Gitzo leg locks really a problem?

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Tim Fitzharris, in his book "Landscape Photography," writes:

"Avoid Twist Locks: Do not buy tripod legs with concentric twist locks. These devices are not suited for working in sand, mud and water -- home territory of a landscape photographer. Exposed to such outdoor conditions, the leg extensions in a short time stiffen and seize up completely. To keep them working require time-consuming disassembly for cleaning and drying of interior parts. In my experience, all brands, no matter how prestigious, are susceptible to this problem."

This critique sounds plausible on its face. Does anyone have any experience, either pro or con, that the Gitzo locks suffer this problem?

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gollywop

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I used Gitzo and Leitz Tiltalls for years with no such problem. The only reason I switched to Manfrottos with their latch-type locks was a matter of speed, as well as a touch of arthritis. I can be up and shooting with a Manfrotto in the amount of time it takes to extend one leg of a my Gitzo.

That being said, I still think Gitzos are the best tripods I've ever used -- I just wish they would make their models available with latch locks.
 
Material and technology move along.

That said, I shoot landscape and much prefer lever locks.
You get much faster setup, visual confirmation of lock and most important,
something you can operate with wet, freezing fingers.

Trick with going into sand or soft ground is don't take the $1000 tripod.
An old nail for the surf is not a bad idea, I have two.

Course, in the "do as I say not what I do" dept.
I generally abuse the Manfrotto and don't complain
about giving it a bit of TLC later.
At least you have a tool you are used to.

regards, Ron

 
My old Gitzo studex extends to over 12 ft. and yes it has to be kept clean as mentioned. As for my Manfrotto's there nifty latches and levers and centre columns have all broken while in the field.The Gitzo has never failed .I still use both and don't find any major hassles with either system.
 
I think the lever clamp locks like you see on the Bogen/Manfrotto are easier at first, but once you get used to them the Gitzo twist locks are quite fast and I prefer using them. I have a Gitzo CF tripod and an aluminum Bogen/Manfrotto monopod. Personally I don't have a strong dislike for either system... except under some conditions the Bogen/Manfrotto lever clamps can be to loud when you close them. If I'm setting up in a quiet church, or trying to avoid spooking the wildlife I'm out there to photograph, I'd rather have the silent twist locks. The clamps on my Bogen/Manfrotto monopod are very loud by comparison, but maybe it's because of the aluminum... perhaps they are quieter on a CF tripod or monopod.

In my experience twist locks make minor height adjustments much easier since you can slowly unlock a leg section so that it takes a bit of force to slide it up or down. With the lever clamps things are either engaged or they aren't... so you better make sure you have a grip on your gear when you release a clamp to adjust that leg's length.

Once you get used to them the twist locks are just as fast in my opinion (or close enough to where the difference is insignificant). The trick is to extend the middle section and lock it in firmly so it doesn't twist when you unlock the lower section. Don't go as firm on the lower section when you lock it and you'll be able to unlock the lower section without unlocking the middle section. Sounds confusing, but really simple once you do it a few times.

As far as twist locks being more prone to contaminants... that can and does happen... although I don't think it is as common of a problem as the advice you quoted implies. I've photographed on many beaches and never had sand infiltrate the twistlocks. I never laid my tripod down in the sand though. If it happens, here are some instructions on how to clean:
http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/gitzo-maintenance.html

I haven't had any problems with water, but I have yet to submerge my tripod in anything deeper than a few inches. If you submerge your tripod past the first section twist-locks in a particularly muddy or silty body of water I could see that being an issue, but you'd only have to clean the three bottom locks. I can see this being an annoyance with lever clamps as well since the sand could get inside the legs making them more difficult to slide up and down, but they are probably easier to clean. I don't think it's a problem worth worrying about on either system unless you plan to spend a lot of time submerging your tripod in water or mud. Think of all the landscape photographers who use and recommend Gitzo tripods. If this were a larger issue they wouldn't be recommending them. Of course there are other nice tripods and clamps out there as well... including the bogen/manfrottos. Just don't let the twistlocks scare you. There are more important considerations when choosing a tripod.

Sean
 
I've never experienced such problem myself which does not mean this can't happen to you. Actually, even legs with lever locks can suffer from sand or dust, because they also have leg joints. It is common recommendation that after use in harsh environment legs should be disassembled, cleaned, and dried.

I definitely prefer twist locks. Levers might be faster, but from my past experience I find them frequently loose and in need of adjustment, and what is even more boring, they try to catch on everything I move through. Well, may be they were not made by a company of Gitzo quality, who knows. But after I tried Gitzo, I hope to be able to never switch back.
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Vlad
 
I've had my Gitzo for close to 30 years and it's been everywhere and been put in everything. It looks like scrap iron but works perfectly. I have not had a problem with the twist locks. Even though the thing cost more than my camera when I bought it, it's quite inexpensive when you amortize it over decades.
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Leonard Migliore
 
I prefer them myself as well. Never had a major contaminate issue.
 

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