I think the EFV as being one of them. So I am without a camera other then my aging E-510. So now I am thinking about the GR again with a optical viewfinder or the Fuji X100s. So my question today is how many GR users use an external optical viewfinder and which one is your preference? Thanks for your time.
 
I'm back, I sent back the GX7, there was just something I didn't like about it, I think the EFV as being one of them. So I am without a camera other then my aging E-510. So now I am thinking about the GR again with a optical viewfinder or the Fuji X100s. So my question today is how many GR users use an external optical viewfinder and which one is your preference? Thanks for your time.
 
For some years I've sworn I'd never buy a camera without an eye-level viewfinder. Then for some reason I bought a GR, bundled with the Ricoh VF. Every couple months I put it on the camera and look through it. Then I quickly put it away again.

I've never used it for real and probably won't ever. Too much info is lost (exposure data, image live view, adaptability to crop framing) and too much size gained. I'm waiting for the GR III, and meanwhile I'll live happily (more or less) with the GR's LCD.
 
I found a used Leica 21mm - 28mm ovf and bought it late last year. I just sold it last month.

It helped a bit in bright light but it blocks up the hot shoe and you have to ‘chimp’ back and forth between the OVF and the LCD to change or check settings. I was taking pictures of China Beach in Da Nang Vietnam a few months ago. I waa going from OVF to LCD and back constantly to set exposure and focus while trying to decide how to frame the image. That is the moment I decided an OVF is too much trouble.

The unit was very nicely made but expensive. So Lesson learned.

I don’t like EVF’s in general but for me, the GR II really needs one (no doubt at the cost of added weight and higher prices).
 

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