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[Babine]

I am thinking of updating my laptop (normal home use and hobby Photoshop) and considering the Asus Zenbook S16 with an OLED touchscreen, AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, 32GB ram and AMD Radeon 890M iGPU with Windows 11.

Any suggestions/opinions? Integrated card as above versus an independent one for my type of use?

Appreciated. Thanks.

 

[Barleyman]

I am thinking of updating my laptop (normal home use and hobby Photoshop) and considering the Asus Zenbook S16 with an OLED touchscreen, AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, 32GB ram and AMD Radeon 890M iGPU with Windows 11.

Any suggestions/opinions? Integrated card as above versus an independent one for my type of use?

Appreciated. Thanks.

I have looked at various laptops, and the one item I pay attention to is the performance of advanced editing tools (e.g. denoise), which are usually driven by the GPU used. Finding good benchmarks is difficult, depending on the configuration.

If the integrated GPU doesn't cut it, then you need to know what GPU card can you install in the laptop.

I run a fairly old Desktop, but with SSDs, 40 GB RAM, and an Nvidia GPU, it runs LR/PS just fine.

 

[BobKnDP]

I am thinking of updating my laptop (normal home use and hobby Photoshop) and considering the Asus Zenbook S16 with an OLED touchscreen, AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, 32GB ram and AMD Radeon 890M iGPU with Windows 11.

Any suggestions/opinions? Integrated card as above versus an independent one for my type of use?

Appreciated. Thanks.

I have looked at various laptops, and the one item I pay attention to is the performance of advanced editing tools (e.g. denoise), which are usually driven by the GPU used. Finding good benchmarks is difficult, depending on the configuration.

If the integrated GPU doesn't cut it, then you need to know what GPU card can you install in the laptop.

I run a fairly old Desktop, but with SSDs, 40 GB RAM, and an Nvidia GPU, it runs LR/PS just fine.

Most laptops can't have a discrete GPU added. Very much unlike desktop PCs. Most discrete GPUs are soldered to the laptop's motherboard.

There is a standard for pluggable GPUs, but it's rarely used. I'm not sure that any maker would sell a laptop with such a socket but with no discrete GPU installed.

I expect that a Radeon 890M would support Photoshop. Whether it would be tolerably fast with the few AI features in Photoshop (I presume we're speaking of a PS CC subscription), I don't know.

 

[Lan]

I can recommend the Asus ProArt PX13, if a smaller screen size is ok? Mine has an nVidia 4060RTX and an AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX. It's faster than my old desktop (i7 RTX2060), has a lovely OLED screen, seems well built, and runs reasonably cool and quiet.

Not sure which features you need in Photoshop, but I would recommend a discrete RTX level GPU for image processing these days.

 

[Kaj E]

I do not think the Radeon 890M is sufficient for the present features of PS, L,rC and ACR. It is supposed to be on the level of a GTX 1650 laptop GPU. I had a stronger GTX card on my previous laptop and it was way to slow for the PS and ACR features 2.5 years ago, would be worse on the present versions.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-890M-Benchmarks-and-Specs.843536.0.html

I would go with a laptop with at least a RTX 4070 laptop version. Better if you want it to be useful for more than 2-3 years. AI is advancing rapidly also in Photo editing.

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[s_grins]

For myself I'd buy this puppy

Also, buying from BHphoto I do not pay tax ;-)

 

[Gato Amarillo]

It is my understanding that some Photoshop/ACR/Lightroom features require a separate graphics card. You can find GPU recommendations and requirements on the Adobe website.

Gato

 

[LarryRC]

Consider a mac which comes with unified cpu/gpu memory.

 

[Babine]

I am thinking of updating my laptop (normal home use and hobby Photoshop) and considering the Asus Zenbook S16 with an OLED touchscreen, AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, 32GB ram and AMD Radeon 890M iGPU with Windows 11.

Any suggestions/opinions? Integrated card as above versus an independent one for my type of use?

Appreciated. Thanks.

Thanks to all of you. Your opinions were considered and with further research, I went for the ASUS ProArt P16 16" 4K OLED Touchscreen Copilot+ PC Laptop (AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370/32GB RAM/1TB SSD/RTX 4060) mainly .. for the independent graphics card.

Appreciated!

 

[dbr49x]

For myself I'd buythis puppy

Also, buying from BHphoto I do not pay tax ;-)

Dang, that's a nice machine at a nice price. Not a big fan of laptops, but ...

 

[Barleyman]

I am thinking of updating my laptop (normal home use and hobby Photoshop) and considering the Asus Zenbook S16 with an OLED touchscreen, AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, 32GB ram and AMD Radeon 890M iGPU with Windows 11.

