D810 handheld shooting? Why is it even an issue?

[creativedogmedia]

Or....is it? I've read several articles talking about how you have to he super careful when hand-holding shots with the D810. Talking about how it's tough to get tack sharp images unless on a tripod. Why is that? I've had one for two weeks but haven't actually gotten out with it to shoot enough to understand these types of comments. Thx.

 

[Stacey_K]

For pixel peepers only..

 

[KellydenAdel]

Or....is it? I've read several articles talking about how you have to he super careful when hand-holding shots with the D810. Talking about how it's tough to get tack sharp images unless on a tripod. Why is that? I've had one for two weeks but haven't actually gotten out with it to shoot enough to understand these types of comments. Thx.

where did you read that nonsense? I have a D810 I pack everywhere.

several factors are involved,

lens VR? yes or no?

bad hand holding skills???? (this applies to ANY and ALL cameras).

I love big fat HEAVY cameras, theyre naturally MORE stable, obviously

ADD a battery vertical grip to the bottom and it gets even better. Many pros prefer BIG honking cameras , myself included.

Im used to very heavy cameras from photography school and using F4s and Pentax 6x7

 

[michaeladawson]

Or....is it? I've read several articles talking about how you have to he super careful when hand-holding shots with the D810. Talking about how it's tough to get tack sharp images unless on a tripod. Why is that? I've had one for two weeks but haven't actually gotten out with it to shoot enough to understand these types of comments. Thx.

It's not. A higher MP camera will NEVER be worse for hand holding than a lower MP one. Having said that, if you buy a high MP camera and want to take full advantage of all the MP that you paid for (for example, to make 20x30 inch prints) then you have to exercise extra care.

 

[ruifonikon]

Not an issue at all...

 

[romfordbluenose]

Its not an issue but any bad technique is magnified when pixel peeping.

 

[jiayaw]

Haven't used one before but own a D610 and many other dslrs before! I've easily handheld my Olympus e3 (10mp which has same density as 40mp full frame) and my 12mp m4/3 camera (same density as 48mp full frame)

Great results at 100% pixel level even when handheld!

Just need proper camera holding technique! Full frame camera are nowhere as dense as 4/3 nor aps-c sensors for us to worry about that yet! If anything we'll see people complain about hand hold ability for cropped sensors before it happens to full frame.
--

Jiayaw Is Photography

Powered by SmugMug

jiayaw.smugmug.com

Yoko Dam

 

[Osvaldo Cristo]

Or....is it? I've read several articles talking about how you have to he super careful when hand-holding shots with the D810. Talking about how it's tough to get tack sharp images unless on a tripod. Why is that?

BS.

You just need a shutter speed compatible with your lens, handling and subject... but certainly tripod will offer a much more stable platform. I usually went to the "famous" rule 1/FL for minimum shutter if I am handling a VR lens and something around 1/(2*FL) or 1/(3*FL) when possible for lenses without VR. It works for me.

Some examples with hand holding with a tele zoom lens I made yesterday:









































My galleries have several other examples.

Regards,

--
O.Cristo - An Amateur Photographer
Opinions of men are almost as various as their faces - so many men so many minds. B. Franklin

 

[ImageAmateur]

Or....is it? I've read several articles talking about how you have to he super careful when hand-holding shots with the D810. Talking about how it's tough to get tack sharp images unless on a tripod. Why is that? I've had one for two weeks but haven't actually gotten out with it to shoot enough to understand these types of comments. Thx.

D7100, Pentax K3, etc, all with greater pixel density.... I don't think all their users run about with tripods... ;-)

And moreso, because both of those are used much also with telephoto lenses for wildlife etc. Which should require even more shooting care.

So, yes, it gobbledygook. Of course they can be handheld with great results.

--
Wishing You Good Light.

 

[creativedogmedia]

Thanks. I have the battery grip to go along with my ape-like hands and have good technique (handheld was never an issue with a D300 w/grip + SB-800). I just didnt understand why that specifically got called out for this camera just because of the greater resolution. I've been too busy with aerial stuff but hope to get out this week with my setup. Thanks for the replies.

 

[Rick Knepper]

Or....is it? I've read several articles talking about how you have to he super careful when hand-holding shots with the D810. Talking about how it's tough to get tack sharp images unless on a tripod. Why is that? I've had one for two weeks but haven't actually gotten out with it to shoot enough to understand these types of comments. Thx.

