D7000 samples

The first two look like my E-P2 ISO 6400. About two stop advantage. If the E-5 has a stop over the Pen I think we'll be fine for awhile.
 
All these samples start to look the same after a while. These look smeary at iso 6400, but usable for a small print. I imagine the noise reduction was working fully. Not sure if you can turn it off completely. Reminds me a little of Lx3 jpegs at iso 800.

Iso 1600 looks ok, not great. I'm sure carefully processed in raw it will look a lot better.

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John Krumm
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Strangely enough, I find the E-5 samples up to 3200 better, less noise and more details. 6400 and up looks better on the Nikon, but 6400 seems still barely usable and 25600 looks quite bad.
 
I think it has to do with the fact that the E5 samples have noise reduction off, and the Nikon's clearly have it on. More details for the E5, less noise for the Nikon.

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John Krumm
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Lacks detail and the images are still full of noise. I'm really not impressed. Even the ISO 800 image looks bad. I don't know if the camera is soft or if the images are OOF, but in either case it's not good.
 
their 6400 is no more usable than ours
hope the RAWS are better for those that were jumping ship for this thing

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Riley

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Specs are one thing, pictures are another.

At the end of the day the E5 will be competitive with these offerings, and probably better in a lot of ways.

I don't know why Nikon insisted in jumping into the megapixel war. They had a fantastic thing going on with 12 megapixels.
 
Specs are one thing, pictures are another.

At the end of the day the E5 will be competitive with these offerings, and probably better in a lot of ways.

I don't know why Nikon insisted in jumping into the megapixel war. They had a fantastic thing going on with 12 megapixels.
DPR staff will be happy, no need to review now some pictures are out :)
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It's always been an issue for me with Nikon when I've used their products. I like the external white balance thing on the E3.
 
These Canikon DSLRs are starting to look more and more like P&S compacts...

ISO3200 is not good IMO, sure, there's not too much noise per se, but it's so quite moisaic-y and pastel looking.

And to think some jumped ship for that , hahaha, I'll take E-5's IQ over D7000 any day.
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Marin
 
Yes, they did. I have yet to see a D7000 image that wows me, and there are a number of them out there. The increase in megapixels really doesn't get you any extra detail you can see in most prints (actually, you might end up with less detail if the sample images are any indication), and if you really need the extra detail, there are cameras for that (the Sigma SD1, for example).

It seems Nikon went for quantity at the expense of quality. Great for bragging rights, but bad for images.
I don't know why Nikon insisted in jumping into the megapixel war. They had a fantastic thing going on with 12 megapixels.
 
The only thing that concerns me about the E5 is shadow noise. I do hope the people taking the images in question messed up the gain setting, but shadows appear to be the E5s only weakness.
their 6400 is no more usable than ours
hope the RAWS are better for those that were jumping ship for this thing

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Riley

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To be fair the noise is does not look good but however took those shots had the DT’s look at the guy with the spectacles and especially the screws. The detail is there but there is motion blur.
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Or whatever color it would be for Olympus.

Anyone looking at these objectively has to say that they're remarkable.

The best way to evaluate noise is in the dark areas and the shadows (backpack, man's coat, man's jacket, etc.) What I see there is that:
  1. the luminance noise is very well controlled - even at 6400 ISO. I'd say it's noticeably better (but not markedly better) than the E-5 samples we've seen.
  2. there is a fair amount of color noise - probably exacerbated by the horribly mixed, convention floor lighting. Color noise, however, is easier to "clean up" than luminance noise. So, I'd think with Nikon's NR turned up these would look much better
  3. I can't seem to find anything in focus - so everything looks soft and lacks detail. I don't know if that's a problem with the operator, the camera (AF), or the lens. I expect the E-5 with a decent lens and the new, weaker AA filter, and processing would do a much better job here.
What is great is that these images are barely (if at all) better (noisewise) than the E-5 samples. And Zuiko glass paired with the new resolution enhancement efforts seems to entirely negate the D7000s additional pixels.

The problem is that we're comparing Oly's flagship camera with Nikon's consumer-grade offering.

Sure would be nice if Oly had a consumer-grade 4/3 camera that stacked up this well! :)

Ralph
 
look at the hair detail
if you can find any...

this is not about what noise you can see, its about what detail survives NR

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Riley

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very smeared

or NR gone wild

I'd be interested in working with the raws with as much NR turned off and use some real NR tools on them before any valid comparison could be made

If my PP NR results looked like that, I'd be thinking I'd have to tone it done a LOT.

But I suppose what looks good on a noise graph is what counts these days.
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