Any suggestions/opinions? Integrated card as above versus an independent one for my type of use?

Appreciated. Thanks.

Thanks to all of you. Your opinions were considered and with further research, I went for the ASUS ProArt P16 16" 4K OLED Touchscreen Copilot+ PC Laptop (AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370/32GB RAM/1TB SSD/RTX 4060) mainly .. for the independent graphics card.

Appreciated!

Let us know how it runs! Hopefully like a scalded ape. ;-)

 

[tbcass]

I am thinking of updating my laptop (normal home use and hobby Photoshop) and considering the Asus Zenbook S16 with an OLED touchscreen, AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, 32GB ram and AMD Radeon 890M iGPU with Windows 11.

Any suggestions/opinions? Integrated card as above versus an independent one for my type of use?

Appreciated. Thanks.

I don't know of any Laptops that don't have an integrated non replaceable GPU so It's important that you buy one with the best GPU available.

 

[Babine]

Will do. Should be fun!

 

[s_grins]

I am thinking of updating my laptop (normal home use and hobby Photoshop) and considering the Asus Zenbook S16 with an OLED touchscreen, AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, 32GB ram and AMD Radeon 890M iGPU with Windows 11.

Any suggestions/opinions? Integrated card as above versus an independent one for my type of use?

Appreciated. Thanks.

I don't know of any Laptops that don't have an integrated non replaceable GPU so It's important that you buy one with the best GPU available.

Tom, this a matter of terminology. Laptops may have integrated GPU as an integral part of MoBo, or dedicated GPU welded/soldered into MoBo. In both cases GPU is non-replaceable.

 

[BobKnDP]

Nerdy content follows:

I had to hunt around a bit, but I found this:

Mobile PCI Express Module - Wikipedia

I was surprised that MXM graphics cards are listed through the nVidia RTX 4000 series.

But I still think that buying a laptop with the possibility of upgrading its GPU would be highly unusual.

Some people here have used eGPUs (external GPUs). They're expensive. But they give the option of using a high-powered GPU at home while having a low-powered laptop away.

Some of us would simply use a laptop plus a desktop PC.

 

[GodSpeaks]

I don't know of any Laptops that don't have an integrated non replaceable GPU so It's important that you buy one with the best GPU available.

Look for gaming laptops, those will have higher performance GPUs.

Personally, I would never buy a "gaming" laptop. Instead I would build a gaming desktop, something I have been doing for the past 30 or 40 years. By building yourself, you can get the performance you want/need at a price you can afford, although in recent years, the cost of a good high performance GPU has become very high.

 

[tbcass]

I am thinking of updating my laptop (normal home use and hobby Photoshop) and considering the Asus Zenbook S16 with an OLED touchscreen, AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, 32GB ram and AMD Radeon 890M iGPU with Windows 11.

Any suggestions/opinions? Integrated card as above versus an independent one for my type of use?

Appreciated. Thanks.

I don't know of any Laptops that don't have an integrated non replaceable GPU so It's important that you buy one with the best GPU available.

Tom, this a matter of terminology. Laptops may have integrated GPU as an integral part of MoBo, or dedicated GPU welded/soldered into MoBo. In both cases GPU is non-replaceable.

I am aware of that but I guess there's a technical difference but practically Laptop's don't have upgradable GPUs.

 

[tbcass]

Some of us would simply use a laptop plus a desktop PC.

That's my solution. I would never want a Laptop as my only PC.

 

[tbcass]

I don't know of any Laptops that don't have an integrated non replaceable GPU so It's important that you buy one with the best GPU available.

Look for gaming laptops, those will have higher performance GPUs.

Personally, I would never buy a "gaming" laptop. Instead I would build a gaming desktop, something I have been doing for the past 30 or 40 years. By building yourself, you can get the performance you want/need at a price you can afford, although in recent years, the cost of a good high performance GPU has become very high.

The smart thing is to buy a GPU one generation behind. Slight difference in performance but a big difference in price.

--
Tom

 

[Toermalijn]

I don't know of any Laptops that don't have an integrated non replaceable GPU so It's important that you buy one with the best GPU available.

Look for gaming laptops, those will have higher performance GPUs.

Personally, I would never buy a "gaming" laptop. Instead I would build a gaming desktop, something I have been doing for the past 30 or 40 years. By building yourself, you can get the performance you want/need at a price you can afford, although in recent years, the cost of a good high performance GPU has become very high.

The smart thing is to buy a GPU one generation behind. Slight difference in performance but a big difference in price.

Not this time though, AMD released new graphics cards with way better rdna 4.....But they are on the cheaper side of things then Nvidia. It's the thing new games need.

AI needs some new stuff too to work. Older cards can't use AI.