Shoot something in your home handheld then shoot the same scene on a tripod. Look at the RAWs at 100%. Tell us what you see.

 

[ScottRH]

For pixel peepers only..

--
Stacey

+1

 

[ImageAmateur]

Thanks. I have the battery grip to go along with my ape-like hands and have good technique (handheld was never an issue with a D300 w/grip + SB-800). I just didnt understand why that specifically got called out for this camera just because of the greater resolution. I've been too busy with aerial stuff but hope to get out this week with my setup. Thanks for the replies.

Great enjoy. As Oswaldo said, it is all about traditional and basic concepts such as shutter speed etc.

Obviously, if someone is intent on shooting low ISO and at f8 and the light is not good, thus shutter speed down, with a telephoto lens especially, there is risk of camera shake. Just as with any camera.

But, that is why the landscape guys love their tripods isn't it?

But, no different concepts than were always used.

 

[lanefAU]

I spent two weeks holidaying in Singapore and Bangkok at the beginning of January and all my D810 photos are handheld and all very sharp at 100%, the only time I have used my tripod was at the water front at the Merlion, but taking night shots in the city, there is no way you can stretch a tripod on the pathway next to the shops, not only too many people around which makes it impossible but it is also a safety issue. You must always keep an eye on your shutter speed.

Just one example, telephoto zoom handled. Taken last year with a consumer lens.

 

[ormdig]

For pixel peepers only..

 

[Simon Garrett]

Or....is it? I've read several articles talking about how you have to he super careful when hand-holding shots with the D810. Talking about how it's tough to get tack sharp images unless on a tripod. Why is that? I've had one for two weeks but haven't actually gotten out with it to shoot enough to understand these types of comments. Thx.

It's not. A higher MP camera will NEVER be worse for hand holding than a lower MP one. Having said that, if you buy a high MP camera and want to take full advantage of all the MP that you paid for (for example, to make 20x30 inch prints) then you have to exercise extra care.

+1

 

[Nexu1]

Or....is it? I've read several articles talking about how you have to he super careful when hand-holding shots with the D810. Talking about how it's tough to get tack sharp images unless on a tripod. Why is that? I've had one for two weeks but haven't actually gotten out with it to shoot enough to understand these types of comments. Thx.

It's not. A higher MP camera will NEVER be worse for hand holding than a lower MP one. Having said that, if you buy a high MP camera and want to take full advantage of all the MP that you paid for (for example, to make 20x30 inch prints) then you have to exercise extra care.

+1

--
Simon

+2

 

[Jay A]

How soon we forget. When the D800 first came out, there were all kinds of problems with it attaining proper focus and one of the suggestions was that since it had such a high MP count, it really should be used on a tripod in order to get the best sharpness out of it. This was basically an excuse to sort of escape the reality that the camera just did not focus very well. Truth is ANY camera will benefit from being used on a tripod, but this does not mean that it is a necessity. The D810 performs very well in the sharpness category and is no more dependent on a tripod to keep images sharp than any other camera.

 

[David314]

Your body has a lot of mass and dampens vibration

i see no problems shooting handheld

depening on the shutter speed, lens size and tripod construction, tripods can introduce their own problems

 

[digital ed]

Or....is it? I've read several articles talking about how you have to he super careful when hand-holding shots with the D810. Talking about how it's tough to get tack sharp images unless on a tripod. Why is that? I've had one for two weeks but haven't actually gotten out with it to shoot enough to understand these types of comments. Thx.

Camera motion while the shutter is open moves the image on the sensor. This can be mitigated with optical stabilization. This statement is true no matter which camera and sensor is being used.

Sensors with high pixel pitch are more sensitive to this effect no matter the sensor size. One can easily calculate the amount of pixel movement over the sensor for a given angular movement of camera and lens with no optical stabilization. Optical stabilization complicates the computation. The longer the shutter is open the more there is image movement over the sensor, resulting in larger blurring of the image at pixel level.

It can also be proven experimentally that even when the camera is mounted on a sturdy tripod, mirror and shutter actuation can cause vibration that moves the image on the sensor and therefore blurs the image at pixel level.

These statements are only meant at understanding the cause of blur at pixel level and do not take into account the observed blur at image magnifications that do not show pixel level resolution or when pixel level resolution is not needed.